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subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 12:58:14 PM

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Out of interest can anyone stop themselves going into subspace,

is it something you can control????

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 2:22:55 PM

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Yes you can controle it by yourself.
As a Dom I also can take care for it that a sub do,nt go in subspace.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 2:52:02 PM

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From what ive experienced, initially there is a point where you have the choice to stop yourself ..but as you go deeper into it..i dont know if the choice becomes non existanct..but certainly your desire to even contemplate that choice to stop vanishes..all you want is more more more..there is no thought of stopping...

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 3:02:08 PM

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Sure you can control it......you always have control of your mind. O.K., well 90% of the time anyway. So, if you really want to go into, or, out of subspace, you must get into your own head.

However, don't be surprised if somewhere in that head of yours you hear "Houston, we have a problem!"

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 4:05:06 PM

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and this is exactly the struggle i have now...i'm fighting it.

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From what ive experienced, initially there is a point where you have the choice to stop yourself ..but as you go deeper into it..i dont know if the choice becomes non existanct..but certainly your desire to even contemplate that choice to stop vanishes..all you want is more more more..there is no thought of stopping...

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 5:44:32 PM

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i only have one question....why would you want to stop it? i relish that feeling...like i am floating on air.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 7:23:05 PM

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i am not sure i could get out of subspace if i wanted to. i know that there are things: thoughts, actions, ice cold wet blankets, that can snap me out of it, but usually those are very negative things, and cause a crash.

But for me, once i start floating, it is so very hard for me to focus. If i want to stay "around," and Master starts pushing those buttons, i have a very hard time remembering what i wanted to say- or if i can remember, getting it out in intelligible speech.

It is like like trying to climb an oiled pole. Even if i can get a hand hold, it is not at all a strong one. I guess it is possible to pull myself out of subspace, but i am not sure just how possible for myself. It would have to be a very strong need for me, physically or emotionally to stop it from happening.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/1/2005 7:28:08 PM

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Sub....below......space....above

another oxymoron....kinda like...Military intelligence.

just my .02

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 5:05:35 AM

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For me yes, it was controllable...But not controllable BY me. He would take me to edge, literally, only to bring me back...and then repeat the process numerous times.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 7:51:15 AM

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i only have one question....why would you want to stop it? i relish that feeling...like i am floating on air.

i find that i begin that floating way too fast, i have to now make my hair and head a complete hard limit, no touching, no go zone, everything just becomes so sensitive, when out at munches and events, or visiting friends, and you have to get home, it is not wise to be doing so whilst floating.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 8:12:15 AM

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I know for me if I start floating to fast and too hard I do tend to pass out cold after awhile, I have to let Master know when I feel that coming on and He will pop the bottom of my feet with the cane good and bring me back down.......I find I get into it a bit to much at times.........

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 9:57:56 AM

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You can control subspace. You start by deciding to give ir not giving total control of your emotions in the scene to the top or dominant. Some of the ill effects of not surrending is having a bad scene. I always have said to new subs that subspace can be wonderful catharsis or it can be a very cold dark place.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 2:26:05 PM

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Yes I can. I also go over what I am like in different stages of subspace with tops I play with so they don't become worried at certain reactions.

But it's good to be able to keep yourself out of subspace if you need to/if the to wants you to.

I CAN drag myself out of subspace, but it's not something I enjoy doing.

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 3:03:09 PM

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quote:

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You can control subspace. You start by deciding to give ir not giving total control of your emotions in the scene to the top or dominant. Some of the ill effects of not surrending is having a bad scene. I always have said to new subs that subspace can be wonderful catharsis or it can be a very cold dark place.

i totally agree with you, when you are with someone who stays with you it can be wonderful, but when you find yourself there when you havent that aftercare, not only a cold dark place, its very lonely too and the coming down tends to feel more like a crash than a landing

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/2/2005 3:38:36 PM

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i wouldn't want to

i love the feeling of loyalty and warmth i feel towards my dom when in sub space

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/3/2005 2:02:56 AM

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Subspace in Verse

The words of yesterday all gathered together
The lull of your voice still tingling my ears
Friendship, trust and empathy spirally around
Excitement and anticipation driving away the fears

Your touch so tender, warm and comforting
Snuggled close into you, feeling so safe
Your fingers in my hair, sinking further and further
In you my friend, a Master I had total faith

Sensations beginning to ripple through me
Building and rising, taking me higher
Soaring and playing in fluffy white clouds
Bright blue skies, floating like a glider

Your whispered words caring and encouraging
Your firm touch scintillating and arousing
Rippling waves awakening all my senses
Begging and crying that there be no stopping

The crescendo was building and drawing near
Drum rolls advancing across the mountains
The world was disappearing, fading fast
Entwining all the wonderful pleasures and pains

Climax hit as I reached for the twinkling stars
I gathered them to me, held them gently in my hand
They were soft, pulsating and bright
Glittering majestically so far above the land.

Floating higher and higher I was happy and contented
Into space the darkness soothing and comforting
Its blackness soft like velvet caressed my skin
His strong arms tight around me reassuring.

In space I drifted, no cares or woes, just bliss
Searching to feel the strength in your domination
Peace washing over me, hearing your dulcet tones
No speech between us, just wholeness in submission.

and then we drop!!!!!!!!

sitting alone, why oh why do we do it?????

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/3/2005 6:18:10 AM

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Yes, you can control it.

I will say though, for me, this becomes a problem. It runs into the whole: who am i to control anything? what right do i have? <shudders>
I am one of those people that wants to feel the blow of each toy that Thorns uses. I want to be in the here and now and scream out in pain......and the pure pleasure of it. I don't want to go into space, it ruins it for me. (then again, it's not about me)
There are times that He just wants me to relax and float. This takes much more on His part to get me to that point though.

As i said, controling it can be done.........it just fucks with my head though.

~smilezz~

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/3/2005 1:49:28 PM

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i am not sure i could get out of subspace if i wanted to. i know that there are things: thoughts, actions, ice cold wet blankets, that can snap me out of it, but usually those are very negative things, and cause a crash.

*shudder* ugg ive been snapped out of space ONCE, and never do i want to do that again

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It is like like trying to climb an oiled pole. Even if i can get a hand hold, it is not at all a strong one. I guess it is possible to pull myself out of subspace, but i am not sure just how possible for myself. It would have to be a very strong need for me, physically or emotionally to stop it from happening.

*nods* i have never been able(not that ive actually tried) to pull myself out of space, im not really sure why one would want to do so.. i also dont seem to be able to put myself into space either

-tedi

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/12/2005 12:47:45 AM

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what i wuld like to know is how do you get one in to subspace and how can you tel if she is going in to subspace

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RE: subspace can you control it - 12/12/2005 2:54:32 AM

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For me there is a period of time i can control it , then that stops and i go regardless of what is happening to me or around me.

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