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giveeverything -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 5:34:40 PM)

Is the US such a backwards country that in the 2008 we aren't ready for a person of color to be in the white house?  I'm frightened that this is the perception some people have.  I have to tell you, I have personally never been more ready for a shake up of the system.  And, for the record, Obama is the right person at the right time.  It is time for us all the get a grip... 2008 already!




Musicmystery -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 5:44:43 PM)

g,

It's a country where desperation leads people to throw ridiculous smokescreens to support positions for which they have no logical basis.

And then call it argument.

As long as Americans accept it, yup, that's where it lies.

Personally, I will be delighted to cast my vote on Nov. 4 for Obama. Not because he's black. Not because this could be historic. But because I'm convinced his ideas and policies and judgment and leadership are what America needs.

Yeah, others disagree---but I have to right to vote as I please, and I shall do so proudly.





giveeverything -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 5:49:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

g,

It's a country where desperation leads people to throw ridiculous smokescreens to support positions for which they have no logical basis.

And then call it argument.

As long as Americans accept it, yup, that's where it lies.

Personally, I will be delighted to cast my vote on Nov. 4 for Obama. Not because he's black. Not because this could be historic. But because I'm convinced his ideas and policies and judgment and leadership are what America needs.

Yeah, others disagree---but I have to right to vote as I please, and I shall do so proudly.


I completely agree.  When I hear people talk about how he's not the right person, I think of how I felt when I heard him speak about the economy, about race issues, etc.  How he gave us more than a sound bite.  He gave us paragraph length answers.  As Jon Stewart said - he spoke to us like we're adults.  I've never been more proud to vote in an election; never more proud to be a part of this eperiment we call America; never more proud to use semi-colons.  HA!




miss8understood -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 7:33:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
We may find out this weekend---Powell is appearing on national news media and has indicated he might, indeed, endorse Obama.


Colin Powell for Secretary of State :)




NumberSix -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 7:38:53 PM)

Nope, he did that shit...

Keep the niggers involved and what not but.....

Colin Powell for Secretary of Defense.

Ron




slaveluci -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 8:36:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
Sadly I believe there is a very good chance of Biden assuming the Presidency for this exact reason, when you have a country replete with what are quite frankly, ignorant nutters, who are granted firearms.

Ya know........I'm not one that spouts nationalism and have never been one to think America is perfect by any means.  I can admit there are many flaws that need to be addressed, for sure.  However, to see it assumed that the entire country is "replete" with "ignorant nutters" is, quite frankly, very offensive.  I'm most sure, E, that there are a few "ignorant nutters" (with or without firearms) in any country, including your own.  I wouldn't assume that your country's leader (white, black or green) would be assassinated simply because a few "nutters" exist within your boundaries.  I certainly wouldn't assume that about the US either[8|]...............luci




NumberSix -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 8:42:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
Sadly I believe there is a very good chance of Biden assuming the Presidency for this exact reason, when you have a country replete with what are quite frankly, ignorant nutters, who are granted firearms.

Ya know........I'm not one that spouts nationalism and have never been one to think America is perfect by any means.  I can admit there are many flaws that need to be addressed, for sure.  However, to see it assumed that the entire country is "replete" with "ignorant nutters" is, quite frankly, very offensive.  I'm most sure, E, that there are a few "ignorant nutters" (with or without firearms) in any country, including your own.  I wouldn't assume that your country's leader (white, black or green) would be assassinated simply because a few "nutters" exist within your boundaries.  I certainly wouldn't assume that about the US either[8|]...............luci


replete, you got one coming from me luci..............LOL; whore 

Ron




slaveluci -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 8:44:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix
replete, you got one coming from me luci..............LOL; whore 

[image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/wtf.gif[/image]     Decipher, please.

luci




LadyEllen -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 8:48:44 PM)

Luci, I said the country was replete with nutters rather than full of nutters - there is a distinction you know?

E




slaveluci -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 8:57:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
Luci, I said the country was replete with nutters rather than full of nutters - there is a distinction you know?

Hmmm, I don't think so.  According to Merriam-Webster, replete means "fully or abundantly provided or filled."  I really don't see much of a distinction between "full" and "abundantly filled."  But that's just me, maybe...........luci 




NumberSix -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 9:01:18 PM)

I am sure you could have tits, but never be replete with them until you popped by the house (FYI) 
Ron




slaveluci -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 9:06:02 PM)

You are one crazy mofo, Ron[8D].  Indeed............luci




Lordandmaster -> RE: We are all doomed (10/17/2008 9:07:46 PM)

I'm afraid I agree.  I'm positive there would be an assassination ATTEMPT on Obama; there's no way to know, of course, whether it would be successful.

In any case, I can't imagine why this would be a reason not to vote for him.  That's like saying don't run because you might trip.  And I'd still rather have Biden than either McCain or Palin.  I always used to think Biden was kind of a buffoon, but now I have more respect for him.

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ORIGINAL: zach7

I have a concern, I'm not a racist but I am a realist. I dont think this country is ready for a african american president. There has allready been one assination attempt on Obama and he's not even the president yet. When he becomes president...and he will be our next president, I am very scared that there might be another attempt. God forbid that he does get assinated..can you imagine the fallout from that?? I just dont think we're ready for it.




BelladonicHaze -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 3:46:21 AM)

I don't think race is a problem.. I would vote for somebody like for instance, Walter Williams in a heartbeat ... I just don't buy "tax the evil rich" and government healthcare stuff.  Taking from somebodyto give to another is simply immoral.




LaTigresse -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 3:55:47 AM)

Tell that to the CEO's and their political allies that have been doing it for years.




zach7 -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 3:58:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BelladonicHaze
Taking from somebodyto give to another is simply immoral.


Socialism




LadyEllen -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 4:03:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zach7

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ORIGINAL: BelladonicHaze
Taking from somebodyto give to another is simply immoral.


Socialism


Taking from somebody to give to another is simply what is going on right now; it would appear then that Mr Bush is a Socialist?

Celeste (BitaTruble) has already totally demolished the ridiculous line of argument from which the idea derives that Obama is some "awful" Socialist on another current thread on this board.

E




blacksword404 -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 4:05:00 AM)

I remember when Bush was over touring the middle east this year. I was praying his dumb ass din't get killed. Heaven help us if we would have been stuck with godfather cheney.




zach7 -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 4:06:25 AM)

I never said not to vote for him, I think Obama is an extremely smart person. As I said in an earlier post, I'm not voting in this election at all as I don't think either one can run this country right now.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster


In any case, I can't imagine why this would be a reason not to vote for him.





Raechard -> RE: We are all doomed (10/18/2008 4:13:42 AM)

You can't not vote for someone based on what the indirect and unforeseen consequences may be. If so you may as well have lived in Iraq under Saddam Hussein voting for him in order to stop him taking out his rejection on communities. Presidents have been killed before, could be again, could lead to civil unrest, maybe, perhaps. Really though you could just as easily argue there could be consequences if McCain were assassinated especially if the assassin was black or suspected to be black. So the point you make is mute and people have to be brave enough to stand up and seek approval without fear of the small minded opinions of some at some point. If people are not ready to see an ethnic minority lead, when exactly will they be and what will it take this enlightened society to accept such a man who already has all the qualities for amazing future potential? It takes a brave man to sign up to be president even braver if they are aware certain communities hate them to the point of wanting to kill them; shows conviction in my opinion. Never be in the position asking yourself what could have been if only this that or the other.




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