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pinksugarsub -> Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/19/2008 10:08:00 PM)
S/someone i love and see (yes, in real life) is showing signs i've seen before in other friends i've had who developed neuro illnesses. * An inanility to 'hear' what been said -- that is, to make any sense of the speaker's sentence. * Mental confusion -- quite pronounced. * An pronounced inablity to retain information in the short term. * An inability to comprehend a rather simple checking account question ('Where are the missing checks? Did yu write them? Have you cashed them?) Note: this P/person is a banker with 25 years' experience. * Some loss of physical coordination (finds driving much more challenging, etc.) * Outburts of anger, etc. i could go on, but those are the major points i've noticed. i want him to get a full neuro workup, but we cannot discuss his health. He has a history of heart disease, but he's never told me what exactly is wrong. i need any help Y/you can offer. Thank Y/you most sincerely, pinksugarsub

katie978 -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/19/2008 10:32:25 PM)
Those seem like quite serious symptoms. However, since he refuses to discuss his health with you in any fashion, I'm not entirely sure what kind of response from us you're expecting. If this is your dom, it's my understanding that the submissive has a responsibility to care for her dominant: if you let his condition worsen by not insisting he goes to a medical professional, well, that seems like you're shirking your duty. However, if he has any kind of relationship with you and won't discuss vital health information that may come up again and refuses to listen to your legitimate fears regarding his health, well...he seems like he's seriously shirking in his duty and clearly doesn't take your relationship seriously at all. i want him to get a full neuro workup, but we cannot discuss his health. He has a history of heart disease, but he's never told me what exactly is wrong.

daddysblondie -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/19/2008 11:12:13 PM)
yikes! he needs to get to a doctor asap! way too many possibilities for those signs to continue to go ignored.

proudsub -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 12:18:52 AM)
A lot of those are symptoms of alzheimers.

Rule -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 1:07:36 AM)
It seems to me that he has irreversible and severe brain damage. A lost cause. I am sorry for you. The progression of the disease perhaps may be slowed down, but what is the use?

MissMagnolia -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 1:14:53 AM)
There are a whole lot of things that those syptoms could represent. My father has Alzheimers and Parkinsons and your list describes symptoms he has, and is, experiencing. He needs to see a doctor. Perhaps he is one of those people who are afraid to find out that there is something wrong with them. If they don't go to the doctor, they don't get to hear something awful, they don't have to deal with it. This forum is absolutely useless in helping this man.

DelilahDeb -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 3:10:20 AM)
And some of them describe symptoms that I experienced at least briefly when I had a stroke seven years ago. Aphasia in is a really squirrelly effect!

doubleflash -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 5:07:16 AM)
I'm a paramedic with many years of experience. I'm not qualified or willing to offer medical advice on-line. But, the symptoms you list are quite serious. They could represent a number of conditions, including brain tumor, transient ischemic attack (mini-stroke), Altzheimers, or a number of other diseases, some potentially life-threatening. Depending on how far his disease has progressed, your friend may or may not be capable of dealing with his condition himself. He needs immediate medical attention. Fretting out here on-line isn't going to help him. How you decide to deal with that fact is up to you.

sirsholly -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 5:10:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule It seems to me that he has irreversible and severe brain damage. A lost cause. I am sorry for you. The progression of the disease perhaps may be slowed down, but what is the use? [8\|]

angelikaJ -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 6:32:48 AM)
Without his willingness to allow you to engage him in discussions re: his health there is very little that you can do about this...it could be a lot of things, including side effects from medications...but regardless of the cause, his driving impaired is a safety issue for everyone. You could use that as a trump card if you are willing to go there; likewise you could call his doctor and express your concern. Here is a question for you: If you opt to do nothing are you prepared to live with the consequences of that choice if in his mental confusion he does something dangerous and hurts someone?

wandersalone -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 9:55:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub i want him to get a full neuro workup, but we cannot discuss his health. He has a history of heart disease, but he's never told me what exactly is wrong. Cognitive impairment can also in a few cases be related to medications, tramadol (tramal) which is for pain is one that I have seen impact on quite a few people in this way. Has anything else changed in his life since you have been noticing the changes? When you say that "we cannot discuss his health" do you mean that you are forbidden from discussing his health, it is uncomfortable to talk about it or something else? Keep in mind that he may be terrified about these changes in himself and scared about seeing a doctor and receiving bad news....avoidance and denial -I know many a time I have used those. If you are able to discuss seeing a doctor ask if he would like you or someone else to go with him as a support person.

DesFIP -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 10:05:36 AM)
What you can do, since he is not willing to discuss his health with you, is to call his doctor. Now his doctor will tell you that he cannot discuss his patient's health unless the patient authorizes this. Your response is to say that you only want to tell the doctor what you have observed, not to gain information yourself. You then tell the doctor everything you've noticed, and follow it up with a letter confirming the disturbing signs you've seen. Beyond that, assuming this is a relative, can you get him to give you power of attorney, durable power of attorney, medical power of attorney etc? Tell him that a friend of yours is very upset because her mother had a stroke/was hit by a bus and because the mother didn't sign anything, no medical/financial decisions can be made, the power's been turned off, she's being evicted etc. If he won't do that, you could try appealing to a court for conservatorship. But find a specialist in elder law to guide you in any event. If this is not a relative, then contact his nearest relatives and inform them of these disturbing signs.

proudsub -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 11:12:36 AM)
Another thing you may want to do is keep a close eye on this person's financial decisions. When my in-laws both developed alzheimers they did some very stupid things with their money and were taken advantage of.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 11:29:34 AM)
All these could also be a symptoms of insulin imbalance or diabetes. Has he changed his diet/exercise recently? However what is your goal in disclosing this here? If a person walked through your door with an ax in his/her head would you require input from an on-line forum to act? So, if anyone answered; "Yes as a matter of fact, my 2nd cousin experienced the exact same symptoms and was dead in 10 hours." What would you do with that information? Speculation and/or getting totally unqualified opinions based upon selectively disclosed 'facts' serves him how? Assuming serving him, and not bringing attention to yourself is the goal in the first place.

RumpusParable -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/20/2008 12:20:42 PM)
Doctor for a screening, asap. Those symptoms can be from anything so simple to cure as a severe mincronutrient deficiency to a life threatening condition.

pinkieplum -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/22/2008 5:03:42 AM)
Thank Y/you for Y/your input. pinkieplum

pinkieplum -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/22/2008 5:09:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth All these could also be a symptoms of insulin imbalance or diabetes. Has he changed his diet/exercise recently? However what is your goal in disclosing this here? If a person walked through your door with an ax in his/her head would you require input from an on-line forum to act? So, if anyone answered; "Yes as a matter of fact, my 2nd cousin experienced the exact same symptoms and was dead in 10 hours." What would you do with that information? Speculation and/or getting totally unqualified opinions based upon selectively disclosed 'facts' serves him how? Assuming serving him, and not bringing attention to yourself is the goal in the first place. Yanno Merc, i don't always agree with what You post -- but to my knowledge at least, i have never been disrepectful to You here on the boards. It seems to me that lately, You have become more and more acrebic in posting when You have a different POV. Maybe i'm wrong, but that's my observation. pinkieplum

xxblushesxx -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/22/2008 5:36:28 AM)
I had almost all those same symptoms last night. I think it was the Bacardi though...[;)]

Mercnbeth -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/22/2008 6:17:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkieplum quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth All these could also be a symptoms of insulin imbalance or diabetes. Has he changed his diet/exercise recently? However what is your goal in disclosing this here? If a person walked through your door with an ax in his/her head would you require input from an on-line forum to act? So, if anyone answered; "Yes as a matter of fact, my 2nd cousin experienced the exact same symptoms and was dead in 10 hours." What would you do with that information? Speculation and/or getting totally unqualified opinions based upon selectively disclosed 'facts' serves him how? Assuming serving him, and not bringing attention to yourself is the goal in the first place. Yanno Merc, i don't always agree with what You post -- but to my knowledge at least, i have never been disrepectful to You here on the boards. It seems to me that lately, You have become more and more acrebic in posting when You have a different POV. Maybe i'm wrong, but that's my observation. pinkieplum pinkie, I neither seek or consider valuable internet "respect". However, if I've established or generated any, I hope it is because, no matter the source of the thread/post, my responses are pointed to the issue and my opinion of the issue as represented. The way I look at it in this situation - the potential danger to the subject of this post is of more importance than worrying about disrespecting you. I find it amazing you don't feel the same. This isn't a case of a differing POV. It is a matter of safety and, who knows, can be a matter of life and death. To seek advice on what to do in such a situation is either the product of ignorance, which I don't believe is the case, or the desire for attention and/or sympathy in 'coping'. The situation you describe is serious. It brings to mind one of the main reasons that 'safe' words are dangerous for both parties relying on them in lieu of common sense. In a scene if serious injury is incurred and observed and the 'top' continues on, safe words provide a great excuse; "Wow - I thought she was just a heavy bottom. I saw the bone sticking out, but since she didn't use our agreed upon safe word; I kept going." If this person dies, will your excuse be; "He didn't let me take him to a Doctor."? Will that, combined with "I even started a post on CM about him!"; elevate your guilt? Is that your goal? In that case - I guess you've done all you can. Pragmatically, with the background you claim, you should know better. If pointing that out to you is "disrespectful" maybe my assumptions regarding your intelligence is inaccurate. If so, please accept my apology.

SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Please Respond -- Symptoms of Neuro Illnesses (6/22/2008 6:19:10 AM)
if you cant discuss it with him, why would you come to discuss it with strangers?

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