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New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 9:48:17 AM   
justheather


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Ok, like so many other people in the country, I have put on a few extra pounds over the last couple of years and it's starting to get to me. I didnt want to give it over to my dominant initially because I worried that Id not be successful and that it would come down to my disobeying him as a result of whatever issues keep me from doing healthy things for myself like exercising (which is what it basically comes down to...that and getting older I guess...) (ok and a love of all things chocolate but that's an addiction which as we all know is an illness...right?)...but after feeling absolutely no motivation to put my money where my mouth is in terms of getting off my ever expanding ass, I decided to turn to him for help. Im still worried about how this is going to play out.
He is aware of all these feelings, so its not like Im turning to the group for something that I should be turning to him for but Im wondering if any submissives out there have successfully lost weight or toned up with the help of their dominant and if so what sort of mindset did you take in your approach?
Also, what did you do to get back on track when you faltered? How involved was he or she in the process? Was his or her encouragement enough or did you find you needed things to be framed in very rigid ways in order for you to thrive?
Any positive input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 10:47:34 AM   
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Greetings heather,

i did not even have to ask my Master for help, i simply admitted i was not happy with my weight, and he put me on a diet and exercise plan.

i had to have the mindset of "i'm doing this because it pleases Master" otherwise i would not have done it, i simply did not have the willpower to do it for myself.

i lost 10 pounds and 3 or 4 inches off my waist in about 2 months.

and i know it was the "pleasing Master" aspect that kept me going, same as any other orders that came with punishment if not done... because once i was released i didn't do sh*t.

for a sub/slave hoping to lose weight i believe the best and most effective way to do it is through your Dom/Master.

good luck to you.

slave angela

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 12:22:34 PM   
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wow...a thread i can reply to!! thanks:) Yes i had a very strict Master, i could not come live with him and start our relationship until i lost 140 pounds. How's that for a diet!!!
It worked. Thinking that that he was the most amazing Master in the whole Land, i was so blessed he would choose me,,,i would have done anything to be with him. Alas...sadly...things did not turn out well at all. Rather badly as a matter of fact.
The most amazing thing of all happened. The woman who struggled with weight all her life? kept it off!!!!! Yes i am still in shock,,,,despite it all...somehow. i will always be grateful that he thought big women were cows. Unfortunately...sadly...i did not find that out till i moved in. It "only"took 1 year to recover from that time in my life.
Now my new body and i are very happy.

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 3:59:57 PM   
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heh chocolate addiction an illness? NOT. I recently lost weight, because of stress. I don't recommend that method. I'm trying to keep it off. But I'm having a clothing crisis....baggy pants, skirts that do not fit. I guess that's the downside to weight loss. I'll take it.

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 6:07:09 PM   
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Thank you guys so much for sharing your success! I know that what I need to do is just adopt the mentality that Im doing it for him.
You guys rock, Im really proud of you.
Katy, you suck! ;-)

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/16/2006 6:11:10 PM   
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quote:

Katy, you suck! ;-)


BITE ME!



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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/17/2006 3:46:55 AM   
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I've been working successfully on getting fit, and it's by "my" choice (down four sizes). I'm not on a "diet," but rather made lifestyle changes that are necessary to healthy and happy living.

I would only caution giving someone else the power over you, to make changes that "you" have to make yourself. If you allow them all the power, you are not changing for you, you're doing it for them. And while this method may work initially, if the relationships ends, what happens then?

I feel the power is only within ourselves, and the "support" offered from others will be just that...support. IMO, I'd say to let him support your choices...not make them for you.

Perhaps you can draw up a plan of action, and ask him to assist you with maintaining the plan. I have always felt that mixing a D/s or BDSM related dynamic to weight loss/getting fit, as a losing proposition. The responsibility is handed over to someone else, thus making the changes temporary and mostly part of power exchange. I just don't see it being a permanent change, without the one person taking FULL responsibility for their own changes/choices.

And to mossy: Congratulations on your fabulous changes!

K

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/17/2006 6:04:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Katy, you suck! ;-)


BITE ME!




If only I hadnt just asked him to take control over what sweets go into my mouth....you'll have to wait while I get permission to bite you, katy.

(edited for hyperbole)

< Message edited by justheather -- 1/17/2006 6:58:09 AM >


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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/17/2006 6:22:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan

I would only caution giving someone else the power over you, to make changes that "you" have to make yourself. If you allow them all the power, you are not changing for you, you're doing it for them. And while this method may work initially, if the relationships ends, what happens then?



Thanks so much for your thoughtful response.

I guess I should make a distinction here between what I see as losing weight for another person and, say, not eating a brownie for another person. I desire to lose a few pounds because my jeans are too tight and I dont care for the way my thighs look. Im not losing weight for someone else but with the help of someone else.

Im a submissive woman. That's not just when it comes to the bedroom. That's also not just when it comes to doing things to please him. I dont serve my dominant solely out of a need to give. I also serve my dominant because I get some things I need in return. One of the things I get is the freedom to lay down the details of things I find overwhelming and allow someone else to manage them so that I am free to do the deeper work.

I have been aware for many years that I have a very highly developed external locus of control, as opposed to a highly developed internal locus of control. This is something that can be, and has been, modified to some extent, but very much of it, in my opinion, is hard wiring. I can spend a whole lot of energy trying to change the way I am or I can find ways to facilitate my being the healthiest and happiest person I can be while accepting and even celebrating my submissive nature.

Thank God I have a dominant who gets me and loves me as is! That is probably the only reason Ive been able to comfortably come to him and ask him to share some of the burden of this task with me. It is very much in a collaborative, healthy and supportive spirit that this is occurring. My only concern is that I will be unable to seperate any failure/setback on my part from the idea that Ive somehow disappointed him. That comes from inside me, not from him. That is why Ive asked for the help, wisdom and experiene of the group.

I do not agree that a person will not make lifelong changes if they require an outside locus of control to initiate that change. I struggled with bulimia nervosa for eight years, and through the help of an inpatient program and OA, I was able to successfully put a stop to that destructive cycle. A lot of the important, deep work was done while someone else took complete control of what food went into my mouth. If I had been still struggling with controlling my food, Id never have been free to do the real work at hand.

Im a pretty self-aware person and Ive done my share of seeking out groups for help and support on my way down this amazing path Im on. I see seeking the assistance of my dominant in the same light Id see going to WeightWatchers or OA for example. Accountability to those groups (and in the case of the 12 step variety, leaning on a power outside yourself, greater than yourself - hey, sound familiar?) is what millions of people do every day in order to find the task of change a little bit easier.

That said, I do appreciate the wisdom of your experience and do not take your advice lightly. I also agree that the best reason to make a change is for yourself. Congratulations on your continued success.


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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/24/2006 1:50:04 AM   
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You go Girl! Master and i are both trying to change our lifestyles...for our health, our sex life (I'd like to be more bendy and acrobatic haha) and to improve our appearances (we all say health but really we all want to look better,don't we). We've reduced our calories and intend to start an exercise schedule soon (can we count our daily aerobic sex as exercise?). We encourage each other and share our struggles (like my addiction to Mocha Lattes which are 400 calories!!!!).

I get rewarded for good days (eating healthy and staying under 2500 calories) and we discuss my bad days. I don't think I'll ever get punished for a bad day, though, and that makes all the difference. I think if He were to use punishment as a motivator I would grow to resent Him and just drink the lattes without telling Him out of spite and we don't need that. I don't want to resent him or blame him for my failure so W/we keep it positive. When He does well I tell Him how proud I am of Him as well. I find a food diary to be really really helpful. Just making myself aware of what I'm eating in a day opened my eyes to so much and it also gives me something to show Him at the end of the day so He can see how well I did.

Drinking her coffee with non-fat, no-carb creamer...
typesgirl

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/24/2006 12:24:28 PM   
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I agree, those all sound like reasonable and wise choices to make.
I also agree about non-punishment for having a bad day. That's not what this is about at all. That would only create more problems. My dom is taking a very hands-off but encouraging approach....
Of course I say this after having just eaten several spoonfuls of cold stone creamery ice cream BUT as soon as the ipod is charged Im on the treadmill.
No, sex doesnt count as exercise cause y'all was doin that before!

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/24/2006 12:49:27 PM   
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Here's my problem and it happens every Valentine's season.
The little candy hearts. They aren't anything but little sugar cubes.
I love 'em.

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/24/2006 1:39:59 PM   
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I've often imagined a Dom's Hand diet that I think would be fun and wildly successful, where a sub could only eat what came from her master's hand (or other anatomy). I'd be working hard to earn some chocolate kisses.

Meanwhile, I often encourage myself to eat healthier by imagining "Hmm, would my dom who cared about me feed me this?"

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/29/2006 3:01:24 PM   
typesgirl


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Ooh! Shigglyboom...that's an awesome idea. Instead of WWJD..it's WWDE (What would Dom eat?)...think I can get a bracelet?
typesgirl

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RE: New year, new me...a girl can hope - 1/29/2006 3:24:55 PM   
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Typesgirl - you can make one of those bracelets with the interchangeable letters. Then when you feel like cheating on your diet, you can snap your wrist with it!



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