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collars - 8/4/2004 3:11:20 PM

expogirl

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I know there are different kinds of collars in the bdsm lifestyle. Can anyone tell me what they are.

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RE: collars - 8/4/2004 4:42:37 PM

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I know there are different kinds of collars in the bdsm lifestyle. Can anyone tell me what they are.

My favourite one is a chevron style collar that was made to fit my neck. It looks damned good with certain outfits.

Oh, did you mean different meanings for collars? You'd have to ask someone else about that. For me, they're just fashion accessories. *shrug*

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RE: collars - 8/4/2004 5:27:29 PM

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I considered buying an antique horse collar used for plowing fields for my first submissive, but figured it wouldnt match her hair color.

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RE: collars - 8/4/2004 5:52:57 PM

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It depends on which lifestyle you mean. In some lifestyle circles, collars mean only one thing; the wearer is someone's slave. In other communities you'll see submissives wearing a collar who would look as if you slapped them in the face with a turd if you referred to them as a slave. If they are really millitant in this regard, then the collar means that they have given their precious gift of submission to someone, and got a collar as a somewhat inadequate but customary token of the object of their benevolence's undying gratitude. The height of this sentiment is the "mutual collar" where the two people in the relationship collar each other. What that's supposed to mean I never have been able to figure out.

You have already heard that a collar can be a fashion statement. Similarly, it can be something to which you clip a leash or restraint when you want to keep control of someone who might otherwise wander off to do god knows what.

You will also see the "training collar". That means that someone gets to fuck/plug/fig/clamp/tie/chain/whip/cane/flog/and pincushion you first, before declaring you trained so that other folks can have a shot at you.

The "under consideration" collar means pretty much the same thing, except that you might not have agreed to training, and so there is an initial period of "consideration" where you are convinced of the wisdom of same.

The "protection collar" means just about the same thing as the last two, but the person that gave it to you is using the notion that you need protection as leverage to convince you to undergo said training while they hold all those other nasty mean people at bay on your behalf.

There you go. Justs about all you'll need to know about collars.

Take care of yourself

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PS: This is meant as a satire. Do not go off and bitch slap the guy that just offered you a protection collar. proudsub (as she often does, thank you proudsub), was kind enough to post some links for you below.

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RE: collars - 8/4/2004 6:06:33 PM

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Here are some previous thread about collars

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collars

question about collars

training collars

online collaring

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RE: collars - 8/4/2004 9:42:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leonidas

It depends on which lifestyle you mean. In some lifestyle circles, collars mean only one thing; the wearer is someone's slave. In other communities you'll see submissives wearing a collar who would look as if you slapped them in the face with a turd if you referred to them as a slave. If they are really millitant in this regard, then the collar means that they have given their precious gift of submission to someone, and got a collar as a somewhat inadequate but customary token of the object of their benevolence's undying gratitude. The height of this sentiment is the "mutual collar" where the two people in the relationship collar each other. What that's supposed to mean I never have been able to figure out.

You have already heard that a collar can be a fashion statement. Similarly, it can be something to which you clip a leash or restraint when you want to keep control of someone who might otherwise wander off to do god knows what.

You will also see the "training collar". That means that someone gets to fuck/plug/fig/clamp/tie/chain/whip/cane/flog/and pincushion you first, before declaring you trained so that other folks can have a shot at you.

The "under consideration" collar means pretty much the same thing, except that you might not have agreed to training, and so there is an initial period of "consideration" where you are convinced of the wisdom of same.

The "protection collar" means just about the same thing as the last two, but the person that gave it to you is using the notion that you need protection as leverage to convince you to undergo said training while they hold all those other nasty mean people at bay on your behalf.

There you go. Justs about all you'll need to know about collars.

Take care of yourself

Leonidas

PS: This is meant as a satire. Do not go off and bitch slap the guy that just offered you a protection collar. proudsub (as she often does, thank you proudsub), was kind enough to post some links for you below.

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RE: collars - 8/5/2004 6:56:20 AM

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Leonidas,

*LAUGH*

That is just what I needed to start my day. This was just too funny. And is, in some respects all too true I am afraid.

The whole pseudo-collar mania thing is just a bit much. But given how afraid we (as a society) are of commitment it really isn't all that surprising really.

I am quite surprised we haven’t come up with a pre-collar of submission collar; which is to be worn up until and during the first real life meeting. The meaning being something akin to “I think I might want to be interested in you if you’re dominant enough, but not TOO dominating, and if I can get past the fact that I really don’t do well with commitment.”

For some I guess all those “in between steps” give them some folks a nice warm and fuzzy “I haven’t gone to far” type measure of security. But I think that it shows that maybe they haven’t thought this through nearly as well as they ought. We (once again the big WE) love instant gratification without long-term commitment.

I tend to be a bit more black and white about things. A slave wears a collar. It is placed there by his/her Master/Mistress. The Master/Mistress doesn’t ask the slave’s permission to collar them – if they need to ask such then they probably shouldn’t be thinking of doing such a thing. No need to hurry, life is an interesting journey and there really is no need to get to the end of the race quite so quickly. When it is right to collar the slave it will be obvious to both – no words need be spoken. It happens as part of the natural course of the development of the bond between the Master/Mistress and the slave.

The same holds true when a particular relationship has run its course. It will be obvious if you just look.

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RE: collars - 8/5/2004 7:35:42 AM

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Don't forget about the velcro collars...
See enough of those...

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RE: collars - 8/5/2004 7:56:30 AM

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Don't forget about the velcro collars...
See enough of those...

A velcro collar came in the bondage kit hubby and i bought. He looked at it and said you don't need that you have a ring. So now i see my ring in a different light, and figure i will never get a collar from hubby. But my ring to me symbolizes a collar now. My first r/l dom did collar me with a studded dog collar and i wore it so proudly when we scened.

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RE: collars - 8/5/2004 9:12:07 AM

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S, M, L, XL.

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RE: collars - 8/15/2004 4:50:44 PM

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In my household we have 2 kinds. There is the traditional black leather model for when we're alone, among other kinky folks, or perhaps among strangers. Then there is the "I can't wear the black one to the office party" model, which is worn among coworkers, most relatives, etc. It's a heavy silver chain with a small brass padlock on it (yes, it says "Master" on it) which can be worn in the front or the back depending on how discreet one need be. Both mean the same thing, that my slave's a slave. But to some people they're just a novel fashion accessory.

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RE: collars - 8/15/2004 5:11:07 PM

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A colar, to me, is a symbol pure and simple. It doesn't matter if it is in the form of a bracelet, for wrist or ankle, around a neck or on a key chain. It is quite simply a show of being owned. It also gives the male (in my particular instance) a feeling of security and allows others to know they are taken when out and about D/s. I have my own design to attach to the collar to state who owns. As with vanilla wedding rings, it could be for life, for the moment or for a few years. I do not give a collar lightly, I also take into consideration what the male does for a living. An example is I wouldn't give a metal collar to a male who works frequently with electricity. As with all aspects of D/s this is what works for me. Sundew

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RE: collars - 8/16/2004 7:06:17 PM

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I have two newbie part time male subs, one is going to an event where there will be people I don't trust to play safely. He accepted a fire engine red training & protection collar from me with the understanding that should he wish to go against the simple rules that go with the collar, he will return it to me, or if he wants to end the D/s relationship he will return the collar to me. I have assured him there will be no repercussions.

I have emailed the Dom host of the event and asked that he & the co-host ensure that the collar is respected while my sub attends the event without me. He has agreed.

There will be no collar of consideration, no collar of intent & no final collar as this is a part-time relationship and he is one of two in my stable. I care for, but am not in love with the sub. This is time limited and we both know & accept that.

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RE: collars - 8/18/2004 11:05:27 PM

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check www.steel-door.com
they have a nice explanation for collar of consideration, and ...
Hope that helps.
M

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RE: collars - 8/19/2004 1:39:11 PM

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Dear god...haha. I think if I offered someone a velcro collar I would be bitchslapped.

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RE: collars - 8/19/2004 7:58:23 PM

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Dear god...haha. I think if I offered someone a velcro collar I would be bitchslapped.

The reference I had made of "The velcro collar" was honestly a jab at some people I have met...especially some people I have met online. The collar may also be known as a tissue collar. Theres no substance to it...comes off easily...no fuss no muss.

I have seen some people go through collars faster than I go through underwear...

Wait... I dont wear any... (Apologies if that visual is harmful in any way...)

They go through collars like Peggy Bundy goes through bon-bons.

I have some issues with collars that are offered online. I typically just keep my mouth shut..as everyone expresses their D/s differently...and perhaps I will discuss this in another thread sometime.

Hope that cleared up my position on the velcro collar comment...

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RE: collars - 8/19/2004 9:12:26 PM

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I never thought you were the type to practice the velcro collar ritual, just was making a general point. After all the shit I put into things to turn around and offer them a velcro collar in return would be disrespectful to say the least. And don't even get me started on virtual collaring...I just don't have the energy to expel enough obscenities at the moment.

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RE: collars - 8/19/2004 11:47:24 PM

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Gah...

I'm not taking the bait....

Grinz..

Take care,

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RE: collars - 9/1/2004 7:09:22 AM

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I found an amazing Sterling Silver band that my sub wears at all times, it is very discreet but keeps the effect.
There really is no need for a true collar, if your sub is collared, she knows it.

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RE: collars - 9/1/2004 8:30:14 AM

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I found an amazing Sterling Silver band that my sub wears at all times, it is very discreet but keeps the effect.
There really is no need for a true collar, if your sub is collared, she knows it.

Perhaps, in some cases, the real collar is not for the sub's benefit as much as for everyone else's...maybe they are proud of their status and want the world to know.

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