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Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 7:47:51 AM

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So many Mistresses talk of how they dont want a doormat for a sub. So it kind of got me thinking would it be more attractive if a sub was lippy cheeky and gave backchat. Some of the more elder Mistresses will be appalled at the temerity of such a suggestion. But the younger folk 18-40 do you like a sub who is a little brattty bolshy and inclined to answer you back from time to time. How do you find such behaviour. Do you accept it for what it is a sub just testing the waters or is it completely out of line for you for a sub to be bratty. Apologies to the over 45s but in general this genre of Mistress i find is more traditional wishes to be treated with great respect etc etc, more into protocol than the under 40s who tend to be more relaxed about the respect thing, thats my view anyway, i d be interested to hear others
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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 8:13:03 AM

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For every type of behavior, there is someone who will enjoy it. But I think it's safe to say that no matter what they enjoy, most will want you to be yourself until you have an established relationship in which they may ask you to modify your behavior.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 8:17:23 AM

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some are intimidated by me and some are irritated by me, and no matter what their age, the ones who i end up being with are the ones who wouldn't have me any other way than the way i am right now.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 8:24:26 AM

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In my opinion there is a time and place for everything. I'm well known for my cheek, it's natural, part of my personality. However i would also hope that i know where the line is drawn, well most of the time.
There will be people of all ages, sexes, orientations who will accept, like, love a bit / lot of cheek and there will be those that don't. I really don't think you can put an age range on this to be honest.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 8:25:36 AM

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I can only say that, for me, it wouldn't be acceptable. I've never had an interest in keeping brats or mouthy servants. Now that's not to say that I don't want my servants' opinions... on the contrary. However, I expect that those opinions will be expressed in a dignified manner. Of course, I'm also heavily interested in fetishes that include linguistic aptitude, and which are rules and protocol oriented... so it would be unlikely that that kind of chaotic behavior would be unsuited to the structure I prefer. (I make enough chaos all by myself).

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 9:53:01 AM

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I'm 53 and he loves it. When appropriate. It is not appropriate to be bratty first thing in the morning when he's a walking zombie until he's had tea, usually two cups. It's not appropriate to be bratty when he's stressed or feeling down. But when he's in a good mood, relaxed, then he is more receptive to playful, bratty behavior.

As far as verbal, word play? Here that's almost always a yes. But I'm from NYC and a dry, sarcastic, wit is SOP. If you can't handle that, don't get involved with a New Yorker.

Some people like tossing quips back and forth, some don't. Find someone compatible and have enough social skills to know when such behavior is and isn't appropriate. Just like it might be appropriate to act this way with a coworker on a coffee break, but not with the CEO during a review.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 10:02:35 AM

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Daddy hasn't complained yet about my opinionated, lippy, cheeky, smartass mouth.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 10:03:06 AM

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I see cheekiness as more playful and humor-based.

Brattiness isn't my cup of tea.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 10:44:53 AM

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when youre not the one holding the whip... did i win?

seriously did i win?

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 10:48:20 AM

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Ha...I just put a "get cheeky" sticker on the chamber wall yesterday. Of course it was referring to ass cheekiness not lip cheekiness.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 11:03:37 AM

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For us it is, under certain circumstances. Like this morning I was flipping the pancakes I was making for breakfast, and Sir stood and looked over my shoulder and asked what I was cooking. I gave a cheeky reply, since it was quite obvious what I was cooking. To which He threatened funishment. It works for us, because it is just part of my temperament, so we have fun with it. Being truly bratty doesn't fly though.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 11:23:02 AM

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Whether Dominant or in vanilla role---I can't abide a smartass.

And I can't abide a sub who wants to be a brat either (A) for attention or (B) for punishment--as a few subs can attest when you act that way--you get attention--you are hurled head long to the door---for good. That does not mean I don't want thoughts, ideas, opinions, but being a brat for the sake of it----sorry don't even bother or be prepared that the consequences you seek will NOT be what you get and you won't ever get the chance to do it again.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 11:39:03 AM

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Like i say i hope You reach the hundred. You must have had an extraordinary life not many reach 90 never mind 99.
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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 11:44:49 AM

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yeah and pretty amazing, I can still swing a flogger and kick a bad boy in the ass! LOL

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 12:01:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

So many Mistresses talk of how they dont want a doormat for a sub. So it kind of got me thinking would it be more attractive if a sub was lippy cheeky and gave backchat. Some of the more elder Mistresses will be appalled at the temerity of such a suggestion. But the younger folk 18-40 do you like a sub who is a little brattty bolshy and inclined to answer you back from time to time. How do you find such behaviour. Do you accept it for what it is a sub just testing the waters or is it completely out of line for you for a sub to be bratty. Apologies to the over 45s but in general this genre of Mistress i find is more traditional wishes to be treated with great respect etc etc, more into protocol than the under 40s who tend to be more relaxed about the respect thing, thats my view anyway, i d be interested to hear others

I've posted many times that I prefer a fun-loving sub with a bit of mischief about her - which would equate to *occasional* brattiness, yes. (gasp!!!) And usually when I post such words, some one-dimensional fool interprets that as meaning I'm tolerant of incorrible brats who top from the bottom blah... blah... freakin' blah.... lol

Fact is I have a robust and often dark sense of humour (NO tolerance of "practical" jokes but...), which means I prefer a partner who knows how to laugh and generally enjoy life, too. That can make for some interesting times within a power exchange dynamic and that fun-loving sub can get carried away with the mood of the moment. Which is quite ok until I deem enough is enough and "pull the reins" and then I expect her to respond as she's been taught.

The girl cannot get into trouble for being a little cheeky or mischievous (when it's just us) but she certainly can for not recognising my tone and demeanour (esp "the stare") etc when she's gone too far.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 12:43:56 PM

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I enjoy teasing and kidding around. Others may not.

But regarding your original question, I consider a doormat to be someone without a will who needs constant guidance. Just being cheeky isn't the only option to that - I would prefer someone capable and responsible.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 12:48:36 PM

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I'm a smartass. He rather likes it. It works for us. It's different for everyone.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 12:58:54 PM

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I guess it would depend on the nature/tone/time of said cheekiness. Having a sense of humor and being playful is one thing, being sarcastic and rude just for attention is another.

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 1:15:52 PM

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Cheek, in good humor, is fine with me. I like to laugh and have fun. I don't want a "yes ma'am" kind of man, except when I want "yes ma'am" and the man who knows the difference between the two. I'm not talking about a brat, but I am a sarcastic smart ass, and it seems that the only people who get it are the same.

< Message edited by yourMissTress -- 12/6/2008 1:17:35 PM >

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RE: Is cheekiness ever acceptable - 12/6/2008 1:17:22 PM

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I love a sassmonkey! I do NOT love a brat. Big difference between being teased, and being treated disrespectfully.

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