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Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 12/31/2005 6:51:14 PM

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This is a spin-off from the small cock humiliation thread.

I pondered that:

It would be interesting to know if there's a notably higher percentage of malesubs who perceive themselves as possessing a small cock, compared to the total malesub population at large... (no pun intended)

Also, it would be interesting to know what percentage of those seeking small cock humiliation are also interested in cuckoldry.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 12/31/2005 6:57:22 PM

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dear sumarine feve
happy newyear!
frankly my dear....
i dont think being a top or a bottom has anything to do with it
its built in that it is big
usually
i dont know tho....
you just asume its big to her cause she has nothing;you do.
if a bigger one comes a long ;the guy aint interested;
or if its humungeous
then everbodies into it
or isnt
no inbetween there...
but everyone assumes they have a hunk in their pants
never was a problem so far,
but i do know ususally
the biggest one wins in a cock fite
or the small one moves out

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 12/31/2005 7:04:00 PM

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dear sumarine feve
happy newyear!
frankly my dear....
i dont think being a top or a bottom has anything to do with it
its built in that it is big
usually
i dont know tho....
you just asume its big to her cause she has nothing;you do.
if a bigger one comes a long ;the guy aint interested;
or if its humungeous
then everbodies into it
or isnt
no inbetween there...
but everyone assumes they have a hunk in their pants
never was a problem so far,
but i do know ususally
the biggest one wins in a cock fite
or the small one moves out

lol... James, I do believe that you may have started your New year's Eve partying a little early this year...

In any event... Happy New Year to you! Party safely! ...

subfever

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 12/31/2005 10:46:52 PM

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So THAT'S why I'm a Dom!

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/1/2006 9:13:16 AM

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Cock size humiliation is very popular and can indeed be allied to the desire and drive to embrace the cuckold lifestyle although it is often assosiated with the craving for extreme verbal humiliation from one's Mistress. Either way I love this type of session.

Ms. Ophelia, I'd like to make sure I'm understanding you correctly. Did you mean to say that cock-size humiliation is more often associated with the craving for extreme verbal humiliation as opposed to the desire to embrace the cuckold lifestyle?

BTW... Happy 2nd anniversary to this forum! ...

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/1/2006 9:41:53 AM

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Trying to explain a different person's perception is nearly impossible. We can only explain our own.

I have had many male subs over the years express this small cock perception. Some actually had rather small cocks others were in the range from average to large.

My guess is that so many times in a male's life their cock size is often a representation of their being the best man. Maybe in their mind, being less than that is a form of surrendering. Maybe this expression of having a small cock is a way giving up one facet of male superiority that is typically conveyed in the male vs female stereotypes.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/1/2006 12:33:19 PM

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My guess is that so many times in a male's life their cock size is often a representation of their being the best man. Maybe in their mind, being less than that is a form of surrendering. Maybe this expression of having a small cock is a way giving up one facet of male superiority that is typically conveyed in the male vs female stereotypes

I like this explanation, and think it makes sense when men are average or large. I think that when men are actually very small, they grow up with the feeling/actual humiliation, so that the need, in my opinion, comes from a negative place.
I have met some decidedly aggressive/controlling underendowed men who've told me they were submissive because they were small, and automatically expect/accept that cuckoldry will be part of their lives. I wish more subs would speak on this, and tell us their reasons (if they know 'em) for wanting small size humiliation or cuckoldry. M

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/1/2006 10:25:24 PM

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My guess is that so many times in a male's life their cock size is often a representation of their being the best man. Maybe in their mind, being less than that is a form of surrendering. Maybe this expression of having a small cock is a way giving up one facet of male superiority that is typically conveyed in the male vs female stereotypes
I like this explanation, and think it makes sense when men are average or large. I think that when men are actually very small, they grow up with the feeling/actual humiliation, so that the need, in my opinion, comes from a negative place.
I have met some decidedly aggressive/controlling underendowed men who've told me they were submissive because they were small, and automatically expect/accept that cuckoldry will be part of their lives. I wish more subs would speak on this, and tell us their reasons (if they know 'em) for wanting small size humiliation or cuckoldry. M

Yes, it would be interesting to see some points of view from those who seek either or both of these two activities.

As for myself, I wouldn't seek out either of them. However, I understand some of the reasons why a Domme might pursue cuckoldry within a long-term F/m relationship. I can't say for sure, since I've never been in that situation; however, if a Domme orchestrated and handled cuckoldry well, I suspect that she might even train me to enjoy it. I also suspect that she might send me into a deeper state of submission at the same time. What I would probably fear the most about cuckoldry is the potential of losing her to her lover.

As far as small-cock humiliation is concerned, a Domme can always find or pretend to know a cock bigger than her malesub's cock. Besides, most men are subject to "the shrinkage factor" under certain conditions anyway. So, regardless of the size of her subbie's cock, she should be able to employ techniques to make small-cock humiliation effective, if this is something she enjoys.

I recall not too long ago when I had sex for the first time with a vanilla woman that I had known and secretly coveted for a very long time. The room we were in was very cold. In a flaccid state, my cock is already slightly under average in size. Well, due to my long-time lust for her (she and her freshly-divorced husband had been clients of mine for many years) I was feeling a little bit nervous about performing well enough to impress her.

Nerves combined with the definite chill in the air, my cock was well-effected by the shrinkage effect. Since I had been wearing a suit and wanted to carefully hang it up, she had already undressed and was waiting for me in bed under the blanket.

Well, before I joined her, she giggled a little bit. Even at my age, I can tell you that I felt quite humiliated by this. However, I did not find this humilation at all arousing. Quite to the contrary, it took me a little longer than usual to get it up and running. Fortunately, I'm a little larger than average when fully erect, so after my initial stall, things progressed well and this story had a happy ending.

What I find interesting about all this is how hung-up I can still be about cock-size. And I do wonder if I were ever faced with small-cock humiliation in a D/s setting with a Domme who enjoys this and orchestrates it well, if it could become a sexually arousing experience for me.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/1/2006 10:36:47 PM

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recall not too long ago when I had sex for the first time with a vanilla woman that I had known and secretly coveted for a very long time. The room we were in was very cold. In a flaccid state, my cock is already slightly under average in size. Well, due to my long-time lust for her (she and her freshly-divorced husband had been clients of mine for many years) I was feeling a little bit nervous about performing well enough to impress her

When was this exactly you had sex? Just kidding LOL.
Thanks for sharing the story. I have done some humiliation, but it's not really my thing, because so far I've found humiliation to be corosive for the soul (may have been he and I combination that was wrong), so I leave it alone. M

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/2/2006 4:22:56 AM

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i hope its okay to post my opinion on thi matter since i initiated the "small cock" discussion that inspired this trhewad...

My desire for small cock humiliation is extremely recent. Being recenly spearated, I delved into a shallow minded expermintation online and came across a woman on the net that wanted to see my cock. Who am I to disappoint, eh?

Well from the second I pulled it out to the point of an orgasm, she had made fun of it and called it everything in the book. I was arroused like I had never been before. Being on my webcam and seeing things like "baby dick", "pathetic excuse for a penis", "are you sure that's not a clit", etc, etc had made me extremely excited. Then of course she combined it with ordering me to slap my penis and punish myself for having such a "little dick" convinced me that I had been missing out by not accepting myself as submissive before. This became a turning point for me and I was able to read and learn more about the lifestyle.

As far as cuckoldry goes - the jury is still out for me. I have always wanted to be with One woman, but I also have been intrigued by cuckoldry. I had an ex g/f many years ago and her and I did a mmf threesome once and it was hot and exciting to watch her with another man. I have reservations about cuckoldry and would not want to push it on a Mistress that claimed me as Her own. However, I would still be willing to explore something like this.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/2/2006 11:25:21 AM

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because so far I've found humiliation to be corosive for the soul

Very interesting comment, and something that I haven't considered in the past. Do any of the other Ladies here feel the same way?

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/2/2006 3:24:46 PM

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I like this explanation, and think it makes sense when men are average or large. I think that when men are actually very small, they grow up with the feeling/actual humiliation, so that the need, in my opinion, comes from a negative place.
I have met some decidedly aggressive/controlling underendowed men who've told me they were submissive because they were small, and automatically expect/accept that cuckoldry will be part of their lives. I wish more subs would speak on this, and tell us their reasons (if they know 'em) for wanting small size humiliation or cuckoldry. M

i dont know about all this... i know my husband(who is average) feels he is inadequate/small somewhat because he is physically a smaller person and because i have a very high sex drive which is difficult for him to satisfy(never mind the fact that ive found very few who could) he is interested in the cuckold lifestyle and identifies as switch with a heavy sub side... unfortunately i have trouble with this because i identify as fairly well completely sub...

when we started to explore the bdsm world together(we both had previous experience seperately) it wasnt long before he started to explain about cuckoldry and how it works... i know when we sat down and he explained it, he said that the verbal humiliation and cuckoldry was based in several parts, 1 being that its very similar to my need for physical pain, only since his body is less sensitive and physical pain bothers him less, the mental violence is just as arousing for him and hits him harder... the cuckoldry was a reaffirmation of my devotion to him and love because i can sleep with others and do whatever else but i go home with him... plus it gives him a break from TRYING to satisfy me and being a voyuer he can watch or listen or hear about...

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/5/2006 11:47:14 AM

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I have had a sub or two that that has claimed to have a very small cock. IMHO believing that they are less than other men and believing that their cocks are smaller go hand in hand.

What I find amusing is that these same "little dicked" subbies, when presented with gates of hell or some other chastity device, suddenly beg and plead that they are "too big" for said device. I even had one boy pass out when I gently attempted to pass his balls thru the base ring of the gates of hell.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/5/2006 12:01:42 PM

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it wasnt long before he started to explain about cuckoldry and how it works... i know when we sat down and he explained it, he said that the verbal humiliation and cuckoldry was based in several parts, 1 being that its very similar to my need for physical pain, only since his body is less sensitive and physical pain bothers him less, the mental violence is just as arousing for him and hits him harder... the cuckoldry was a reaffirmation of my devotion to him and love because i can sleep with others and do whatever else but i go home with him... plus it gives him a break from TRYING to satisfy me and being a voyuer he can watch or listen or hear about...
tedi

Thanks for explaining. It sounds like you two have a great relationship. I wonder if you've ever felt emotional attachment (beyond the "he's decent enough for me to do him) to whomever you're using to cuckold your husband? M

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/5/2006 1:40:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: subfever

This is a spin-off from the small cock humiliation thread.

I pondered that:

It would be interesting to know if there's a notably higher percentage of malesubs who perceive themselves as possessing a small cock, compared to the total malesub population at large... (no pun intended)

Also, it would be interesting to know what percentage of those seeking small cock humiliation are also interested in cuckoldry.

Comments?

This is funny because the first thing Fox told me when he realized that he would be naked in front of me for the first time was that his "manhold was small".

Guess what? It isn't. It was just his preception. He's quite average in size for a white adult male. Which suits me perfectly.

Perhaps he told me because he'd thought it might be a surprise or important to me? Not really cause then I didn't think we were going to become sexually involved and not now cause size isn't as important as feeings and who is done with said body parts in my opinion.

I don't humilation at all with my slaves or submissives. I'm much more into positive feedback.

Cuckoldry? I'm poly, I'm really don't care and my partners are poly and they really don't care. Fox has fantasies of being forced to watch me with other or performing with others under my direction but I don't consider that cuckoldry.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/5/2006 1:43:31 PM

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Cuckoldry? I'm poly, I'm really don't care and my partners are poly and they really don't care. Fox has fantasies of being forced to watch me with other or performing with others under my direction but I don't consider that cuckoldry.

My local partner is very much like that as well (and my boyfriend is getting his PhD in physics...weird eh?)

On the flip side, many female submissives want male doms who are physically larger and taller than they are...and prefer larger cocks. This seems like a natural parallel to that.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/5/2006 7:13:45 PM

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Cuckoldry? I'm poly, I'm really don't care and my partners are poly and they really don't care. Fox has fantasies of being forced to watch me with other or performing with others under my direction but I don't consider that cuckoldry.

My local partner is very much like that as well (and my boyfriend is getting his PhD in physics...weird eh?)

On the flip side, many female submissives want male doms who are physically larger and taller than they are...and prefer larger cocks. This seems like a natural parallel to that.

I know that Fox would love it if I were taller than him but with me at 5ft 6 inches and him at 5ft 11 inches, the best we can do is have him kneel or have me stand on a step in the house.

I like having a stronger and taller slave though -- "put that box up there and go get the rest of the groceries" sort of thing. I've had slaves my same sex and basically height and even one man who was about 4 inches shorter than me. But I get a real rush from watching a nice strong, tall man do work for me.....

I mean, isn't that why they're bigger in general? To do the work or to carry me wherever I want to go? (said partly tongue-in-cheek)

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/23/2006 11:57:23 PM

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i mite be abl to shed some light on the why it's importent to a man about the siaze of his member. it roughly breaks down to a metalestate the biger it is the more...mascalint he is(sorry about the spelling) and there for the better abl to plaese a women and the more importent his staition is in life....its mostly a instenct aquiurd frim the vinillia i'm gussing

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/24/2006 2:11:52 PM

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I have noticed that men with smaller "packages" tend to either be more mild mannered and meek or to have a big chip on their shoulder and a need to over-compensate
by being aggressive and in your face. This is also known as "short man's syndrome"
in the mainstream society.

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RE: Small Cocks/Malesub Population/Cuckoldry - 1/24/2006 3:33:01 PM

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I have noticed that men with smaller "packages" tend to either be more mild mannered and meek or to have a big chip on their shoulder and a need to over-compensate
by being aggressive and in your face. This is also known as "short man's syndrome"
in the mainstream society.

Vendaval

Interesting. And your response got me to thinking...

Perhaps I would have received more feedback to my OP, had I directly asked Femdoms if they've observed a notably higher percentage of malesubs that have small cocks compared to the total male population at large, instead of vaguely wondering out loud if there's a notably higher percentage of malesubs who perceive themselves as possessing a small cock, compared to the total malesub population at large.

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