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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/2/2006 11:48:41 AM   
zbabe888


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My first post here on collarme and I felt compelled to comment.  Humilitaion, Shame and Degredation are of COURSE  different things to each person on this earth.  I must acknowledge for myself that those concepts are a big part of why I was initially attracted to the scene and one of the main components of what I am trying to work out for myself as a sub.  With a strict upbringing there were MANY moments public and private where being called on the carpet for behavior, attitude, language, ideas, reactions, or emotions was a humiliating and shameful experience.  Trying to get it "right" and never quite getting there.  With my Dom he can scold, laugh, shake his head, anything that shows signs of disapointment.  I am personally humiliated by failure.  So any failure public or private brings me lower in my sense of shame.  The great culmination of the evening being when I have finally made him proud and in overcoming the shame and humilition I learn more about who I am.  So to verbally have to speak my failures alone humiliates me in ways many others can't imagine.  SO to turn this into a long term scene and using the other posts - being made an object, taped shut, forced to perform certain tasks (and set up to fail) asked to answer impossible questions, made to repeat verbally each failure as it passes and admit that you have no control, are a slut, are needy (feel free to insert personal quotes here).  Humilitaion like everything else is a ride and by combining different smaller ones it often can be as or more effective than a giant shame of public orgasm/urination.  I can only speak that if I am craving humiliation (which I detest but suffer through to prove myself to my Dom) then what I seek is to step through the hot ashes of all of my previous humiliations and come through the other side unscathed.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/2/2006 11:58:59 AM   
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Great post!  I think failure is humiliating for me as well.  Though he never sets me up for failure. But thinking on your post....what you suggest would definitely work on me.  Good food for thought.  Being made to face your failures makes you grow as well.  When done with care of course.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/2/2006 12:23:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zbabe888

My first post here on collarme and I felt compelled to comment.  Humilitaion, Shame and Degredation are of COURSE  different things to each person on this earth.  I must acknowledge for myself that those concepts are a big part of why I was initially attracted to the scene and one of the main components of what I am trying to work out for myself as a sub.  With a strict upbringing there were MANY moments public and private where being called on the carpet for behavior, attitude, language, ideas, reactions, or emotions was a humiliating and shameful experience.  Trying to get it "right" and never quite getting there.  With my Dom he can scold, laugh, shake his head, anything that shows signs of disapointment.  I am personally humiliated by failure.  So any failure public or private brings me lower in my sense of shame.  The great culmination of the evening being when I have finally made him proud and in overcoming the shame and humilition I learn more about who I am.  So to verbally have to speak my failures alone humiliates me in ways many others can't imagine.  SO to turn this into a long term scene and using the other posts - being made an object, taped shut, forced to perform certain tasks (and set up to fail) asked to answer impossible questions, made to repeat verbally each failure as it passes and admit that you have no control, are a slut, are needy (feel free to insert personal quotes here).  Humilitaion like everything else is a ride and by combining different smaller ones it often can be as or more effective than a giant shame of public orgasm/urination.  I can only speak that if I am craving humiliation (which I detest but suffer through to prove myself to my Dom) then what I seek is to step through the hot ashes of all of my previous humiliations and come through the other side unscathed.


was just curious....what do you mean when you state that he set you up for failure? Did he demand a task that he knew you would be reluctant to do? or did he tell you to do something which can't be done? just curious as this would be something interesting for me....

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/2/2006 5:40:50 PM   
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The "set up for failure" concept can be very playful; balancing something on your back while you are paddled - it is obviously going to be knocked off.  Or something more task oriented like serving a drink with your hands tied behind your back.  My Dom likes to see me struggle, to wrestle completing the task or withstanding judgement in silence.  Then of course are the "reluctant to do" which can range from displaying myself as the wanton slut I am to admitting that I fibbed or exagerated something.  You also asked about the task that can't be done.  Those are the best!  The culmination of a night of humiliation.  When he states clearly what he wants and you KNOW there is no way you can accomplish this - you have to give in to disappointing your Dom and no sub (esp. me) wants to ever admit defeat.  Of course then you get to make up for your shortcomings, being punished for them  - these to some would seem falsified, after all your Dom knew you would come up short, but to me it reinforces the bond of his power and my reliquishing.  At the end of the day feel protected and proud for having tried as hard as I did just for him. 

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/2/2006 6:08:12 PM   
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Kalif I have a lot of fun with setting the impossible task ... elabourate as asking them to source a rare or non existent book ... or as simple as asking them how many and what colour pegs I am holding...the fact they are blindfolded is neither here nor there ... or getting them to a point where they ask on my insistence to beg for me to do something that I say I want to do ...only to say a firm "no" when they finally breathlessly do ... or putting a bell about their ankle and telling them I don't want to hear it ringing, its unfortunate for them, I am about to send them up and down a ladder ... I like that these things come back to obedience and I marvel in how far, how incredibly hard they try/strive to please... I don't want to be questioned, I don't want to be second guessed ...I simply want them to do it without question ...

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/3/2006 2:29:42 AM   
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I hold regular Dom evenings in my home in the UK and have 3 regular subs/slaves that attend us. I am very much into objectification and all are trained in this. They serve us naked except for a hood and are used as furniture. A footstool and table when we play cards, lamp, candle holder etc. I have one sub that serves us as an ashtray, this is her sole purpose for the evening. She spends the time kneeling with a wooden board around her neck with ASHTRAY written on it, with an arrow pointing to her mouth, this adds to the humilliation. we all have an enjoyable time, to me this is real humilliation.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/16/2006 7:36:42 PM   
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What I have found that humiliates some sub females is anything that incites a public orgasm.


This is 100% true. When a sub (or anyone) has a real orgasm, she is totally exposed and out of control. I have had a remote control bullet in my vagina used to cause me to orgasm. This was at a club in Miami. There were 3 women, beside my domme and me, at the table at the time. The young 19-year-old waitress was there too.
My domme told them what she was going to do and they just watched and smiled. She brought me to a massive orgasm, my face was down on the table, I was totally out of control, and even blacked out for a little bit.
                         sue

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 11/16/2006 10:57:32 PM   
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The most humiliating thing i have to endure is shopping when it's for His pogey bait.  i am a fluffy woman, and i enjoy when i am shopping for the normal menu items, my cart is full of the good stuff, veggies, lean meats, chicken, fish, none of the processed frozen stuff they all love so much, but after about 3 weeks of this, they are screaming for junk.

Thin people don't realise this, but fat shoppers carts are eyeballed.  Comments made, knowing glances between each other.   When i have to go shopping with the list for Doritoes, AND tortilla chips with lime, 2 tubs of cottage cheese, the six pack of musketeer bars, twizzlers, Lucky Charms, AND Carnation instant breakfast,  saltines and strawberry cream cheese spread, then top it off with Capri Sun or koolaid pouches, and of all things... DIET Coke....   i could just absolutely die.  i want to carry a sign that says this is NOT for me. 

i have asked to get out of this, if they would go trap their own pogey bait, and Hubby says "Oh fuck em, you know what you eat, and I'll eat whatever the hell I want."  He certainly isn't going for "humiliation play"  He's just getting food.  What makes it humiliation is MY issues  and sensitivity to things i cannot block out, and my willingness to let others subject me to thier opinions.  Maybe this should go in the "fears" thread instead!


((HUGS mavis as tight as a cyber hug can get) -I feel the same as you do.. I hate checking out of a store with any sort of junk I even have trouble getting candy for my sisters at 7-11 when we are out together.. I always think well Im getting 3 candy bars Im a real big girl the cashier has to think Im gunna eat all of these!! I hate that... then again i also have lived through bulimia and anerexia (yes you can be very over waight and still be anerexic grrrr) Master is working on my issues with food and my inability to even eat anything in front of other people he says and these are his words exactly "One day we will get you to the point that you will be able to go to 7-11 buy yourself a candy bar and eat it without feeling guilty or ashamed"
Oh I love that man!!!

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 4/16/2007 7:05:10 PM   
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Recently I had the experience of recieving an enema for the first time. The physical discomfort combined with the humiliation of having someone else doing that to me, nearly reduced me to tears. When he was finally done I felt like I would never be able to look him in the eye again. Possibly the most humiliating part was knowing that I enjoyed the experience.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 4/16/2007 7:26:19 PM   
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Oh Asphyx I've long thought that I would die from just that, perhaps one day I'll actually get to find out!

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/21/2008 8:14:18 PM   
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missive.

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ORIGINAL: Florid

Hmmmmm....humiliation to me would being married to a vanilla and having sex and not being able to give my desire to be submissive.


That's more like hell for me.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/21/2008 8:16:39 PM   
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another old thread ressurected.....

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/21/2008 8:27:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asphyxmissive

Recently I had the experience of recieving an enema for the first time. The physical discomfort combined with the humiliation of having someone else doing that to me, nearly reduced me to tears. When he was finally done I felt like I would never be able to look him in the eye again. 


When Daddy and I were starting into our relationship, we were already friends and lovers, but not really into bdsm, I complained of having a tummy ache because of something I ate.  He said it might be for "other reasons" and suggested an enema.  I laughed  nervously and told Him that He had lost His mind.  I had never had one and didn't need one.  He went to the store while I was watching a movie at His place, and brought one back and sat it on the counter.  I ignored it and even tried to hide it, thinking He was trying to psyche me out.  Later, we were getting "cuddly" and the next thing I knew, He had me pinned down and did the deed.  I was mortified and was screaming like a wild thing.  I was so embarrassed and humiliated, especially when I had to run to the bathroom.  I was even more mortified when He popped the lock on the bathroom door and said, "How's it going in here?" and laughed.  I screamed and He shut the door, but continued to laugh at my plight.  I was so upset afterwards, took a long shower, and finally came out.  I could barely look in His direction, much less His face, and curled up in His bed and shut the door, alone.  He came in, held me, and forced me to look at Him.  I didn't know what to do or say.  He whispered to me that it was only the first of many things that I hated now, but would come to enjoy, in spite of myself.  (He was right.)

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/21/2008 9:08:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: asphyxmissive

Recently I had the experience of recieving an enema for the first time. The physical discomfort combined with the humiliation of having someone else doing that to me, nearly reduced me to tears. When he was finally done I felt like I would never be able to look him in the eye again. 


When Daddy and I were starting into our relationship, we were already friends and lovers, but not really into bdsm, I complained of having a tummy ache because of something I ate.  He said it might be for "other reasons" and suggested an enema.  I laughed  nervously and told Him that He had lost His mind.  I had never had one and didn't need one.  He went to the store while I was watching a movie at His place, and brought one back and sat it on the counter.  I ignored it and even tried to hide it, thinking He was trying to psyche me out.  Later, we were getting "cuddly" and the next thing I knew, He had me pinned down and did the deed.  I was mortified and was screaming like a wild thing.  I was so embarrassed and humiliated, especially when I had to run to the bathroom.  I was even more mortified when He popped the lock on the bathroom door and said, "How's it going in here?" and laughed.  I screamed and He shut the door, but continued to laugh at my plight.  I was so upset afterwards, took a long shower, and finally came out.  I could barely look in His direction, much less His face, and curled up in His bed and shut the door, alone.  He came in, held me, and forced me to look at Him.  I didn't know what to do or say.  He whispered to me that it was only the first of many things that I hated now, but would come to enjoy, in spite of myself.  (He was right.)


i did wrong and the Dom i played with punished me... by making me kneel in the bathtub while He proceeded to give me a 1 1/2 liter enema. He then set a timer and made my hold it for 5 minutes while He further humiliated me with talking about my plight and how bad i probably needed to use the toilet and stroking me to near orgasm. When i was finally allowed to get to the toilet (that was a WHOLE other world of pain and humiliation - standing without messing myself), He made me suck His cock while i evacuated my bowels. Ok, so bodily functions (only mine) squick me out more than anything... it took me a long time to be able to go - but, eventually, i HAD to and didn't have a choice. i can honestly say that is the most humiliating thing i can ever imagine... it also brought us closer than anything else that's gone on between us.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/24/2008 3:33:29 PM   
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Body Functions Eeek me out too, other people's as well as mine.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/24/2008 4:24:38 PM   
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Everyone poops,I find it funny that so many are squeamish about something they cannot avoid and live.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/25/2008 12:40:52 PM   
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Humiliation; great subject.   Ones humiliation could be someone eleses pleasure. I My mind anal is a from of it.  But as we all know some of you gals just luv it.  My question is, (and I was asked to do it) how do you treat someone that needs humilation and also needs to feel  less then human?   

PS: It was in a room that was hot with only a bed, duck tape some rope and not much else.

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/29/2008 4:30:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Riesa

Body Functions Eeek me out too, other people's as well as mine.


i'm totally ok with someone else's... just not mine - go figure and i'm a nurse no less... i guess it's not anymore idiotic than being afraid of the basement... *shrugs*

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/30/2008 7:20:07 AM   
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I hoped to get a few answers???

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RE: Female Humiliation - in the scene - 7/30/2008 8:10:35 AM   
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wow i posted to this thread 2 years ago....


anyway, to answer your question Materand9k, i think you want to find out what less than human means to your subject.

animal, object, insect?

does being a dirty whore appeal? a sloppy pig? or ignored? made in to a work of art? or a toilet? can you see how just picking one of these with out context would give her totally differnt experiances?

so yeah you need to find out what "less than human" means to her.


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