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ORIGINAL: spacehippie

Ok, I'm not sure if its just me but I think I didnt make my self very clear, my mistake. What I was wondering about it students who are at university and are interested in BDSM, how do they handle it? With a job, uni work, social life etc. I was hoping to set up a group for students (me included) to see how they do it etc. Does that clarify things? I wanna talk to other students and see how they handle it.
Peace

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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

no one has yet written the textbook....most likely because there are no right and wrong ways, no right and wrong answers....everyone practices in their own way
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really? what d'ya call old man wiseman and that one gal that claims to be a pro domme with all her books?
there are plenty of "textbooks".
they all claim to know it all.
they all claim THEIR way is the REAL way.

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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML


Actually all the SM nonfiction authors I know are pretty upfront at saying they write about what they know and make it explicitly clear there are other valid approaches.

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then why does everyone (except YOU....) CLAIM it is THEE way to go?
YOU i know are a gentleman and a scholar...at least YOU never had a crossword against ME.

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648
It's not going to happen on a site like collarme.com ever because this is a non-pay site. John expects to be paid for his time, which if you are attending 'school' is fine - pay for your education. This site however offers the exchange of information for free.


Actually, I don't get paid. I get airfare and a hotel room and (rarely) a few meals. All the other out-of-pocket expenses I pay myself. I try to cover those with back-of-the-room book sales but it's a rare trip in which I come home with more money than I had when I left.

** I don't take issue with being paid or losing money. I take issue with misrepresentation - which it seemed to me you were doing.**

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I have rarely seen a website where the information consists of disagreements and contradictions, a situation that reflects the scene better than a monolithic viewpoint

Since I was responding to the OP I neglected to specify I was talking about the kind of website that he was referring to, not a discussion site like CollarMe

**Since you cannot know the OP's mind (thoughts, whatever terminology you choose, etc.) you cannot refer ('talk about the kind of' - minus verb conjugation on 'talk' vs. 'talking') to a website that he was referring to. I went back, I read the original post. No mention of a website - mention of a group (fair to assume web based absolutely) yes. Website no.

Moving along the OP says "Ok, I'm not sure if its just me but I think I didnt make my self very clear, my mistake. What I was wondering about it students who are at university and are interested in BDSM, how do they handle it? With a job, uni work, social life etc. I was hoping to set up a group for students (me included) to see how they do it etc. Does that clarify things? I wanna talk to other students and see how they handle it.
Peace "

Which is to date 12:05AM (Fri morning just entered) west coast time his only 2 posts on the subject.**

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But if you are paying for one of his classes you are getting a 'monolithic viewpoint'. He is only one man. Even if he is drawing his presentation through mulitple sources, it all goes through one filter (him).

That was why I suggest conventions like Sinsations in Leather. While one class may be biased, there are multiple speakers. Also the attendees can interact giving an observer a good idea of how mainstream any individual speaker is.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
*no one has yet written the textbook....most likely because there are no right and wrong ways, no right and wrong answers....everyone practices in their own way

To set this up you will need faculty, advisors, curricula, materials, and could only teach fairly intellectual subjects (no how-tos).

Then you would need students, a large chunk of whom enter with relatively similar levels of experience and interests. And money for tuition, time for study, and desire to go to courses.

With most metro areas already having solid or semi-solid groups to socialize and enjoy...with travelling lecturists and panelists and conventions already giving mini-versions of what you propose, with so many disparate levels of understanding, desire, experience and the fact that most people come into this far after the standard "structured learning period" of life...I just don't see it as a feasible thing.

Again, it's a good idea.

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648
It's not going to happen on a site like collarme.com ever because this is a non-pay site. John expects to be paid for his time, which if you are attending 'school' is fine - pay for your education. This site however offers the exchange of information for free.


Actually, I don't get paid. I get airfare and a hotel room and (rarely) a few meals. All the other out-of-pocket expenses I pay myself. I try to cover those with back-of-the-room book sales but it's a rare trip in which I come home with more money than I had when I left.

** I don't take issue with being paid or losing money. I take issue with misrepresentation - which it seemed to me you were doing.**

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I have rarely seen a website where the information consists of disagreements and contradictions, a situation that reflects the scene better than a monolithic viewpoint

Since I was responding to the OP I neglected to specify I was talking about the kind of website that he was referring to, not a discussion site like CollarMe

**Since you cannot know the OP's mind (thoughts, whatever terminology you choose, etc.) you cannot refer ('talk about the kind of' - minus verb conjugation on 'talk' vs. 'talking') to a website that he was referring to. I went back, I read the original post. No mention of a website - mention of a group (fair to assume web based absolutely) yes. Website no.

Moving along the OP says "Ok, I'm not sure if its just me but I think I didnt make my self very clear, my mistake. What I was wondering about it students who are at university and are interested in BDSM, how do they handle it? With a job, uni work, social life etc. I was hoping to set up a group for students (me included) to see how they do it etc. Does that clarify things? I wanna talk to other students and see how they handle it.
Peace "

Which is to date 12:05AM (Fri morning just entered) west coast time his only 2 posts on the subject.**

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But if you are paying for one of his classes you are getting a 'monolithic viewpoint'. He is only one man. Even if he is drawing his presentation through mulitple sources, it all goes through one filter (him).

That was why I suggest conventions like Sinsations in Leather. While one class may be biased, there are multiple speakers. Also the attendees can interact giving an observer a good idea of how mainstream any individual speaker is.

**I have no clue what Sinsations in Leather is all about (prior to what you've said); I've never been, never heard of it before these posts; I don't read minds and can't be expected to 'know' by electronic web-site osmosis of thought; I think you don't read minds (could be wrong); I think most other people don't read minds (could be wrong); I can't respond to what I don't see presented. Details, qualifications, I can only go by what's presented. As presented it sounded like you promoting yourself (which I have no issue with) by misrepresentation (which I do have issue with).**

D (owner of j).

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648
As presented it sounded like you promoting yourself (which I have no issue with) by misrepresentation (which I do have issue with).**

D (owner of j).

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ORIGINAL: Sensualips
Now you are just making me jealous. I wanna go somewhere fun! :)

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In just what way am I misrepresenting myself?

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ORIGINAL: spacehippie

Ok, not sure how to start this, but I'm gonna try any ways. I read a profile by MistressUni, about how she wanted to start an online group for students who are into or want to be into the scene. Since I myself am one of these students, I was looking forward to hearing more about this. But that hasn’t happened :( So I thought I'd see how many people are interested in such a group, and who would be able to organize it. I'm not the best with computers, so I wouldn’t know how to start a group. But I really would be interested in joining one, and talking to other students and their experiences.
Peace out,
Spacehippie

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ORIGINAL: Wolfie648

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In just what way am I misrepresenting myself?

** I don't take issue with being paid or losing money. I take issue with misrepresentation - which it seemed to me you were doing.**

please note the word and tense of SEEMED

D (owner of j)

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As presented it sounded like you promoting yourself (which I have no issue with) by misrepresentation (which I do have issue with).**
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