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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/11/2006 9:31:02 AM

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>Liquid meals

They aren't inherently bad for you, but they do keep you from eating whole, natural foods that contain more nutrients and fiber and disease-fighting phytochemicals. They may be okay for people who are too sick to eat, but don't let them displace the real foods in your diet.<

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/11/2006 12:30:36 PM

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Better, I think, you should eat a good BREAKFAST ... then a sensible dinner. Not Lunch and dinner.

Anyway, in the short term, there is nothing wrong with it.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/11/2006 1:48:40 PM

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I already kind of came to the conclusion that liquid only is silly, nothing wrong with a liquid lunch persay but not liquid this that and the other.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/16/2006 11:00:34 AM

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I knew someone who only ate one meal a day and she could never lose any weight, then she went to a weightwatchers type meeting and it was suggested she wasn't eating enough to lose weight. She changed her eating habits and the weight feel off.

Good luck in your quest to a thinner, fitter you

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/16/2006 9:21:10 PM

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is there a good rec center in your area? they cost money to use, but you can pay per visit or buy a monthly pass or something like that--and aren't on a contract. i know the one in my area offers a lot of different classes too.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/16/2006 9:51:37 PM

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not really pet wolf we're rather rural there is a comunity center but it's not a good one. I used to take dance lessons there as a kid. It was just a building with a big cafeteria if you will and we danced there.

now if you ment gym there's tons of those but I'm not willing waste the money on a membership yes I said waste cause I know what w/ill happen. I'll sign up pay tons of money and no one will want to go and all that money would of been poured down the drain.

It's happend twice before.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/17/2006 3:29:53 AM

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iamMasters, I agree with your post, that NOT eating enough can actually keep the weight on. Good point. There really is truth to "eating" to lose.

I've been getting in shape and enjoying myself. I just bought the stripping DVD, and figured to combine a few interests into one activity. I peeked at it, but haven't tried it out yet. It was under $15, and so far, the first DVD of the series looks like it's very mild, and great for the beginner. I actually don't think it's enough of a work out for me, just from the peek I took so far. Something like this might be fun to try...for anyone.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/17/2006 8:02:33 AM

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i didn't mean "gym", i know they can be costly-just knew rec centers are sometimes more affordable and less "Contract-oriented"

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/17/2006 12:08:25 PM

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I have a membership to our local YMCA which allows me the ability to use the machines and swim. So normally, I bicycle for a while, go on the track a while, do a circuit on the machines and swim a dozen laps or so. I pay it monthly, so, if at any time, I lose interest I can also drop out without a penalty.

Do you, by any chance, have one of these?

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/17/2006 12:37:57 PM

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Not in the area we're in no. Elverta is the outskirts of SActo the un incorperated area, So there's not a lot of buisness's in my part of town. I belive their might be one in downtown, I've tried discussing joining a gym that was downtown the one time I was on a join a gym kick and nobody was willing to drive the trip downtown just for a gym, I don't drive so it's someone take you, you get the bus stand about for an hour before it gets there don't go directly where you need or get a cab. Sometimes you get lucky with the bus, however it'll take you about 35 mins not the 20 of a car.

All though there is that push for me to be active to do something that I might just get rides downtown if there's something valid to go for hehehe

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/17/2006 2:14:01 PM

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I was wondering about how you could pull off having a mostly liquid diet then eating two real meals a day.

You know like maybe all day drink nothing but like plain broth, or have apple cider allday long. and then at lunch a small lunch nothing again till dinner then a sensible dinner.

Aside from having to piss to much from all the liquid whatcha all think. And I know you'd have to be carefull to get all the nutrition in you need and stuff, that'd be considered.

See like cause one 8 ounce of hot coco water and powder only can keep me full for an hour or more depending and I thought I dunno it might be interesting to try out a mostly liquid or like fruit thing for a while as snacks and stff

You've picked a bad diet unless you want to gain wait. You're missing out on alot of protien which your body needs to maintain muscle. If you aren't maintaining your muscle, then you it all becomes fat. Hot coco is just sugar. As far as liquids go, drink Ice Water and Green Tea. The body cannot matabilize water untill it becomes a certain temperature. When you drink cold water, your body is forced to heat it up causing your body to burn energy. Green Tea is an antioxidant and gives your metabolisim a boost. Other drinks you can consider or the protein shakes such as Ultra Meal.

Your chicken broth is nothing but sodium. Your coco and cider just gives you sugar. There's not protein there, just a lot of fat cells and swelling ready to emerge.

Try having this as your meal plan.

Breakfast : A meal consisting of protein and whole grains along with a small portion of fat.

Bruch: A protein bar or shake.

Lunch: Meat, salad, red potato

Snack: 1/2 a bar or shake along with some almonds.

Dinner: Fish, whole grain, and an apple.

Keep your water and tea cold. Your sweeteners should be Xylotol and or Stevia Sweet Leaf. Both or all natural and will help you from gaining fat and becoming a diabetic.

As for suppliments, invest in Omega 3, 6, and 9 fatty acids that come from fish oil. Those are the good fats that help maintain muscle.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/19/2006 12:52:17 PM

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Thanks for the info FNF I don't eat fish however so dinner would have to be something else. Only sea food I eat is breaded fried or coconut dipped, Which I don't eat more than once a year or so, You have to go to specific restrants to get the kind of shrimp I like and redlobsters is expeeeeeeeensive lol.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/19/2006 1:04:20 PM

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Rule of thumb:

The less legs and animal has ... the better it is for you.

Fish, snake - no legs. Very lean. Very healthy.
Fowl, Oultry - two legs. Pretty good.
Deer, wild game - okay, four legs ... but runs around a lot. not so bad.\
Cow, pig. - okay, not so good.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/19/2006 2:07:34 PM

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I guess a centipede would do you in?

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 3:11:05 PM

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There is a great book that was written in the 70's by a Dr. Morehouse Total Fitness I'm not sure if it is still in print, but probably available used on Amazon or A. Libris.

(Morehouse, Lawrence E.; Gross, Leonard: Total Fitness New York, NY, U.S.A.: Simon & Schuster Trade, 1975. ISBN: 0-671-21925-1. Book Club (BCE/BOMC). Hard Cover. 8vo - over 7¾" - 9¾" tall. PHYSICAL FITNESS HEALTH GENERAL.

The basic idea is that if the calories you burn exceed the calories you eat, then you must lose weight.
The program he outlines is very modest and incorporates both diet and exercise.
No calorie counting-just simple changes in your daily diet (whatever that is)[I stopped drinking my evening coctail Monday through Friday and started walking the stairs instead of taking the elevator].
Very sensible and safe program
-don't expect RAPID weight loss, if you increase your activity by 200 calories per day and decrease your caloric intake by 200 calories per day, you should average one pound per week weight loss (healthy/permanent weight loss) but think about it: one pound a week is 52 pounds a year-thats a lot of weight!

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 6:46:21 PM

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Forgot the low carb crap lol. All in all it isn't a good idea. Alot of what people seem to replace carbs with are things which are high in fat. You might end up slim but you might also end up with a heart attack so my reccomendation is don't bother. Also people who exorcise and go with traditional diets keep the weight off better then low carb people.

Didn't Dr. Adkins himself keel over and die because of this?

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 7:04:27 PM

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As for popcorn I like popping it in a kettle with some salt and extra virgin olive oil. Extra virgin olive is relativly healthy as far as oil goes, tasty too

Be VERY VERY careful using oilve oil with high heat especially in metal pans. Olive oil breaks down with high heat and can actually be toxic. It also takes on any impurities from the metal and absorb chemicals from non-stick surfaces. Safflower or sunflower oil are better for heat and don't breakdown into bad components. I also recommend Garlic powder over salt.

The one thing that I haven't seen here is getting a workout buddy or a dog. Good and bad part of dogs is that they love you no matter what size your butt is. Really enjoy time with you. Walking is a bonus for both of you and if you try to drop out they don't criticize as long as you let them out for potty.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 10:51:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

Be VERY VERY careful using oilve oil with high heat especially in metal pans. Olive oil breaks down with high heat and can actually be toxic. It also takes on any impurities from the metal and absorb chemicals from non-stick surfaces.

Even with all the reading I've done, I've never heard this before. I cook with extra-virgin, organic olive oil almost daily. And here I thought I had been health & nutrition astute all along...

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 11:11:04 PM

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Didn't Dr. Adkins himself keel over and die because of this?

Yep, I believe when it was all said and done he passed away from abuse of his own diet.
Which is why the atkins diet fad has since died out.
Last study I read...you could do the atkins plan for I believe 2 years without doing significant damage to yourself. Yet, with all diets once you stop you gain it all back.
Studies seem to change by the day so not sure if that is the most recent study. Read it a couple of month's back.

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RE: Partially liquid diet? - 1/20/2006 11:14:48 PM

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Actually his wife says it wasn't his diet he had other health problems but I still say the atkins diet was a crock, And it was on the news about how this one previously healthy guy went on it then had a heart attack from clogged arteries.

Rose I did mention a walking buddy in another thread of mine, I have a dog, he does love me unconditionally you're right they will. I just don't have any motivation to get out and it's a brutal stupid cycle.

no motivation ='s no exorcise, which equals getting fat, which then equals tired of being fat but there's no motivation to something about it which leads to being sick of not having motivation which puts you right back at a

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