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ResidentSadist -> RE: slave Competition (11/29/2008 5:55:12 PM)
I love pony competitions, barrel racing, cart racing, dressage etc. Do ponygirls count as slave stuff?

IronBear -> RE: slave Competition (11/29/2008 5:59:55 PM)
Admittedly I tend to by nature take things said litterally, I still fail to underconstumble the whoharra about a competition for sub/slaves. Way too many people try to over complicate everything even the simplest, by expending effort in trying to see if there is something negative they can lartch on and even take personally. Stone the bloody crows! What is so difficuly about having subs and/or slaves competing against each other or some form of set piece or time limit for enjoyment or as a training or adssessment excersise? It may even be enjoyable for those who enjoy competing. AT another level, if done well, sub/slaves competing agaimnst each other in a home is one method of having them doing their best. This works if the prize is something wanted or a promotion up the ladder with attendent extra perks. Histgorically, Hitler did this with his General Staff but ther down side is of course that we can see confusion at times and comnpetors may spend too much time looking over their shoulde or sliding a knife between the ribs of another competor. Mind you this is the normal situation on the corporate ladder where 50% of valuable time is spent in guarding and attempting to destroy others. Simply put if I have two or more slaves who are capable and I have a possition, lets say House Keeper, open, I will have those slaves who are sufficiently experienced and proven, to compete for a period to allow me to see who does the best job.

Icarys -> RE: slave Competition (11/29/2008 9:06:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys I'd like to ask this: Do the ones that say Nay have the same problem playing against their Master in home games? What about beating Him at a game? If he wants me to play cards with him, that's totally different then me playing against another sub and me being bad by losing. He has never told me to play to lose, he wants me to do my best. But if my best isn't good enough, then he gets disappointed. And that tears me to bits. And I don't play against him if he takes the competition seriously, I lose immediately and make it clear that since he'll be disappointed if he loses, I'm throwing the game. If it matters to him, then it isn't a game to me. I would be disappointed if my female felt she had to throw a game to me. I love to play games, especially with my females. It's a lighthearted time for me and I joke about beating them if I don't win and so on but they know I'm joking. I had a female about a year ago that was a genius(at least that's what my personal belief of her was).She use to beat the crap outta me in backgammon and word games but I loved it. It was fun and at the time, I think the fact that we were interacting like that, brought us closer. She had real grace when she won and when she lost. If you go into it with the mentality that it's going to be fun, that's what it will be.

DesFIP -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 9:14:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP If it matters to him, then it isn't a game to me. If you go into it with the mentality that it's going to be fun, that's what it will be. The difference between what you and I are saying is right here. When it isn't fun to him, when it is something serious, that's when I can't see it as a game. I have to assume that it didn't matter to you if you lost at backgammon, that it was unimportant. The importance he puts on something has a direct correlation to my emotions about it. So if he needed me to win to show me off or show himself off as the big bad dom, then I couldn't feel that it was just a game. And since he is competitive with others, not with me, there is no way that he could enter me into some kind of competition and still be proud of me if I came in dead last. I hope this has cleared it up for you.

simpleplan2 -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 9:19:39 AM)
I think Celeste said it right here. It depends upon both sub and dom. If it's lighthearted, then sure, everyone is going to have fun. If it really doesn't matter or if it's the way you "play" as a couple, then that's completely different from a dom who is SERIOUS about the competition. Personally, I don't have a competitive bone in my body. I'd suck (no pun intended) at any type of slave competition cuz I simply don't care if I win or not. I play for the sake of playing, not for the sake of winning. Anyone who was disappointed in me if I didn't win...well, I wouldn't be with that person. If I give it my best and I still lose...oh well. All I care about is doing my best.

Icarys -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 10:17:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP If it matters to him, then it isn't a game to me. If you go into it with the mentality that it's going to be fun, that's what it will be. The difference between what you and I are saying is right here. When it isn't fun to him, when it is something serious, that's when I can't see it as a game. I have to assume that it didn't matter to you if you lost at backgammon, that it was unimportant. The importance he puts on something has a direct correlation to my emotions about it. So if he needed me to win to show me off or show himself off as the big bad dom, then I couldn't feel that it was just a game. And since he is competitive with others, not with me, there is no way that he could enter me into some kind of competition and still be proud of me if I came in dead last. I hope this has cleared it up for you. I understood where you were coming from the first time. I think you missed my point. I think if anyone takes a game of cards seriously and it becomes "If it matters to him, then it isn't a game to me.". There are some issues there that I believe need to be resolved because someone has lost a healthy perspective The fact remains.....it is a game.This is for both sides..Him for "caring" so much about a competition that he looks down on you for losing and you for taking it to heart so much that you are affected adversely.

Icarys -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 10:19:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: simpleplan2 I think Celeste said it right here. It depends upon both sub and dom. If it's lighthearted, then sure, everyone is going to have fun. If it really doesn't matter or if it's the way you "play" as a couple, then that's completely different from a dom who is SERIOUS about the competition. Personally, I don't have a competitive bone in my body. I'd suck (no pun intended) at any type of slave competition cuz I simply don't care if I win or not. I play for the sake of playing, not for the sake of winning. Anyone who was disappointed in me if I didn't win...well, I wouldn't be with that person. If I give it my best and I still lose...oh well. All I care about is doing my best. That says healthy to me.

IronBear -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 2:16:42 PM)
I guess it all depends on the individual's definition of game. Why not ask some of the survivors of the Roman Gladitorial "games"? Oh wait. Their all dead now; there are still such "games" in SE Asia though. Part of Martial Arts and are blood sports. Fiught to first blood, which includre fighting with weapons. People are injured there, some seriously so and some do die. These are games. serious games played not for fun or personal entertainment, but for money. (Spectators get entertained and can make a fortune if the right person wins). There are of course Mixed Martial Arts - Cage Fighting, same principle with an audience baying for blood.... Alkl that needs to be laid out is the reason for any one slave competirion. I still prefer those which are benificial to the slave and fun to be in for all.

DesFIP -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 3:40:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys I think if anyone takes a game of cards seriously and it becomes "If it matters to him, then it isn't a game to me.". There are some issues there that I believe need to be resolved because someone has lost a healthy perspective The fact remains.....it is a game.This is for both sides..Him for "caring" so much about a competition that he looks down on you for losing and you for taking it to heart so much that you are affected adversely. Ever watched a poker tournament? That's a game of cards and it is taken quite seriously. Some people play golf competitively and others just hope to break 100 someday. Are you saying Tiger Woods needs to get perspective because he takes a game seriously? Whether a game of cards, bootblacking, or running 5K doesn't matter. Some people will take things more seriously than others. And I have to assume that if someone didn't care at all about it, then he wouldn't have any desire to enter the sub in a competition to begin with. As far as you deciding there's something wrong with me for taking his disappointment to heart, bs. There's nothing wrong with that. But there is something wrong in a supposed love based relationship if you don't care about how your actions make the other person feel.

Icarys -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 4:06:01 PM)
I'll point you to my above post. I'll add that none of you are tiger woods and I'd say the same thing to him if he got so involved that he needed therapy afterward to cope. You can't tell me there's something not wrong with feeling you have to lose a game because your Dominants ego just cant handle it. I'm confused why your defending something like that. I honestly think with all of your posts telling people that "If I had to cope with this or that from a Dominant then it would be over" that you know there's something odd about it. I'm an extremely competitive person but I still keep it in perspective or at least I try. It's still only a game.

tweedydaddy -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 4:11:08 PM)
I can tell you've never had to pull two fighting sub girls apart. I have, and have the scar to prove it. Are you nuts? The submissives I know are about as primal as you can get as it is. I have often had to intervene in LadyLove's case when man slaves start flexing, and her slaves are huge buggers, but the biggest man I know is nothing compared to two angry hormonal girls. I'd rather go into a cage of Tigresses, naked, armed only with a spare rib than willingly set subs against each other, I don't know, "walks off muttering"[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image]

IronBear -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 4:19:28 PM)
Buckets of iced water or a fire hose works wonders too.....

Icarys -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 4:40:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Buckets of iced water or a fire hose works wonders too..... It has a bit of entertainment value as well, I would imagine. lol

IronBear -> RE: slave Competition (11/30/2008 8:00:17 PM)
It's all in the game and how you play it...

PAwoods -> RE: slave Competition (12/1/2008 12:50:01 PM)
I rather enjoy seeing the conflicting emotions pass across a submissive's face, of trying to block the discomfort of a situation (in this case an olympics style competition), and also trying to please her Dominant. However, everything needs to be prefaced with safety as #1, even over satisfying a Dominant. If you don't have that overlying agreement, both the submissive and Dominant are in for a world of hurt (sometimes literally). As far as an Olympics style competition, I think a twist needs to be added here, where two submissives are put into a situation, and responsible for each others safety (and the Dominant(s) obviously have the complete control of their safety). For example, having one submissive with elastic clamps hanging from her chest to a pulley in the ceiling, with the other end attached to her submissive counter-part, who is hogtied and in a (shallow) tank of water. To keep her submissive counter-part breathing (again, with the Dominant's oversight), she would have to pull against her ropes, causing discomfort, and putting her others weight on her chest.

SailingBum -> RE: slave Competition (12/1/2008 10:59:35 PM)
I breazed thru a couple of posts. Most fo the posts got it wrong. Blow job contest and I'm the judge. Rackem stackem and packem over to me. I'll get back to you once I determine who the winner is. BadOne

IronBear -> RE: slave Competition (12/1/2008 11:20:45 PM)
Possibly due to my notable lack of humour, and that I take consensusal slavery extreemly seriously, I'll just stick to enjoying pitting slaves against each other in thre writing of new dances and performing them with a seperate section for those unable to dance but with choreography skills. OLf colurse O am always open to singing, song/saga poetry writing too as well as developing new serves within a given format and time constraint. Floral arrangements would please me too. All have value in the home without becommoing a pissing contect and do have valiue in slave training.

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