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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:26:29 PM   
MasterShake69


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now if Rush wasnt RICH  and JUST AN average person that was using his medical plan they would have pickedup the fact he already had an RX filled.



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now if Rush wasnt and average person and was using his medical plan they would have pickedup the fact he already had an RX filled.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Rush is a hypocrite... Now that I've said it, how many of you libs on here are for legalizing drugs, but criticize Rush for his addiction?

The mirror has two faces.



I wouldn't hold an addiction against him.  However I would hold against him the lies he told about his addiction and the effect it had on those who need medication and the jaded doctor's who responded to the Rush situation.  There was a direct response to that situation that many who live in pain suffered because the doctor's we even more afriad we were all addicts.  You can clean an addiction up... but charactor typically remains the same.  Willing to lie... willing to let other's suffer and go on as normal rather than working to undo some of the damage you have done... is what speaks the loudest to me and other pain sufferer's.  Yes... the mirror has two faces and I would think Rush see's double.. but then... he would have to have a heart to do so.


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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:27:54 PM   
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actually i think coke powder should ahve the same punishment as crack. 

Just you arent given coke or crack by a Dr. to start your addiction.

A drug you are given by a Dr that starts your addiction i wouldnt throw the book at them at that time.  Now the second time they go backk to the pills i would throw the book at them.



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So criminal possession of prescription drugs is now viewed with the aid of a slide rule....different classes of sleazyness here.That would help explain sentencing guidelines that split hairs between coke in its powder form and crack cocaine.Silly me,it all becomes clear now.

Whether you realise it or not that is the second time you have advocated a two tier system to the enforcement of drug laws.Coincidence or not those tier's break down nicely along some socio-economic fault lines.Have you given any thought at all to the racial disparity one would find in prosecutions.Similiar to and perpetuating the same disparity currently evidenced by the sentencing guidelines for crack cocaine as compared to powder cocaine.A practice you claim you would like to see abolished,to be replaced by this other nonsense.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:30:18 PM   
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Hence the reference to being able to differentiate between pain and uncomfortable....and sorry the pain experienced by addicts after withdrawal means you done fucked up and got yourself addicted in the first place.Again to hang the hypocrite with his own words that comes down to personal responsibility ....working on my 5th year with an unlimited vicodin script.....and still there is only one person responsible for my well being...ME
Withdrawal is not restricted to addicted people. People who are physically dependent also go through WDs. I know...I just took a brief holiday from my pain medication. 

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:35:05 PM   
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Using Viaga isnt something a junkie would use ;)



Yes it is, because junk deflates the cock and prevents men from having hard-ons. It follows that Viagra would be very much needed ;)  .
Pain meds do indeed affect the libido and erectile ability. They lower testosterone levels in Men. I know this, too, as I also use testosterone.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:36:26 PM   
MasterShake69


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Status: offline 		when i think of a junkie i think of anyone who is addicted to illegal drugs......  from Marijuana to crack.

but if you see it as just certain ones ill go along with your definition for now.



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Are you dense? You said "junkie": "junk" typically means opiates, notorious at inhibiting erectile function in men. Opiates are Limbaugh's drugs of choice.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:41:19 PM   
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when i think of a junkie i think of anyone who is addicted to illegal drugs......  from Marijuana to crack.

but if you see it as just certain ones ill go along with your definition for now.



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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Are you dense? You said "junkie": "junk" typically means opiates, notorious at inhibiting erectile function in men. Opiates are Limbaugh's drugs of choice.

Well right there is the problem MS a junkie is not defined by the illegality or absence thereof of his/her drug of choice a junkie, or if you prefer a druggie, is defined by his need for said drug.Absence of choice is what makes a junkie,not drug of choice.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:42:14 PM   
MasterShake69


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Marijuana is not a victimless crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmtirw5io8



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actually i think coke powder should ahve the same punishment as crack. 

Just you arent given coke or crack by a Dr. to start your addiction.

A drug you are given by a Dr that starts your addiction i wouldnt throw the book at them at that time.  Now the second time they go backk to the pills i would throw the book at them.



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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

So criminal possession of prescription drugs is now viewed with the aid of a slide rule....different classes of sleazyness here.That would help explain sentencing guidelines that split hairs between coke in its powder form and crack cocaine.Silly me,it all becomes clear now.

Whether you realise it or not that is the second time you have advocated a two tier system to the enforcement of drug laws.Coincidence or not those tier's break down nicely along some socio-economic fault lines.Have you given any thought at all to the racial disparity one would find in prosecutions.Similiar to and perpetuating the same disparity currently evidenced by the sentencing guidelines for crack cocaine as compared to powder cocaine.A practice you claim you would like to see abolished,to be replaced by this other nonsense.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:43:21 PM   
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i also think we should be throwing the book at Marijuana users for a second offense ;)

Marijuana is not a victimless crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmtirw5io8



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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

actually i think coke powder should ahve the same punishment as crack. 

Just you arent given coke or crack by a Dr. to start your addiction.

A drug you are given by a Dr that starts your addiction i wouldnt throw the book at them at that time.  Now the second time they go backk to the pills i would throw the book at them.



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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

So criminal possession of prescription drugs is now viewed with the aid of a slide rule....different classes of sleazyness here.That would help explain sentencing guidelines that split hairs between coke in its powder form and crack cocaine.Silly me,it all becomes clear now.

Whether you realise it or not that is the second time you have advocated a two tier system to the enforcement of drug laws.Coincidence or not those tier's break down nicely along some socio-economic fault lines.Have you given any thought at all to the racial disparity one would find in prosecutions.Similiar to and perpetuating the same disparity currently evidenced by the sentencing guidelines for crack cocaine as compared to powder cocaine.A practice you claim you would like to see abolished,to be replaced by this other nonsense.

And how does that statement adress my post.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:43:55 PM   
MasterShake69


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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

when i think of a junkie i think of anyone who is addicted to illegal drugs......  from Marijuana to crack.

but if you see it as just certain ones ill go along with your definition for now.



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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Are you dense? You said "junkie": "junk" typically means opiates, notorious at inhibiting erectile function in men. Opiates are Limbaugh's drugs of choice.

Well right there is the problem MS a junkie is not defined by the illegality or absence thereof of his/her drug of choice a junkie, or if you prefer a druggie, is defined by his need for said drug.Absence of choice is what makes a junkie,not drug of choice.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:48:52 PM   
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Yes, you read that right. Vice President Dick Cheany is now standing accused of running an illegal DEATH SQUAD.

More details as they become available.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:50:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well if you can show me a junkie jonesing for a little blue pill.....yes.
Sort of missing the point here again aren't you MS...the viagra is not what qualifies Rush has a junkie,though the oxy certainly gets him there in my book

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:50:49 PM   
MasterShake69


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President Barack Obama's aides Rahm Emanuel and Robert Gibbs knew what they were doing when they declared Rush Limbaugh the leader of the Republican opposition. They were putting Republican politicians in a trap. Repudiating Limbaugh would mean alienating millions of conservatives and declaring Limbaugh's plainspoken conservatism — which many of those politicians share — outside the lines of the national debate. But neither could Republicans allow the insinuation that they take orders from a radio-host stand. If voters got that impression, they would look weak. Worse, the polls show more people dislike Limbaugh than like him.

The Republicans escaped this trap by saying that the White House was talking about Limbaugh in order to avoid talking about Obama's failure to come up with a financial-rescue plan. But now one Limbaugh controversy has been replaced by another. Instead of squabbling with Democrats about him, Republicans are arguing with one another. The subject of the dispute: Does Limbaugh help spread conservatism among Americans or turn them off from it?

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I dont see him as hypocritical but if others in florida did the same exact thing then he shold be punished the same way.  How was he discovered as a dr shopper was by a democrat proescuiters fishing expedition.  Nobody else would have been found out that way.  Remember this when republicans play the same tricks back at democrats ;)


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108140,00.html
The radio host and his legal team have criticized Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer (search), a Democrat, for opening the records and accused prosecutors of pursuing Limbaugh for political reasons. 



Oh for God's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it was just a liberal Democrat conspiracy to silence Rush.




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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 7:59:53 PM   
MasterShake69


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http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/former_gitmo_inmate_now_al_qaeda_leader/
James Joyner | Sunday, January 25, 2009
Two men released from the US “war on terror” prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba have appeared in a video posted on a jihadist website, the SITE monitoring service reported. One of the two former inmates, a Saudi man identified as Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri, or prisoner number 372, has been elevated to the senior ranks of Al-Qaeda in Yemen, a US counter-terrorism official told AFP. Three other men appear in the video, including Abu al-Hareth Muhammad al-Oufi, identified as an Al-Qaeda field commander. SITE later said he was prisoner No. 333.A Pentagon spokesman, Commander Jeffrey Gordon, on Saturday declined to confirm the SITE information. “We remain concerned about ex-Guantanamo detainees who have re-affiliated with terrorist organizations after their departure,” said Gordon. “We will continue to work with the international community to mitigate the threat they pose,” he said.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2009/01/former-gitmo-pr.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/abdullah-ghulam-rasoul-fo_n_173690.html

Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, Former Gitmo Detainee, Now A Taliban Leader
PAMELA HESS | March 10, 2009 09:22 PM EST |
WASHINGTON — The Taliban's new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration's efforts to close the prison. U.S. authorities handed over the detainee to the Afghan government, which in turn released him, according to Pentagon and CIA officials. Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, formerly Guantanamo prisoner No. 008, was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government in December 2007. Rasoul is now known as Mullah Abdullah Zakir, a nom de guerre that Pentagon and intelligence officials say is used by a Taliban leader who is in charge of operations against U.S. and Afghan forces in southern Afghanistan. The officials, who spoke anonymously because they are not authorized to release the information, said Rasoul has joined a growing faction of former Guantanamo prisoners who have rejoined militant groups and taken action against U.S. interests. Pentagon officials have said that as many as 60 former detainees have resurfaced on foreign battlefiel


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Well... let's see how Rush spins the latest post-Bush era accusation: that VP Cheany was running his own "Joint Special Ops Team" to fly into a targeted country, kill a selected individual, then leave. All without Presidential knowledge, approval from Congress, or oversight from any governing body....

Yes, you read that right. Vice President Dick Cheany is now standing accused of running an illegal DEATH SQUAD.

More details as they become available.


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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 8:05:51 PM   
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Well if you can show me a junkie jonesing for a little blue pill.....yes.
Sort of missing the point here again aren't you MS...the viagra is not what qualifies Rush has a junkie,though the oxy certainly gets him there in my book

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 8:08:17 PM   
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And since we can assume this, your train of thought concerning the highly illegal execution of said prisoners seems pretty sound to me

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 8:18:04 PM   
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i also think we should be throwing the book at Marijuana users for a second offense ;)

Marijuana is not a victimless crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmtirw5io8



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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

actually i think coke powder should ahve the same punishment as crack. 

Just you arent given coke or crack by a Dr. to start your addiction.

A drug you are given by a Dr that starts your addiction i wouldnt throw the book at them at that time.  Now the second time they go backk to the pills i would throw the book at them.



quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

So criminal possession of prescription drugs is now viewed with the aid of a slide rule....different classes of sleazyness here.That would help explain sentencing guidelines that split hairs between coke in its powder form and crack cocaine.Silly me,it all becomes clear now.

Whether you realise it or not that is the second time you have advocated a two tier system to the enforcement of drug laws.Coincidence or not those tier's break down nicely along some socio-economic fault lines.Have you given any thought at all to the racial disparity one would find in prosecutions.Similiar to and perpetuating the same disparity currently evidenced by the sentencing guidelines for crack cocaine as compared to powder cocaine.A practice you claim you would like to see abolished,to be replaced by this other nonsense.

And how does that statement adress my post.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 8:27:44 PM   
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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 8:39:50 PM   
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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 9:48:38 PM   
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Hence the reference to being able to differentiate between pain and uncomfortable....and sorry the pain experienced by addicts after withdrawal means you done fucked up and got yourself addicted in the first place.Again to hang the hypocrite with his own words that comes down to personal responsibility ....working on my 5th year with an unlimited vicodin script.....and still there is only one person responsible for my well being...ME
Withdrawal is not restricted to addicted people. People who are physically dependent also go through WDs. I know...I just took a brief holiday from my pain medication. 
Hippie feel free to correct me if possible,but doesn't physical dependancy indicate and define addiction.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 10:07:28 PM   
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I personally have some limited sympathy for someone who gets addicted from Dr prescribed medication.  That’s my personal belief.  You can agree or disagree with it. I see it as being different then someone first getting addicted from snorting a line of coke.



MS, for what it's worth, so do I. Even for Rush, believe it or not.

But it doesn't matter. I have sympathy for a lot of people who were put into unfair situations and had to make difficult choices, but that doesn't mean I don't think they should be held accountable for those choices if they were the wrong ones. And Rush's choice, to break the law in order to feed his addiction, was the wrong one.

Life's a bitch - it's unfair sometimes. You still have to make the proper decisions in the face of whatever it is that's been dumped on you. You know what I'm talking about, right? It's called personal responsibility. Rush talks about it all the time.


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