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RE: This has always bugged me... - 6/17/2008 10:53:02 PM   
Skully7000


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: Skully7000

. just because you don't understand it nor agree with it doesn't make it wrong.


Skully.. you seem to have a very knee-jerk reaction to this topic. After all the switch grand standing.. which was expected.. it remains to be addressed how said "playing domme" reflects on those who consider the ramification of their actions outside their own personal gratification.  There is another  person involved that may feel a bit deeper about their submission than the "domme" does.  Some people are .. others just play..know what I mean?  I think some people need a warning sign " I'm not a domme, I just play one in a dungeon, but I need to ask permission first".   Ah well.. what started as a slight rant has become the usual pissing contest from those who find offense in anything other than their own opinion.   Buh-bye.



While yes it was a kneejerk reaction...I certain wouldn't consider my response the start of a pissing contest. I felt I adressed your points in a civilized way.

The knee jerk reaction was 3fold:

1) I felt like you were making a very sexist point.

2) I live within the scenario you explained. so your comment was directly insulting me.

My girlfriend is an owned Slave. Other then her Master, and Me, She is Quite the dominant woman.( me and her are power Neutral to each other) She doesn't just Play the part of a Domme, When she is not directly serving her master she is every bit the Domme of anyone I have ever met. Then on top of that My girlfriend and I have a submissive kitten who serves us once a month at one of the events. Our Kitten has no problem submitting to my girlfriend. She respects that part of her and respects her as a domme even more. She is fully prepared to serve my girlfriend all night long. but also understands that there are times when she must wait to approach my girlfriend b/c she is with her master. Besides I've got plenty of things to keep the kitty busy while my girlfriend is with her master. hell our Kitten has even done some wonderful aftercare by just being her kitten self while my girlfriend was coming down from an intense scene.
and our Kitten is even learning how to top. I differentiate and say top..b/c she is far away from being a dominant person... she was just learning how to "play" from the top.

at the end of the night everyone goes home satisfied and content.

3)Being dragged down with the crap:
I would have agreed more with your point if you talked about assholes and posers,and people who's intentions are selfish and not healthy for the "victims"(in this case the male Sub who may eventually have a problem with the so called "domme"

Listen I dislike Terrotorial guys Too... as well as terrotorial woman. I dislike tops who act like the all high and mighty until they find the next piece of meet then the sub they just left is wondering why they are an emotional wreck and their "dom/me" is off getting ready for his/her next scene.  And anytime you are involved in any type of Poly realtionship its important to be honest to those you are getting involved with. anyone who doesn't disclose that information is being misleading and that is also wrong to do.


so with all that said:

I was still trying to have an intelligent conversation with you by adressing your points and debating them. I hardly qualify that as a pissing contest.

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RE: This has always bugged me... - 6/18/2008 7:12:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong
Several reasons:

... because it plays to the mind of  "a Domme is only a sub who hasn't found the right master". as well as it proves a lack of understanding what the Domme dynamic is.. you know - she's the one in control by her own volition? 



So you're also another sub who hasnt found her Master yet?
What a bullocks is this.

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each to thier own.


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RE: This has always bugged me... - 6/18/2008 7:53:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

if she agrees to that dynamic. why should it bother you?
Several reasons:

... because it plays to the mind of "a Domme is only a sub who hasn't found the right master". as well as it proves a lack of understanding what the Domme dynamic is.. you know - she's the one in control by her own volition?






How?

it only works for couples who have that dynamic. Why would it imply anything for any other dominant, single or not, not in such dynamic?



I think from reading Lotus Song's quote that there is the misinterpretation that the one being given to Dominate another is actually taking on the role of Domme.  In my situation my hubby/slave has a bit of a Top side when it comes to bondage and in order to allow him to be as well rounded and fulfilled as possible I allow him to Top my slave girl.  She considers herself the property of my leather family and loves the attentions she gets from him but in all things they both know the control rests with me for them both even during this playtime.  So maybe the female sub who is allowed to Top another male sub is doing it as a service Top and not to be his Domme.  This may not be the situation but its one possiblity.

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Ms Lemon

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RE: This has always bugged me... - 6/19/2008 7:04:06 PM   
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Well, the same goes for women who think that if a man EVER submitted, he cannot be a Dom. I never understood this as you usually, in all models that I can think of, gain expierence from working from the bottom to the top.

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RE: This has always bugged me... - 6/20/2008 10:14:56 AM   
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A lot of people who play with others or have sex with others need veto rights to make sure the primary relationship doesn't get threatened. Sometimes when someone is telling you all these wonderful things you aren't going to see that they actually want to break up your primary relationship even though they claim that they're fine just getting limited amounts of your time.

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