Mercnbeth -> RE: Limits/No Limits (11/16/2005 11:51:03 AM)
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There is no limits trust. We have it. It's not one sided, we give it to each other. beth isn't a "no limits" slave, she is MY "no limits" slave. Sure it's amusing to challenge a self identifying "no limits" sub by telling them you'd like them to appear in your next snuff film, but its not the point. "No limits" is a practical and obtainable goal for a WIIWD relationship. Like "safe-words", limits can be removed and replaced. How is that possible? Trust. The example of putting a loaded gun to her head is not germane to a functioning lifestyle no limits couple. Even those that go as far as to de-personalize, or de-humanize their relationship and define their slaves as property wouldn't consider that test appropriate. A slave is VALUABLE property. A slave is RARE and PRECIOUS property. People who have M/s as their relationship goal may search their entire lives for such a relationship. So the "test" to prove you achieved it is to destroy such a rare, precious, and valuable person/commodity? Would you strive all your life to own a Rembrandt and once you've got it in your house burn it, just because you can? The person who lists themselves as no-limits submissive may be misguided, but they at least may appreciate and have as their goal total trust, and total commitment. These are honorable and un-selfish goals. The person who lists slavery as a goal but has a laundry list of "wonts" or "cant's" is looking more for a sensation facilitator than a Master/Mistress. No harm in that. No less valid a goal. My experience in the search process and in other couples I've met indicates relationships fulfilling physical desires/needs are much more common. There is no need for more. No "only" or "one true way". I've been in relationships like that. They're fun, and sessions are no less intense, no less valid. But to discount or not believe that anyone can achieve that sense of "no-limits" trust in another is a rationalization of personal experience and NOT reality.
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