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Jealousy - 12/27/2005 2:12:55 AM   
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If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.
Do you feel you should have any say in the picking of a new sub or is that totally left up to the Dominant and hope he finds someone you will like also?

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 2:41:20 AM   
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Communicate! everything........

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 3:03:38 AM   
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I ask the question out of curiosity on how others would feel.
I have been in this situation-
In the begining of the relationship I was told I would be the only one, months later that changed- I was told there would be another added to our family.They ( Dom couple) picked - I had no say what so ever- could of been a deal breaker for me, but again it was a situation I had never experienced didnt know how I would feel or deal with it, so Yes, I did it to please them.
No, there was no jealousy between either of us subbys- we cared about each other very much and enjoyed our time together. There was jealousy but it came from another source.

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 3:16:34 AM   
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Been there. My Master is poly and I knew it from the start. His wife is an incredibly beautiful woman; I was just a chubby 18 y/o when I joined the "family". I was shy beyond words; but knew he was the one for me. He and his wife have been a wonderful catalyst in my growth as a confident woman. The problems arise when he meets someone new. I can't seem to get over my initial reaction; "I am going to lose my Master." I have a panic attack. Luckily, I have been able to control my mouth and not say anything. Lucky me. Some of these new ones have become great friends; the ones who do not "fit in" are quickly gone and I am now secure about my place in his life; I will not be replaced. Master does keep me informed. If he has doubts about a new one, he always consults his wife and me; but we both know if it is a tall redhead, his little head will do most of the decision making...lol. He is after all, a MAN.

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 4:10:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.


i would hope that any Dom worth their salt would know my jealousy and insecuritys going into such an arrangment. but there are so many variables, is our relationship 24/7 and this new one is to be also? Or is this simply an occasional extra for play? Either way it's gonna take some special handling.

Do you feel you should have any say in the picking of a new sub or is that totally left up to the Dominant and hope he finds someone you will like also?


Again ... it's all in the Variables...

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 5:01:38 AM   
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This is an area where communication is critical and where IMHO the good Dominants get separated from the not so good---often times Dominants forget that it is about the D/dance of the D/dynamic of the two--the Dominant and the submissive---whether there is one or many, that dynamic must be in place between and across the participants. I see too many dominnats getting carried away with the "power" and are clueless at the ramifications of bringing other subs in to the mix--it truly becomes all about their ego and not the elegant blending of L/lives.

And at the risk of getting flamed, IMHO there are very few ( there are some successful ones though) that can make it work--longterm-

it takes unique mental and emotional skills---

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 5:50:35 AM   
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Beyond the excellent communication advice I'll also say that part of dealing with jealousy is acknowledging it openly (don't expect your partner to realize you are jealous) and for each pairing to have special time they spend together where they reaffirm the value and uniqueness of that relationship.

This is what has worked very very well for me now for over a decade.

I also make sure all my partners have a good deal in common (but then its sort of reasonable I'd be attracted to people of similar personalities and interests, right?). Thus Tom and Fox both have physics degrees and enjoy talking about science, math, computers, and even Monty Python and spending time together as friends. We all then have a vested interest in maintaining jealous low and healthy relationships because we'd really risk losing a lot of things broke up.



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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 6:06:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling
If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.

Heck I'm in openly polyamorous relationships and *I* still deal with jealousy.
quote:


Do you feel you should have any say in the picking of a new sub or is that totally left up to the Dominant and hope he finds someone you will like also?

I do not, and do not desire, to retain ANY veto power over partners that my partners want in their/our lives. I do, however, retain rights to communicate my own feelings on the situation, and all "told ya so" rights.

However, in monogamous relationships making the transition to polyamorous relationships, unless the slave exists primarily as property to be used (sans romantic attachments) it would be foolhardly to make the transition without the slave having a lot of input and cooperation with the process.

There's a lot of foolhardy doms out there.

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 7:46:38 AM   
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quote:

could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.


this slave let go of jealousy in high school because it was SUCH an incredible downer and a drag and felt so incredibly juvenile...feeding and then acting on negative emotions is something that this slave learned to STOP before it ruined a lot of good things, but this slave has found that one must REALLY want it to be a non-issue in order to make it one.

that said, absolutely NOTHING or NOONE can stir up "jealousy" in this slave, especially when it comes to pleasing Master. His pleasure is paramount. If he wanted to include 5 "new" slaves and they all looked like some Playboy model AND could carry on an intelligent conversation---YAAAAY for Master if that's what HE wants!!!

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 7:57:43 AM   
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quote:

If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.


If that is what he wanted, then Yes, I would do so without jealousy. After all, I want him to be happy.

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 8:36:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.
Do you feel you should have any say in the picking of a new sub or is that totally left up to the Dominant and hope he finds someone you will like also?


Master is Poly; which I knew going into the relationship. So, jealousy would never be an issue for me. On the other side though, we did not live together; but it still would not have been an issue. As long as he was happy, that was all that mattered.


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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 9:41:25 AM   
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The jealousy issue.... always a good conversation.

This was something that me and Master talked about many times way before I was ever collared. No... I simply could not handle it, but Master was very ok with that cause according to him.... he flunked sharing anyway... lol.... just as everyone says... this is one of those things that needs discussed way before your ever collared you need to know these things going in.... both parties need to know. It's only fair to both.

This brings up another point though. Everyone says... as long as Master is happy what does it matter.... as long as Masters happy....

yeah .. thats really cool and all... and yes I want my Master happy to... and he is...

however

You ever seen a happy household where a sub (or either partner really) was miserable? If the submissive can not get over an issue or is wallowing in unhappiness it is going to affect the relationship.... a lot. I'm not suggesting that the sub is going to set out to cause problems or try to ruin anything. What I AM saying is that if one of the people in a relationship is unhappy or has an unresolved issue that festers and lingers for a long period of time, then eventually that relationship will crumble. Yes communication is extremely important. But as far as on a general basis, I think this is one area one should have discussed at great length way before the relationship gets too serious.

my humble OPINION
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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 9:56:49 AM   
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Been there,Done that.....The first poly relationship did not go well because the other girl had just as many issues at the time as me if not more so.In the recent future i'm hopeing to have anouther sister join our family perm. *HITS FYREREDSUB UPSIDE THE HEAD,HINT HINT LOL* but now after meeting many and Master and i's bond growing i am more open to the idea with poly.Master now relizes i need a sister slave whom is very strong willed and who emotionaly knows where i am and i know where she is. The one i hope to eventualy join is a older slave whom i connected with as a friend whom knows my most dirty little secrets (ones i normaly hide) and i know hers....we are sisters above all.So this time jelousy wont be a issue. If the first slave is comfortable in her position and the second in hers(meaning happy being the #2) then hell more the marrier..lol PARTY IN MASTERS PANTS AT MIDNIGHT LOL! :p

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:02:01 AM   
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smack the other end sis

ya know i love ya

if i leave now i can be there by midnight

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Been there,Done that.....The first poly relationship did not go well because the other girl had just as many issues at the time as me if not more so.In the recent future i'm hopeing to have anouther sister join our family perm. *HITS FYREREDSUB UPSIDE THE HEAD,HINT HINT LOL* but now after meeting many and Master and i's bond growing i am more open to the idea with poly.Master now relizes i need a sister slave whom is very strong willed and who emotionaly knows where i am and i know where she is. The one i hope to eventualy join is a older slave whom i connected with as a friend whom knows my most dirty little secrets (ones i normaly hide) and i know hers....we are sisters above all.So this time jelousy wont be a issue. If the first slave is comfortable in her position and the second in hers(meaning happy being the #2) then hell more the marrier..lol PARTY IN MASTERS PANTS AT MIDNIGHT LOL! :p



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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:02:23 AM   
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that said, absolutely NOTHING or NOONE can stir up "jealousy" in this slave, especially when it comes to pleasing Master. His pleasure is paramount. If he wanted to include 5 "new" slaves and they all looked like some Playboy model AND could carry on an intelligent conversation---YAAAAY for Master if that's what HE wants!!!

Hi beth,
Well said. I say ditto. If Master's happy I'm happy. Having him be happy in life is my goal.
Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:25:19 AM   
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If the first slave is comfortable in her position and the second in hers(meaning happy being the #2) then hell more the marrier


I need to ask, and this is just out of curiosity since I have never been in a poly relationship before.....

Having more than one, would it not make the second slave who was added feel less if they always knew that they were #2? I always thought ( just an assumption ) that most would go out of their way to make ALL feel as if they were #1.


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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:33:33 AM   
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Having more than one, would it not make the second slave who was added feel less if they always knew that they were #2? I always thought ( just an assumption ) that most would go out of their way to make ALL feel as if they were #1.

It depends on the relationship. In some relationships there is no distinction between "1" and "2" so it doesn't become an issue at all.

In some relationships where the is a distinction made between 1 and 2, you will have to find someone who IS fulfilled as being "2" whatever "2" happens to me. There are people out there who are excellent at this (however, they are very rare, specially considering the competition). And if the "original members" are doing something to make the new person feel "less" part of the relationship, then that is an issue to work through.

In poly the mindset is simple- we all want to be happy together, and it just so happens that we are happy with more than just one other person. No one wants to replace anything, no one wants to BE anyone else. If they do, then there is a problem of compatibility. My local partner does NOT want to usurp my relationship with the boyfriend.

And for me, I can feel "I love him and want him to be happy with this other person" AND feel "God I wish that were me right now" at the same time. Jealousy and understanding can co-exist. It doesn't mean anything is wrong or lacking, it's just how you are processing.

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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:42:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

If your Dominant said he wanted to bring another sub into your so far monogamous relationship, could you without any jealousy simply to please him or would you keep quiet about it.
Do you feel you should have any say in the picking of a new sub or is that totally left up to the Dominant and hope he finds someone you will like also?


To do do this without jealousy would be fine of course. To do so would seem to show trust and devotion, beautiful things. But to do this despite jealousy--because when feelings come they come unbidden after all--could be a very special showing of devotion.

I'm not suggesting that one of these should be valued above the other as, again, feelings come to whom they come, when they come. Furthermore each of us has our own capacities and shouldn't be shamed for them.

The word I'm thinking of is kind of inelegant and jargon-y but in either case come sort of processing is involved. In the prior case the submissive has already gone through a process which leaves her capable of acquiesence without jealousy. In a given person this might be a function of her training, her early upbringing or who-knows-what?

In the latter case the submissive would be called upon to process her feeling of jealousy as events played out--or anyway as the topic was broached and dealt with in whatever fashion. One way to process these feelings of jealousy would be to deny them. That sounds dumb. Another way might be to process them masochistically--whether or not she is natively masochistic.

Jealousy hurts, right? I mean I don't think it is a wacky thing to describe jealousy as an emotional pain. For many, maybe even most submissives there is a range of types of pain they will endure for their partner's pleasure. Is this type within your range? If not, would you be willing to try to stretch yourself so as to incorporate it?

I have no complaint with anyone who would rule this kind of thing out. Your limits are your business. Lots of people both on the top and the bottom rule out emotional S&M generally as too risky or unrewarding or just not right for them. Some may even rule it out as sinful or morally repugnant. On the other hand some of us find depth and meaning in engaging in this way as well as in more typical physical and psychological ways. It is risky. Yep. If your rule of thumb is never do anything risky this one is not for you. I like a woman who will take a risk with me, and I have to like her in the first place to be interested in taking risks with her.

If you imagine that all the risks in this sort of thing are for the submissive then you are either considering a rather oafish dominant or you aren't seeing the whole picture. I hope that only the self-sufficient sort of masochist would consider this sort of thing with an oafish partner anyway--but if that's your kink, roll with it.

There is no question that the successful navigation of territory like this can be thrilling for both parties and can contribute to both emotional growth in the individuals and in deepening of a relationship. I think this depends upon undertaking things with a certain kind of awareness and integrity.

But then there are other kinds of ways to get emotional growth and relationship deepening, too. Don't let anyone tell you that you are necessarily missing out on a irreplaceable opportunity if you opt out of this one. Let's face it this stuff could really blow up in your face.

I think it is possible to choose bravely and carefully. Do you agree?




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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:45:29 AM   
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In order to keep peace amongst the household...there would be no number one and number two, slave.

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.....There would be colors...pick one, your favorite.

Red today...violet tonight....let's all just love...no room to fight!
Damn, I should be Poly.....I"m Good!

Dr. Seuss...nods head and says......."And Here, I thought the Grinch was Greedy. Fastlane takes the Cake...and wants to eat it too."


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RE: Jealousy - 12/27/2005 10:51:31 AM   
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That I can understand. I was just having trouble processing Bella's comment
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If the first slave is comfortable in her position and the second in hers(meaning happy being the #2)


I guess if you live together 24/7, it would fall under a different light? Meaning that there would be no #1 or #2, etc ( and yes thats a question ). But if you do not actually live together, then being 1 or 2 really has no direct bearing on the relationship?

LMAO I read bella's post and it just confused me is all...because I would think that there would be alot of self-doubt that would arise from someone being #1 and someone being #2.

LOL just ignore me...rambling on is all...

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