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RE: Having a Real Slave - 12/30/2005 8:53:25 PM

Wolfie648

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And knowing all we know from history... why would anyone want to own someone that doesn't want to be there? [/quote]

Something for nothing, more for less, greed. Never heard of it.

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RE: Having a Real Slave - 12/30/2005 9:22:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648

And knowing all we know from history... why would anyone want to own someone that doesn't want to be there?

Something for nothing, more for less, greed. Never heard of it.

D (owner of j)

I would say that while many slaves were cheap in terms of some initial cash they cost a great deal in emotional and legal and psychological issues for the owner class. Even the slaves were are told seem "happy" also seem to be working hard to earn their freedom; the unhappy ones, probably the vast majority, appear to have retaliated in several fashions. Try to imagine what that is like as an owner -- you are not safe in your own home, you are not safe with the people who prepare your meals or run your bath or watch your children.

Sure you can try and beat down your slaves but you better keep that beating down ongoing cause the minute you stop, someone will try to push the limits. It is a nasty cycle even from the owner point of view but they felt the social benefits of seeming wealthy (or in rarer historical cases of having cheap labor) outweighed the continuous fear.

And slaves weren't that cheap -- even in Ancient Rome at the height of slavery, the elite tell us that it was common for a free family to own one slave, the dozens+ was only for the very rich or for businesses like the mines (also rich). Of course, how much would an elite man really know about the average Roman family? Given the average wages of that "average" class and the average prices of slaves (as historians have tried to determine) it still is several months of salary for one slave so still quite an investment.

I don't want to disuade folks from their fantasies which are not only lovely but also each individuals right. But slavery in history is one of my research fields and I guess you'd say I have a problem with a romantic view of it.

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RE: Having a Real Slave - 12/31/2005 8:27:13 AM

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i can't speak for anyone, but i got the impression that the op was speaking in terms of a fantasy....while it's not a turn on for me to own someone who does not want to be any where near me, i can totally understand how a sadist would get a kick out of it.

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RE: Having a Real Slave - 12/31/2005 2:33:59 PM

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Let us get serious, hey we have games and we play and we talk about outright obedience, from Master to Slave, but .......... we are just having fun. If you realy look at slavery it is no fun, only hopelessness, despair, kicking someone who is already down or disadvantaged. So keep perperspective you can only have a slave, if the slave gives u that gift. And if she doesnt it is abuse.

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RE: Having a Real Slave - 1/2/2006 4:48:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

I don't think we're allowed to post links here, but google real slavery and look at the top couple of entries.

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ORIGINAL: amayos

As for the thought of owning a real slave—yes, it is lovely, but needn't be a thing relegated to just fantasy. In fact there are many sentient creatures out there who willingly seek to become slaves in the truest sense of the word.

Indeed, LadyMorgynn, an excellent suggestion.

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RE: Having a Real Slave - 1/3/2006 9:01:01 PM

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This is my first post on here- I've long dreamed of being a sex slave to the RIGHT woman, and more often than not when I am pushing that fantasy to it's limit in mind, I cannot help but stray to the thought of the right woman taking me against my will- maybe even tricking me or blackmailing me into becoming her slave. When I fantasize, I partially serve her out of fear and the knowledge that I CANNOT break the agreement, and that her retribution will be fierce if I disobey... Or worse, try and flee her. However, since I'm fantasizing about it, it needs to be said that in reality of course I would be doing so willingly, right? In my eyes, the more I am a REAL slave, obligated with no options, the more intoxicating the fantasy. The other fantasy I find irresistable, which is along similar lines is one when I agree to a somewhat lengthy contract under the guise that even if I engage in it and find that I don't like it, I must fulfill my obligation for the contract's duration. You know, the whole "be careful what you wish for" thing. I love the thought of it, but I guess in reality it's just not practical. I guess it should be said that BDSM is something that has intrigued me my whole life, but I am a bit of a BDSM virgin. Quite vanilla, actually. I had a girlfriend for 6 years that was extremely dominant and into it, but we never TRULY indulged the fantasy beyond some very petty foot, anal and vaginal worship, and some light spanking. I kind of regret that, because now I'm dating someone who I really care about, but is not into the lifestyle at all. Oh well.

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