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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

Being a Domme is a LOT of hard work.. There is heavy equipment, expensive  paraphenalia, expensive outfits, makeup, hair styling, manicures, plastic surgery, Rent for a big space, advertising, maintenace, PHOTOGRAPY, web design, Web Hosting.... add to that regular living expenses!
Gosh I am getting exhausted thinking of all the money I have spent...with very little coming in. It is only fair to have some help with all of that...Being as though, being a good Domme is SO EXPENSIVE...it stands to reason, that you can be a BETTER Domme if you have more financial resources.  I do not think its fair to be expected to pay for all of that myself when I really  WON'T be  the one enjoying it...but rather the subs.  Furthermore, with all of that overhead, everyone must carry their weight and CONTRIBUTE.

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ORIGINAL: 4u2spoil

But the question to ask is why men have always preferred women who are attractive. It's not fair to frumpy woman fetishists if we don't reexamine this notion that men like outwardly pretty women.

(sea, that's said in jest. Serious responses in post 409)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


I have yet to find a guy who says "Since it's all about you, I come around and clean your house while you're at work, I want YOU to be happy, that will make me happy!" - now that would be real servitude.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I never understood the "instant worship" effect or the "submissively yours" signature.

If I don't know somebody from Adam, why would he be submissive to me or why would I be dominant to him? We're strangers, on the internet, not at a fetish party where we might play.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I never understood the "instant worship" effect or the "submissively yours" signature.

If I don't know somebody from Adam, why would he be submissive to me or why would I be dominant to him? We're strangers, on the internet, not at a fetish party where we might play.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I never understood the "instant worship" effect or the "submissively yours" signature.

If I don't know somebody from Adam, why would he be submissive to me or why would I be dominant to him? We're strangers, on the internet, not at a fetish party where we might play.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Why do you assume that wanting someone who is submissive or masochistic to me is about my "sense of worth"? Domination and sadism of ANY kind gratify my sense of pleasure and my kink, not my self-esteem. I don't need you to submit to me to feel good or "ok" about myself; I need it because it gets me off. If you don't submit to me in ways I enjoy, I will have no interest in you.

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Why do you assume that wanting someone who is submissive or masochistic to me is about my "sense of worth"? Domination and sadism of ANY kind gratify my sense of pleasure and my kink, not my self-esteem. I don't need you to submit to me to feel good or "ok" about myself; I need it because it gets me off. If you don't submit to me in ways I enjoy, I will have no interest in you.

So true. It's funny how some "submissive" men with clear chips on their shoulders think all dominant women want their submission.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I actually kinda like women in fuzzy slippers.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Why do you assume that wanting someone who is submissive or masochistic to me is about my "sense of worth"? Domination and sadism of ANY kind gratify my sense of pleasure and my kink, not my self-esteem. I don't need you to submit to me to feel good or "ok" about myself; I need it because it gets me off. If you don't submit to me in ways I enjoy, I will have no interest in you.

So true. It's funny how some "submissive" men with clear chips on their shoulders think all dominant women want their submission.

Oh, but many dominant women definitely do, Mistress K.  I've quite a selection of examples in my inbox - all starting with the words "Hello slut/worm/whore".  That said, I reply as though I'm talking to any non-dominant woman with whom I'm getting acquainted, and most are happy to go along with that.  Actually, for reasons I can completely understand, they often seem quite relieved. 

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I never understood the "instant worship" effect or the "submissively yours" signature.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I would think servitude is about SERVING somebody, serving somebody is different from domination (since you said in another post you were a pro domme, I would have thought you know the difference). Service is an unselfish act, which is about the person who is being served, not the one serving. So in case the guy wants a head fuck from it, he doesn't want to serve, he wants his kinks fulfilled, simple as that.

Now loaning out a sub, isn't that a convenient way of having somebody else keeping your sub busy so you don't have to do it? Why would I want to take on somebody elses sub?

Matter of fact is, guys love to say that it is all about the woman, then their head fuck shouldn't play the major role in it.

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Why do you assume that wanting someone who is submissive or masochistic to me is about my "sense of worth"? Domination and sadism of ANY kind gratify my sense of pleasure and my kink, not my self-esteem. I don't need you to submit to me to feel good or "ok" about myself; I need it because it gets me off. If you don't submit to me in ways I enjoy, I will have no interest in you.

So true. It's funny how some "submissive" men with clear chips on their shoulders think all dominant women want their submission.

Oh, but many dominant women definitely do, Mistress K.  I've quite a selection of examples in my inbox - all starting with the words "Hello slut/worm/whore".  That said, I reply as though I'm talking to any non-dominant woman with whom I'm getting acquainted, and most are happy to go along with that.  Actually, for reasons I can completely understand, they often seem quite relieved. 

Most of the dominant women with substance and maturity and class and authenticity don't bother with that sort of childish "Hey worm" behavior.
It's so confusing why you keep running into those types.

It is confusing, yes.  Most of the women who've contacted me aren't users of these forums.  All of them have read my profile and, presumably, consider me to be a sub, not a bottom. 

Perhaps you keep running into "Hey worm" types because the truly authentic alfa females can tell you don't really want to serve their needs, you want your own needs served. There is a big reason why bottoms like you should not call themselves "submissive".

Bottoms want to be dominated, the don't want to serve.

. . . Though all of the women who've contacted me have read my profile, you, as far as I can make out, haven't.  So how would you know?  I, on the other hand, have read your profile.  This shows me that you're a female supremacist who believes that female supremacy is genetically determined.  I'd expect you to have a very exacting idea indeed of what constitutes a 'sub' as opposed to a 'bottom'. 

But in the end, I don't really care.  I don't need your, or anyone else's, validation of me as a submissive.  All I need to know is that I give a partner what she wants, and that she do likewise for me.

Alfa females (which you seem to not be able to attract) are not consumed on how you treat them, until and only until you become their subby. If they don't know you from Adam.... trust me...they don't care about you or what you think or just how much you "treat them as you do non-dominant" women. You really think dominant women consider you, your opinions or the way you decide to treat them as relevant? They don't. Your opinions are irrelevant. They don't define themselves by your interpretation of them or if you treat them in a certain manner. The don't care about you, what you think or if you treat them submissively or not. A lot dominant women want your submission, huh?

Some do, Mistress K.  They really do.  Sorry, but there it is.  I know only a little about the sorts of cmails dominants get; you know only a little about the sorts of cmails I get. You're happy with your own self-identification; I'm happy with mine. 

Get over yourself.

Thanks for the advice. 

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Oh, but many dominant women definitely do, Mistress K.  I've quite a selection of examples in my inbox - all starting with the words "Hello slut/worm/whore".  That said, I reply as though I'm talking to any non-dominant woman with whom I'm getting acquainted, and most are happy to go along with that.  Actually, for reasons I can completely understand, they often seem quite relieved.