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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
RS

Chill out RA was a typo - sorry. (yeah 2x or however many.)

Glad you liked the story - relax now and enjoy your sword.

M

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ORIGINAL: monywildcat
[snip] … And getting that first cup of coffee just right.  But that's just me. 

Did she not sense his presence in any way?

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Greetings RS,
You know I spent a long time writing a response and realized you aren't listening.  No one will make you even glimpse what you are doing.  You are digging your heels in and that's that. 

RS I have respected your threads, and your attitude toward women.  I have told you this privately, and now I tell you publicly.  What gives me pause is that this is not submission and you are saying that you think it is.  It is about foolishness.  Heck, with a man that has built trust with his slave, she will jump off the cliff for him.  She just will.  This guy isn't looking for a submissive woman.  Maybe he can't master a woman after the first shock, I don't know.  Maybe he can... but he sure isn't getting strong women who might actually be his equal.  He's not getting a woman who has seen his good and his bad and his strengths and his weaknesses and SUBMITS ANYWAY.  He's just getting a cheap thrill.

He sounds like a guy always trolling the waters for fresh meat.  And that makes me wonder.... about him.

The way you are responding to people who disagree with you is making me wonder about you... not in a bad way, but just seeing another side of you. 

I wish you peace,
sunshine

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To think us as low as you is disgusting to me and this thread has not only sorted out the sharks from the guppies but it has unearthed many worms as well.

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Sunshine: The way you are responding to people who disagree with you is making me wonder about you... not in a bad way, but just seeing another side of you.

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ORIGINAL: KMsAngel

RS:

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To think us as low as you is disgusting to me and this thread has not only sorted out the sharks from the guppies but it has unearthed many worms as well.

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Sunshine: The way you are responding to people who disagree with you is making me wonder about you... not in a bad way, but just seeing another side of you.

i don't understand why you take this so deeply personally. Whenever someone says something you don't agree with, you take it inside you and twist the knife and come out fighting. Why exactly are you allowed your say and other's aren't allowed that freedom?

I know you can't hear my tone or see my face or catch my inflections, so i'll say to you upfront, that it's intense curiosity, not malicious, not deriding. You've said harsh things to me before and i haven't been offended, so understand that like my profile says, i'm curious....

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
I further submit that only a pompous ass could presume to speculate why “the gang loves it when he gets a new girl”.  My gang happened to be one of the more active, philanthropic and heartfelt groups in all of Florida.  To think they would act like someone who projected their own low minded reactions into the neutrally told story is insulting and reflects rather badly on you.  I am deeply offended by such low minded people responding in this thread who spoke that way about a friend and my old highly respected BDSM society.  To think us as low as you is disgusting to me and this thread has not only sorted out the sharks from the guppies but it has unearthed many worms as well.

Sincerely,
Kalon Eric

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Quid pro quo – I ask you to explain. In my world to pronounce false ownership is a lie. What is it in your world? I have never understood this. If I were to call you a liar… it would be reiterating something obvious because you do not belong to KM. Like my discussions about submission with people that aren’t submissive, we never achieve an understanding.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss


Greetings RS -
I'm not stupid.  I'm not frail.  And frankly, I'm about as submissive as they come.  Not to mention smart.  But tie my pretty ass up over a sword?  THAT is stupid. I agree ... that level of trust is foolish in the beginning.  On both their parts.  Your friend sounds kind of immature.  This will bite him in the ass some day.  And the women?  Oh lord don't even get me started with that. 

well wishes,

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Greetings RS,
You know I spent a long time writing a response and realized you aren't listening.  No one will make you even glimpse what you are doing.  You are digging your heels in and that's that. 

RS I have respected your threads, and your attitude toward women.  I have told you this privately, and now I tell you publicly.  What gives me pause is that this is not submission and you are saying that you think it is.  It is about foolishness.  Heck, with a man that has built trust with his slave, she will jump off the cliff for him.  She just will.  This guy isn't looking for a submissive woman.  Maybe he can't master a woman after the first shock, I don't know.  Maybe he can... but he sure isn't getting strong women who might actually be his equal.  He's not getting a woman who has seen his good and his bad and his strengths and his weaknesses and SUBMITS ANYWAY.  He's just getting a cheap thrill.

He sounds like a guy always trolling the waters for fresh meat.  And that makes me wonder.... about him.

The way you are responding to people who disagree with you is making me wonder about you... not in a bad way, but just seeing another side of you. 

I wish you peace,
sunshine

Dear sunshine,
If I told you I saw a man eating a stinky turd, would you think he hated it because *you* think shit tastes bad?  Would *you* think I was laughing at the man eating a turd?  Are you going to get out banners that say “shit tastes bad” and try to abolish scat imposing your perceptions and will about it on those that like it? 

I'm not sure what the point is of this.  But generally I do say to each their own.  *shrugs
*ETA:  However, I would most likely mention the safety issues around this as well.  If you put something out there for people to comment on, don't be surprised when they remind you of safety issues or give their opinions. 

Yours and the other negative responses in this thread equate to arguing whether shit tastes good or not with a scat enthusiast.  Thank you all for sharing you esteem and fear based emotional problems through your responses with me but I am not your therapist.  I am glad my sword story has demonstrated so much to so many.  It truly turned into an awesome thread. 

I'm not sure where you get that I had a "fear based emotional problem".  I believe what I said was something along the lines of this level of trust in the beginning is foolish.  And I stand by that.  It is not fear-based.  It is wisdom.  I didn't ask you to be my therapist.  I'm not sure where you got that at all.

Unlike this reply, the OP was a neutrally told story.  I respectfully submit to you (and others) that unless you are a psychic, you are “just projecting your own reactions into this situation”. 

of course we are.  That's what people do.  Just like you did when you projected your belief that you think this is an awesome mind fuck story.  Other people said they don't agree.  This is a moot point.  however I did say that this will bite him in the ass some day.  And I think that is true.  Perhaps he doesn't, perhaps you don't, but he's playing with fire.
 
You have no business placing yourself in it if it isn’t your style. 

correct.  And that was my point.  I believe I said that. 

No one could possible presume to speculate what he did or didn’t get from his encounters and only a pompous ass would think a man with a wealthy soul would seek cheap thrills.  I am insulted by your low mindedness on his behalf.  I would like to slap your face with his personal copy of the Bushido code. 

So, I'm a pompous ass because I call a spade a spade and not a dirty shovel?  I consider this a cheap thrill - taking an inexperienced girl to edge play is not really what I would consider adult behavior.  It's taking advantage of naivete.  And you want to slap me because I think that?  Wow. 

Trying to explain a test of submission to someone with obvious control issues is impossible.  If you don’t see how submitting to something is submission… that should be a hint that you need counseling not a BDSM lifestyle or a power exchange relationship. 

You think I have control issues?  Well, sure I do.  When it comes to safety - emotional and phsyical with someone I don't know well, someone who hasn't proven himself to me, you bet I do.  Self preservation, Sir.  There is no shame in that.  I need neither counseling nor ridicule for that. 

I further submit that only a pompous ass could presume to speculate why “the gang loves it when he gets a new girl”.  My gang happened to be one of the more active, philanthropic and heartfelt groups in all of Florida.  To think they would act like someone who projected their own low minded reactions into the neutrally told story is insulting and reflects rather badly on you. 

I'm not sure who said all that... but that wasn't me.  If something I said in one of those two posts lead you to believe that I said that, I would appreciate that clarification.  I was doing my best to respond about the man in the story as you presented him as well as your responses to the other folks responding to your name calling.  I think you may have generalized what I have said and what others have said.  If that is the case, I would appreciate if you wouldn't do that.
 
I am deeply offended by such low minded people responding in this thread who spoke that way about a friend and my old highly respected BDSM society.  To think us as low as you is disgusting to me and this thread has not only sorted out the sharks from the guppies but it has unearthed many worms as well.

Your loyalty for your friend and your clan are admirable.  I respect that you feel this way.  Your way of interacting with some of the folks on here (myself included) has not been admirable.  You have always in the past been above name calling.  But then in the past I was an all around sweetie pie.  Perhaps times, they are a changing for us both?

Sincerely,
Kalon Eric

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But then in the past I was an all around sweetie pie. Perhaps times, they are a changing for us both?

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STILL an all around sweetie pie

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

ohhh angel, I forgot to change that.  thanks for the reminder.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
…et all.