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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

But.. it is a risk that I (as the sick fucking bitch that I am) am willing to take.....AT THIS TIME.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

~FR~

ok, there is NOTHING safe about breath play!!!  I don't care WHAT martial arts MASTER you school under..there is NOTHING SAFE ABOUT IT!!!!  Each time you restrict oxygen or blood to the brain you ARE killing brain cellls.

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ORIGINAL: poisonedprogress

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

~FR~

ok, there is NOTHING safe about breath play!!!  I don't care WHAT martial arts MASTER you school under..there is NOTHING SAFE ABOUT IT!!!!  Each time you restrict oxygen or blood to the brain you ARE killing brain cellls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3456078
"Without brain circulation, the fighter falls asleep within 15 seconds, but under a well-trained referee's care, neither choke technique is lethal, because brain cells do not begin to die until they have been deprived of oxygen for longer than five minutes."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/choking.html
"If your brain goes without oxygen for more than four minutes, you could have brain damage or die."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_Naked_Choke
"When applied properly unconsciousness occurs in about 10 seconds and recovery from the choke is just as quick. Since the technique only applies pressure on the arteries in the neck that take blood to the brain no permanent damage is done to the body." (resourced .pdf - http://www.cprc.org/tr/tr-2007-03E.pdf )

And there you have it...

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ORIGINAL: MisterBeast

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ORIGINAL: poisonedprogress

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

~FR~

ok, there is NOTHING safe about breath play!!!  I don't care WHAT martial arts MASTER you school under..there is NOTHING SAFE ABOUT IT!!!!  Each time you restrict oxygen or blood to the brain you ARE killing brain cellls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3456078
"Without brain circulation, the fighter falls asleep within 15 seconds, but under a well-trained referee's care, neither choke technique is lethal, because brain cells do not begin to die until they have been deprived of oxygen for longer than five minutes."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/choking.html
"If your brain goes without oxygen for more than four minutes, you could have brain damage or die."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_Naked_Choke
"When applied properly unconsciousness occurs in about 10 seconds and recovery from the choke is just as quick. Since the technique only applies pressure on the arteries in the neck that take blood to the brain no permanent damage is done to the body." (resourced .pdf - http://www.cprc.org/tr/tr-2007-03E.pdf )

And there you have it...

The inharent problem there is that they are talking about fighters, agressive people in situations where the survivial complexes in the brain are running full steam ahead. they are also talking about some one who is a standard weight, (which if you ask the FAA is 170 lbs) if your talking about a female who is 5'2 and 103 lbs, well that really changes that ball game and the way it is going to affect her.

It is like how I can take enough hydrocodone to kill some one who weighs 160 lbs, and it will hardly phase me. I think the best thing to do really is to use common sense.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
There is nothing about breath play done properly that violates SSC, so it looks like you are in fact selling something...

Facts are facts and you have spoken a deadly lie.  I will correct you so the readers of this thread don’t take your uneducated opinion as being anything other than your own ignorance.  I am one of the craziest sadistic fucks on these boards and I have cut people open and sutured them back up but I would never advise that breath play falls within SSC.

Your reference material was provided for you right here in this thread.  You did not read one damn article in the links I said were a must read.  If you had you wouldn't dare tout that deadly lie in this thread to noobs looking for advice about breath play.  If you had read The Medical Realities of Breath Control Play Article by Jay Wiseman, you wouldn’t preach SSC & breath play being safe because in that article the very Gods of BDSM that purvey SSC say:

"We have discussed how breath control might be done in a way that is not life-threatening, and come up blank."

"As a person with years of medical education and experience, I know of no way whatsoever that either suffocation or strangulation can be done in a way that does not intrinsically put the recipient at risk of cardiac arrest.”

Breath play to the SSC world is NOT SAFE.  So breath play is LIFE-THREATING and causes heart attacks according to the hero of the politically correct SSC culture.  So don’t you try to sell "nothing about breath play done properly that violates SSC" when in fact, the community leaders and educators that practice SSC do not agree with you.
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I'm not saying (or selling) that you shouldn't do breath play.  Hell, I shared with you how I do it.  What I am saying is don't do breath play uneducated or under false feelings of safety.  Know the real risk and proceed accordingly.  Know the risk and proceed into the world of edge play under real pretense.

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Here's another form or deviation of things to do.   The person has to be standing, fold their arms across thier chest like an Eypgtian mummy.  Take a deep break and hold it.    Another person behind them wraps their arms around them, right below where their elbows are bent at.  Picks them up off the floor like a bear hug.   The lifting person leans backwards slightly, the person being lifted must hold their breath.  Then all of sudden!   Poof!!!  They totatally pass out from it!!  Lights out!!!...  Ok, this is not all violent and such, with having your hard around somebody's throat and stuff.    This is an activitity, I have done and have had it done to me.

ONE PIECE OF ADVICE to anybody!   If you make somebody pass out!  When they start to come around again! They will be totally disoriented.   They will not even know who the fuck you are, or who they are for a brief period of time.  Actually, this part of the experience is an intense mindfuck itself.   It's something that you have to be prepared to deal with.   You have to consider the state of mind somebody coming back from being forced to pass out is in!   They might even react in a violent manner, call it protective instincts kicking in.   Don't assume for an instance that they are going to recongnize nor be all that trusting right away.  Not until the Oxygen kicks back into their brain to where they can think straight again and comprehend.

I have to mention this!  Sure it can be dangerous for a submissive.  However, it can dangerious to the top/Domme when the sub/bottom is coming back to life.   Not a good idea to have things such as knife or anything that could be used as weapon laying around.. and don't be suprised if the bottom/sub might be prone to take a swing at you, or is really freaked out at first.

People generally assume that when somebody is coming back around, that they are in complete control of themselves, and are mentally aware of WTF just happened.   It's not the case..

This is about the only things I have to add or expound upon in this thread, without repeating much of what other people have posted so far.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
Given your proudly displayed lack of self control, I for one wouldn't trust you to choke a chicken.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
Given your proudly displayed lack of self control, I for one wouldn't trust you to choke a chicken.

Jealousy is one of the most attractive traits in a Dom.  Right up there with always being right, no matter what.