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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:32:25 AM

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What is it with men? Why do they like to take a handful of negative experiences and extend them to the entire female gender, when the only real commonality among all the bad experiences is the individual doing the generalizing?

Oh, wait, I'm making a generalization, and it's inaccurate, as demonstrated by sensible male responders above like Padraig and Tristan (who I've met in person and happens to be terrific <winks at Tristan>). As generalizations tend to be.

Foxer, you've gotten a lot of good advice on this thread. Seems from your 10:21 post (the one worthwhile one on this thread) that you might be a genuine person after all, so I hope you use it.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:33:26 AM

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and men's pesonals are any better--puhleez---could we get off the sexist bashing and get to some really meaty BDSM issues---

veronica? grab Me another martini please---and let's change channels---

can i get one of those too?.....lol

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:41:53 AM

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wise words Foxer, perhaps those should be included in your profile--as it takes away the cold arrogance and puts forth a passion---and I agree about self proclaimed virtues, we have all had those experiences---but the internet is what it is---and one has to screen very carefully---

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:45:50 AM

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Irish,

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that any woman who dared to turn you down or show no interest has a deep rooted problem.

Didn't say that at all. I asked what is up with the goofy, incoherent responses for one thing? Why even bother to reply if you have nothing constructive or positive to offer? Is it some deep psychological need to strike out or strike back? God forbid, I hope not.

Secondly, I stated the web is no different than a party. If you come across someone interesting you make a polite contact. Hello, saw your ad and think you're cute as a button. I see you live nearby and maybe we could get together to see if there's any interest. END OF MESSAGE.

You don't need detailed resumes, you don't need the "failed kindergarden" confessions, you don't need "my life story." It could be some women are living vicariously through random love missives on the web. Dunno... All you need is, Hello, I find you interesting...

The only thing that counts is the reality of one-on-one. What is it you girls say, chemistry...? How can you get chemistry from a computer screen? Some guy can influence you all he wants with epistles of his virtues but that's meaningless until you know him or, at least, meet him.

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:47:52 AM

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/shakes head, laughs and throws hands up in defeat

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:50:40 AM

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i don't know, i could research it for ya, but i am too busy answering emails from men who don't understand what a lesbian submissive is.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:51:53 AM

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Unless you've changed your profile in response to some of these posts, I think what you have up there is just fine. I know some feel the need to tell everything about themselves and spell out every criteria that comes to mind for what they are looking for, but I'm of the school that that stuff should come as one gets to know one another. I don't see anything wrong with being up front about your position in life (although it may have the potential of attracting someone who is more interested in that than in you).

That being said, why not just enjoy the journey...get out and meet people in your local scene, etc. One never knows what might develop.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:55:40 AM

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Ah, Foxer,

I spent some time reading your post and your profile. There is something about a 60-something year old man looking for a woman at least ten years younger than he is, that initially put me off. Then, the constant reminding about how financially secure (and wealthy) you are is a turn-off for me also. Finally, the fact that the only criteria you require is someone who looks good and acts well on your arm, would make me just hit "next".

Now, there may be some good looking gold diggers out there that will answer your notes or contact you because all they want is someone to take care of them. However, many of us who are in that age range, attractive, normal weight, cultured, and educated don't need someone else's money. We can take care of ourselves in that way.

So, what else do you have to offer? I generally don't look at men your age as I prefer men more in my own age range. Women live longer than men and tend to be healthier. We should really be looking for men at least 4 years younger than ourselves. Do I really want to be possibly changing someone's diapers in 10 years or do I want someone who will still be able to travel and live life fully with me?

If you don't want to come across as being conceited and self-centered, I'd suggest that changes to your profile include women who include those in your own age range, may not be model material and I suggest you include more information about your life BESIDES the money. In fact, I'd leave the whole money part out. You don't want to be wondering if a woman loves you for yourself or your money......well, maybe you don't care.

Padriag made some good suggestions too. Good luck!

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:02:24 AM

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"you girls"?? OMG how 1950's can one get?

veronica, another please--

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:02:33 AM

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Ah, Foxer,

I spent some time reading your post and your profile. There is something about a 60-something year old man looking for a woman at least ten years younger than he is, that initially put me off.

Just curious...would you have been put off, if it had been a 40 yr old looking for a 30 yr old? Doesn't seem like much of an age difference to me.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:15:53 AM

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Sunshine,

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I spent some time reading your post and your profile. There is something about a 60-something year old man looking for a woman at least ten years younger than he is, that initially put me off. Then, the constant reminding about how financially secure (and wealthy) you are is a turn-off for me also. Finally, the fact that the only criteria you require is someone who looks good and acts well on your arm, would make me just hit "next".

Now, there may be some good looking gold diggers out there that will answer your notes or contact you because all they want is someone to take care of them. However, many of us who are in that age range, attractive, normal weight, cultured, and educated don't need someone else's money. We can take care of ourselves in that way.

So, what else do you have to offer? I generally don't look at men your age as I prefer men more in my own age range. Women live longer than men and tend to be healthier. We should really be looking for men at least 4 years younger than ourselves. Do I really want to be possibly changing someone's diapers in 10 years or do I want someone who will still be able to travel and live life fully with me?

If you don't want to come across as being conceited and self-centered, I'd suggest that changes to your profile include women who include those in your own age range, may not be model material and I suggest you include more information about your life BESIDES the money. In fact, I'd leave the whole money part out. You don't want to be wondering if a woman loves you for yourself or your money......well, maybe you don't care.

1. My profile says nothing about money - your interpretation - which immediately makes me suspicious of your judgement. People of means don't dicuss money.

2. Don't get along with women my age, never have, and the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have which is usually apparent so I screen them out. Why they haven't taken care of themselves is an academic discussion that is meaningless. Best relationship I ever had was with someone 15 years younger than me. The next best was with someone 21 years older than me. The ones my age were always a disaster, I don't do topping from the bottom well.

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:21:56 AM

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my Master found me, he is w/in 45 min drive and life is good.course he found me in a yahoo bdsm group(altho he is on here) by a post and we started emailing and well now he is training me. i get offended by some of the mail i get from men that don't respect the fact they need to go thro my mentor or the fact i am spoken for.. and they ignore it(when its clearly stated on profile) and write anyway, expecting what i dont know nor do I care.if profile gets shut off, people post threads and complain about that too, so ya know wtf???? i do what i have to do, if people dont care for my attitude, i think thats their problem not mine.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:25:18 AM

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Secondly, I stated the web is no different than a party. If you come across someone interesting you make a polite contact. Hello, saw your ad and think you're cute as a button. I see you live nearby and maybe we could get together to see if there's any interest. END OF MESSAGE.

Yeah... how's that working for you? Not so good apparently or you'd get more responses. You asked for advice, you got it. You've gotten advice from women on how to attract women and rather than being enough of a gentleman to listen and say thank you, instead you're arguing with them. Do you just enjoy shooting yourself in the foot?
If you want to attract women, put something out there for them to be interested in. And here's another news flash... this isn't a party. Online nobody can see you, hear you or watch you from across the room, you don't have any friends pointing you out or putting in a good word for you. The only thing anyone has is what you share about yourself. That profile is your opportunity to make a first impression. You've had a whole lot of advice about how to make it a good first impression. Emailing some lady and saying, "Hello, saw your ad and think you're cute as a button. I see you live nearby and maybe we could get together to see if there's any interest," is not going to work. Most women on any site like this are getting 100 or more such emails a DAY. The only way you are going to get anyones attention is to make yourself stand out. You've got to present yourself as being more interesting, more of an outstanding human being than the other 100 or more guys trying to get her attention.

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You don't need detailed resumes, you don't need the "failed kindergarden" confessions, you don't need "my life story." It could be some women are living vicariously through random love missives on the web. Dunno... All you need is, Hello, I find you interesting...

The only thing that counts is the reality of one-on-one. What is it you girls say, chemistry...? How can you get chemistry from a computer screen? Some guy can influence you all he wants with epistles of his virtues but that's meaningless until you know him or, at least, meet him.

If you're such an expert on what one does and doesn't need to put in a profile, why ask for advice? Why complain that what you are doing isn't working for you? Look, you can't have it both ways. Either you ask for advice and listen to it from people honestly trying to give you a hand up... or be a stick in the mud, keep doing what you've been doing and stop grumbling about it not working.

No you don't need to share your life story... but some interesting highlights would be helpful. Nobody is saying write a brag sheet of you're finer qualities, and frankly be glad so many don't give a damn about how much money you have. Just open up a bit. Or you can go take a romantic walk down the beach with DelRey, cause my guess is he's not going to have any other offers. Its your choice, but its like going fishing... if the lures you are using aren't working, switch lures.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:29:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: Foxer55.

1. My profile says nothing about money - your interpretation - which immediately makes me suspicious of your judgement. People of means don't dicuss money.

2. Don't get along with women my age, never have, and the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have which is usually apparent so I screen them out. Why they haven't taken care of themselves is an academic discussion that is meaningless. Best relationship I ever had was with someone 15 years younger than me. The next best was with someone 21 years older than me. The ones my age were always a disaster, I don't do topping from the bottom well.

Foxer

Hmmm.....I agree, people of means should not discuss money, yet you do in your first post here. Why do you assume that women your age ALL top from the bottom? I've seen some great submissive women posting here in their 50s who have experience, education and beauty (Candystripper, for example). Yet, for whatever reason, you seem to be prejudiced against them (quote: the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have).

I'm glad that you think so highly of yourself, we all should have healthy self-esteem. However, somewhere in my head the lyrics of an old song keep playing when I see your responses. Can't remember who sang it though "You're so vain....You probably think this song is about you, don't you?"

'nuff said. I'm not wasting any more of my time on a man who thinks he's God's gift to women. Good luck with your quest, both in the vanilla and BDSM world....you're going to need it!

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:36:23 AM

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There are some men that smhow belive that men stay good looking and studs forever taking care of themself or no, no matter if they look like well lets not say, but that a woman over thirthy is junk. If a man is only after apperance, atleast he should be honest enough to say that he like young looking, inexperienced women that look so and so, and not try to blame the older women for his tastes. Ofcourse saying none over thirthy if you yourself is 50 will seriously limit your candidates.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:41:29 AM

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Sunshine,

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Hmmm.....I agree, people of means should not discuss money, yet you do in your first post here. Why do you assume that women your age ALL top from the bottom? I've seen some great submissive women posting here in their 50s who have experience, education and beauty (Candystripper, for example). Yet, for whatever reason, you seem to be prejudiced against them (quote: the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have).

Candystripper has always responded to me with some kind of antagonism although I made a note of her being a compelling woman at one point. The first post she made in this thread was antagonistic (take a look). Dunno...

But...I am what I am and Candy wants what she wants. Don't we all?

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:46:43 AM

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Foxer, contradictory to what your initial post says, your profile does sound a bit demanding to me. At least that was the impression I got. And you know what? Theres nothing wrong with that. But you cant say that she must be this, this, and this and then get mad when a woman replies with the same. Theres nothing wrong with standards... if its not working out for her, she will eventually change them. If I were you I would not be so direct. A lot of girls here get burnt out with the endless persuit of insta-doms(not saying you are one, just saying theyre out there). Just take it down a notch, get to know some people, you might find what your looking for and you might not, but youll probably meet some great people along the way.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:53:14 AM

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/shrug

I am done lol, not going to beat my head against this brick wall anymore...as much as I enjoy pain, headaches are a different story. Foxer has obviously put himself on a pedstal, and NO WOMAN alive can live up to the expectations that he has put forth. I am confused though as to why he even bothered to post here, obviously our advice and opinions are not worth following...or maybe we are all, as he stated about Miss Candy...too 'compelling'? Who knows.

Foxer, you live in your own little world...and from the looks of it, you have plenty of company there. You, Yourself, Your ego, and Your unrealistic demands. They should make for very interesting company :)

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 12:23:18 PM

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I read your profile and it was very nice. What I got from it though is you want Bri from "desperate houswives". And that's fine we all have different people we are attracted to. I love to get dressed up and go out but I just thought.. hmmm when I can I be lazy and lay around in my pj's with my hair a mess watching a movie and eating icecream. This is just my own personal opinion. You want someone very structured but it might help to add that you know they will be human too. ? hope thats help ?

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 12:33:49 PM

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You've been given a lot of good advice here... There is plenty of ways to say what you wish to, but with just a tweak of a phrase here or there it comes off sounding a little less..... holier then thou.... and a small word of hope.... just don't be one of 'those' that write women who are obviously taken asking to meet up and if they are interested in you.... lordy

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