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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/9/2005 8:03:49 AM   
Tapestry


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What an odd idea to me, the notion that I could be other than I am.
Submission is not something I do for fun on saturday night
nor is it confined to the bedroom.
It is who I am
deep within my being
Whether I practice the lifestyle or not
I am who I am
and that is a submissive person
with a slave's heart.
And the day I realized that about myself
was the most freeing and liberating day of my life.
And it explained a lot of my previous life,
how I behaved and how I allowed others to treat me
It's strange what a lack of self-knowledge will allow us to do to ourselves,
or allow others to do to us.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/10/2005 5:35:16 AM   
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Hmmm. This is a tough one for me, as Master and i switch occasionally. I have experienced being the Dominant (for a while anyway, lol...He's never subbish for more than a couple hours.) I think, however that if this relationship should ever end(god forbid), i would revert to submissive only. I always enjoy our switch scenes when they happen, but it's not something that i need in order to feel fulfilled.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/10/2005 12:29:06 PM   
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quote:

What keeps You as Submissives/Slaves?
Or what Drives You?


My desire to be found pleasing to someone worthy.

quote:

Have You ever thought about what it would
be like to be Dominate?


Ive been put in a Top situation a few times, i felt really out of place and felt silly, i also felt a disgust for the bottom, sorry i put it that way, but its what i felt. Saying this, i pretty much worked out long ago i could never be in a Dominant position within relationship.


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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/10/2005 12:49:23 PM   
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i completely agree with Tapestry; i'll never forget the joy i felt, reading on castle realm for the first time. There was a name for how i felt! It was accepted and even desired by others! There were Men such as i had always wanted!

Even if i never find my One; i have at least found out the 'real me" and for that alone i am grateful.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/10/2005 3:51:54 PM   
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greetings A/all,
one agree with what has been said above..... W/we are what W/we are inside. this one feels that each person is born with either Dominant tendencies or with submissive tendencies built in, in the genes. That is the 'nature'.... then Life itself and the experiences of that, come into play and help shape our character also....sometimes life experiences can 'alter' those inner tendencies and even completely change them or appear to. Sometimes, when that happens, naturally submissive people become 'Sirs/Maams' due to some negative thing(s) that happens in their lives. If they are lucky, other things will happen to help them come to see what they really are inside.
It is even possible that this sort of circumstance happen the other way around too. one isnot sure on that.
buffy has always been, just what she is. she try one time to be a 'womans liberator' type of person. It didnot work very well. she give up on that pretty dam quick.
There are Ssome who buffy knows who say that they are 'bottom' only in a scene. buffy has seen this. It is confusing to her. What are they the rest of the time then? and Why?? dont they get confuse? Isnt it just easier to be one thing not two?
one is not sure on the mechanics of all this and for buffy the more importent question is maybe 'why do that at all', rather than 'how do they do that'.
It is much more comfortable to just 'be' rather than have to think all the time, 'oh my, what one will be today'. Well that is buffys two cent worth anyways.
respectfully
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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/10/2005 4:18:05 PM   
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What keeps me a slave? Off the top of my head I had the thought, “pleasing my Lord”. But that is a very shallow explanation that gives very little understanding of why I chose to be a slave. My Lord and I could have a different relationship structure (not M/s) and he would still find me pleasing. So to be pleasing is not what drives me to be a slave.

To understand what drives me, you first have to understand my definition of a slave. To me a slave is someone who is open to the complete control of the Master. What really drives me then is the aspect of control. It’s an issue of to control or to be controlled… The more that my Lord controls in my life the freer I feel. It isn’t a freedom from responsibility because I am responsible for many things in my life; the most paramount being my own well-being and the growth of my Lord’s property, i.e. me. It isn’t a freedom from making decisions either, because I make many decisions everyday. The more aspects of my life that my Lord controls the closer I get to fully actualizing my true self. It is the freedom to be me, a woman who is completely devoted to the will of another. There is great freedom in demonstrating your inner-self and not feeling apologetic for it. I find great strength in submitting to the will of my Lord and the more difficult it is for me to submit to his will the greater the feeling of strength.

I could not be the dominant person in an intimate relationship. I have no desire to have control of another.

Knight’s kyra

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/12/2005 2:52:25 PM   
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dear ant-o-
don't you know
the old saying:
i was born to be
like gay etc
a slave etc
ridgid; inflexible ;
no- switchable
slave
or PURE
dom?

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 12/12/2005 10:18:56 PM   
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Well being a submissive for me it just completes me for I have two sides. I have my dominate professional side, my military side, the one you really don't wanna fuck with.
Then there is the loving side of me, those I show to who I care about, the ones I will do anything for. So you see I'm both, I am a very agressive Man and a very caring submissive. In all just a well rounded person.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 2:12:18 AM   
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For me, subbmisison makes me whole. i serve Master, because i need to in a deep internal level, and belonging to Her, brings more reward than being "free" ever has.

In the deep core of my being, i desire to please and make people happy. i am fullfilled by this, i get incredible satisfaction from it.

The other side of this is that to delve into this fully requires one allow themselves to be very vulnerable. Master provides a shelter. A place where this desire to serve, obey and please can be nurtured safely. Where i can be safe and subbmissive at the same time.

It also leaves a safe place in my mind a well of strength to draw from. And to earn this all i need to do is serve and obey and please a Master who cherishes me for the submision i offer.

I beleive a better question is not why do i stay submissive, why do i train to become Masters slave. A better question is how could i choose to be anything else.

As for you other question if i ever desire to be Domme?

i have taken charge in emergencies, or when the people in charge were not getting done what i felt most needed. But this is not a happy place for me to be. i feel neither secure nore fullfilled.

i have tried being domme once or twice for people i was close to who REALLY wanted it from me, and was so uncomfortable and nervouse. It was not a pleasent experience.

Thats my two cents, your milage as always may vary.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 9:13:17 AM   
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quote:

There was a name for how i felt!


It was this exactly. My first D/s relationship was not begun nor stated as one initially. He was just this man I started dating and kept dating because he was... incredible, smarter than me, stronger, so many things. Slowly he assumed control over the aspects of our relationship, over me - it was heaven, it was coming home, this dynamic of control and authority. A few years later when it was over and a few years after that when i wanted to date again, have another relationship, it was research first because I knew that what he had introduced me to - the concept of Dominance and submission - I needed that. No more feeling like a freak in vanilla relationships, no more, "equal partners" party lines; the very concept of going back was unthinkable.

I was reading an essay by Dr. Tovah (i didn't discover castlerhelm until much later) - holy cow - i remember feeling my skin tingle; i remember being so relieved, so content - yes, there is a name for it - i am normal, there are others, it's not just me. it was like graduation, christmas, birthday all rolled into one big wonderous discovery.

i am a submissive woman - i stay a submissive woman for the same reason that i remain a woman - this is who i am. even in areas of my life where i maintain a dominant role - work, family - it is an area where my being the "dominant" authority serves a caretaking/service role. being a submissive woman is how i best relate in personal relationships, acceptance of me brings contentment and strength.

from my past, i know what it is like to be the dominant partner in a relationship - no thank you, never again, could not be paid enough to do it.

newflowers

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 10:26:24 AM   
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The new boy has great insight to this, I have told him to respond.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 10:29:39 AM   
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I had a bit of a "play" with my Master. I playfully put my cuffs on his wrists and clipped them above His head, sat atop of Him and said a few things that He would say and did a few light things with Him.

When I stopped He told me that that was the enlightening experience He had ever had and that no way could He ever be submissive like me and He really admired me for what I did for Him.

I found out that I really like being submissive and would never want to be Dominant.

I am submissive. That is what I am, who I am. Just like my skin is white and my hair is brown and my eyes are green. I am submissive.

love from tendergirl

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 11:09:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: knees2you

Submissives/Slaves,
What keeps You as Submissives/Slaves?
Or what Drives You?

For me it was that I always new from day one
that I was Submissive.
Didn't think I would ever be anything else.


The very first erotic connection i ever had was related to images of what my 4 or 5 year old mind perceived as an attractive, powerful Woman who had beguiled a group of ostensibly fearsome men into an inescapable condition of humiliating control. The Woman? Why, Circe of course, and the men, Ulysses' companions, turned into pigs and being herded into a pen by Her ... ah, if only the illustrator of that Golden Book had known (or did She? ;) the world that illustration would open to a young boy's mind.

But what exactly was the attraction? What so made me desire to be controlled by a Woman or Women, to submit to and to please in every conceivable way, with clear direction and Her deepest desires freely revealed, explicitly depicted and demanded of me, with sure discipline to follow should i fail to please, for otherwise how would i ever feel sure of how deep Her desire is? To feel free to enjoy control for it's own sake and to revel in my responses, savoring my torment? And why would i desire to know Her to be pleased if even by my suffering and very real humility?

Now (take a deep breath boys and girls) perhaps the question is almost rhetorical for those of your who feel your breath grow shallow and your attention drift to your own personal construct of that reality. Listen ... what do you really hear? Is it simply the truth of your most intimate need to connect? Do you need to know ... really know this is truth that She (or He) lets you see of Their desires, Their vulnerability (yes, that's what i said ... vulnerability) is indeed the very deepest truth, the most elemental desire and need She or He may have?

Do you want to touch that, to give in the most passionate, unselfish and fulfilling way you can, and see joy, feel gratefulness, be completed by that giving? Do you want to feel the trust implicit in accepting your offer, your willingness and yes, your pleas to be directed, taught, disciplined and ... used? To feel the depth of that bond grow in all ways as it can only grow with two who can reveal these truths to each other?

In other words, is this simply the most direct, believable and meaningful way in which you feel connected to another Human; the hardwired expressway (no matter how long it may take to actually find a worthy fellow traveler) to the core of bonding the way you need to feel it, breathe it, live it and believe it to be real?

It is for me.


quote:

Have You ever thought about what it would
be like to be Dominate?


So, having said all that, how can i also say ... Yes, absolutely. As a matter of fact, having discovered at a very early age that it was far easier for a male to attract submissives then find Dommes, i spent a lot of time doing just that; and it was the insight i had into submissive needs that allowed me to be particularly good at it (OK; so being a 6'3" guy with a killer voice didn't hurt) but really, it was empathy (and along the way, observation) that gave me the ability to give submissive Women what they needed. But there's the key element again: i was very, very eager to know that i was giving them exactly what they needed, because that's what i needed!

Until i was introduced to the concept of the service top, i thought of myself as a sort of "opportunistic/service switch" -- if finding the sort of Domme i needed was next to impossible, at least i could make some Women writhe with pleasure while (OK; i know this may stretch the boundaries of some people's ability to stay with me here) experiencing a kind of empath's voyeurism. i could literally feel myself identifying with what those submissives i was with were experiencing.

Needless to say, that wasn't enough. Eventually, one of two things (and sometimes both) would happen. My veiled submission would come rising to the surface at a moment when i suspected it might be taken advantage of (sometimes resulting in confusion and disappointment, sometimes ... lo and behold ... a Domme is born!) or, i'd simply loose momentum, which with those who were primarily sexual submissives, might be OK (they just needed it in bed) but with the more deeply rooted submissives, those for whom service in many more ways is important, there would be a distinct feeling of ... "what's wrong here"? And what was wrong was that i was taking a detour to the truth against oncoming traffic.

Needless to say, there comes a point in everyone's self identity process where one either learns what their basic nature is and goes with it, or continues to either resist that which is uncomfortable, or seek out that which is most expedient, neither of which will prove to be lasting. My truth, which is that i love to please, to know i'm truly being of service (and yes, truly know i'm appreciated for it) is what makes me not just submissive, but in some degree, desirous of a bond so strong that to say i am enslaved is to say i know love.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/16/2006 11:50:59 PM   
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quote:

What keeps You as Submissives/Slaves?
Or what Drives You?


Some of the neurons in my brain which attach the right half to the left half misfired in vitro, so I'm stuck like this for life. Besides, being a fish ::read Pisces:: means I have to stay wet to live, and I've found this is the easiest way to keep my moisture levels at peak working capacity and I learned early on from all those television butter commercials that you just can't fool Mother Nature, so why even try?

As to what drives me? The desire to be true to myself and my nature. Living any other way would be a lie.

I've not only thought about being a Dominant, I've spent quite a number of years honing and enjoy it as a recreational hobby. One that I haven't given up in any way either. Too much sadistic pleasure there for me to do that. It probably goes back to the Pisces thing.. that yin yang, pulling to stay in one place, gotta walk a tightrope just to stay balanced, no wonder I'm a bisexual thingy.

The appearance of confusion is only an illusion. :)

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/17/2006 3:48:41 AM   
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For me - I think a lot of it is the fact that I want to keep others happy and I have a very strong sense of responsibility. Well, the people that I care about anyway.

Plus, I've always had a thing for being bound - I think that is a TV influence coming through - so that I can't get away from the attention. I'm not a naturally affectionate person so I feel that by being in a position where the affection someone else is trying to give me cannot be escaped so easily is a good thing.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/17/2006 8:06:31 AM   
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She smiles, he is indeed to the core of his being--a submissive She hopes to enslave--

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/17/2006 8:52:34 PM   
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What drives me? The animal gratification of being used to fulfill anothers desire. Pleasing another on a deep level. Serving.

I have thought about topping. But never the Dom I am with. It would probably go better with a man for me, or a TG/CD, probably younger. But I don't think I could ever fall in love with a guy I topped in a BDSM way. I could do it for my own selfish pleasure in gratifying someone's need for a good flogging or spanking, giving some of what I have gotten. I might even enjoy doing the physicality of hair pulling and attitude - like with someone up on a cross. I haven't yet tried it but may sometime this year.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/17/2006 9:12:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: knees2you

What keeps You as Submissives/Slaves?
Or what Drives You?

Have You ever thought about what it would
be like to be Dominate?


What drives me is pleasing him. Seeing that he is happy and his wants and desires are met. It is all about him.

I have thought about what is would be like to be a Dominate and know I could not survive if I tried to be that way.

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RE: What Keeps You Submissive/Slave - 1/18/2006 4:54:28 PM   
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What keeps you sub/slave

erm i havent a clue.

What drives you

Making him happy. i just have this inane need for ppl to be happy. i absolutely LOVE doing things for them. It USED to get me walked all over and taken advantage of. And what really gives me happiness is knowing i did it. Knowing because of ME that happiness is there. i just LOVE it. Heck and it kind of spreads to everything in my life. And its SO nice to finally find some where that it can be appreciated and not taken advantage of. That and control is one of my kinks. Heh

(which granted it can, but for the most part....)

Have you ever thought about what it would be like to be Dominate?

Nope. Cos i have been dominating ppl for a Long time. Started with the parents when i ran the house at 15. Went over to the schools when i refused to bend for them and follow their rules. Over to men who would profess their dominance and i would quickly take control and have them do as i say when i said and how i said. (Heh, i had have a friend who SWEARS he's dominant, but he drives me where i want (and sits and waits), does what i want, buys me what i want, and lets me kick him out of his own bed when i want). i have found very few men that i do not end up dominanting in every day life. And to other females. i tend to just pick up this dominant personality when around women as well. Either that or i sit back and just chill. This is all of course in vanilla life (cos even though some men swear to be dominant and knowing the scene.. they couldnt possibly) though i did have one inscene dominantion of another female. And i liked it = )

but of course i only enjoy dominating women. That feels comfortable. With men, i dont particularly enjoy it. Infact when these so called Dominant men end up not dominant, i usually feel disgust for them. But granted i have not yet "tried" to Dominate a man inscene, so i've no clue about that.

And granted, running about like this, i never thought i'd actually find some one who could Dominate me. And yeah, i've wondered if i was submissive or Dominant. Sometimes still do, ha

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