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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 10:28:07 PM   
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Hence the reference to being able to differentiate between pain and uncomfortable....and sorry the pain experienced by addicts after withdrawal means you done fucked up and got yourself addicted in the first place.Again to hang the hypocrite with his own words that comes down to personal responsibility ....working on my 5th year with an unlimited vicodin script.....and still there is only one person responsible for my well being...ME
Withdrawal is not restricted to addicted people. People who are physically dependent also go through WDs. I know...I just took a brief holiday from my pain medication. 
Hippie feel free to correct me if possible,but doesn't physical dependancy indicate and define addiction.
No. Addiction is a set of behaviors detrimental to the individual using the substance, whatever it may be. Perhaps this might shed some light on the subject:
http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/aberrant.html
http://www.cpmission.com/main/addiction.html

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/12/2009 11:05:00 PM   
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Well... let's see how Rush spins the latest post-Bush era accusation: that VP Cheany was running his own "Joint Special Ops Team" to fly into a targeted country, kill a selected individual, then leave. All without Presidential knowledge, approval from Congress, or oversight from any governing body....

Yes, you read that right. Vice President Dick Cheany is now standing accused of running an illegal DEATH SQUAD.

More details as they become available.


Rushpin?

They were just blowing off steam? 

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 2:37:26 AM   
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I understand your POV.  You can call me a liberal softy for having sympathy for someone in that unfair situation.

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MS, for what it's worth, so do I. Even for Rush, believe it or not.

But it doesn't matter. I have sympathy for a lot of people who were put into unfair situations and had to make difficult choices, but that doesn't mean I don't think they should be held accountable for those choices if they were the wrong ones. And Rush's choice, to break the law in order to feed his addiction, was the wrong one.

Life's a bitch - it's unfair sometimes. You still have to make the proper decisions in the face of whatever it is that's been dumped on you. You know what I'm talking about, right? It's called personal responsibility. Rush talks about it all the time.


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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 9:17:29 AM   
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Rush is a hypocrite... Now that I've said it, how many of you libs on here are for legalizing drugs, but criticize Rush for his addiction?

The mirror has two faces.



I wouldn't hold an addiction against him.  However I would hold against him the lies he told about his addiction and the effect it had on those who need medication and the jaded doctor's who responded to the Rush situation.  There was a direct response to that situation that many who live in pain suffered because the doctor's we even more afriad we were all addicts.  You can clean an addiction up... but charactor typically remains the same.  Willing to lie... willing to let other's suffer and go on as normal rather than working to undo some of the damage you have done... is what speaks the loudest to me and other pain sufferer's.  Yes... the mirror has two faces and I would think Rush see's double.. but then... he would have to have a heart to do so.


I've never known an addict or drunk who wasn't an absolutely accomplished liar. That certainly includes me. Total character change is commonly, in my experience, seen as necessary for recovery.
Of course, I haven't been sober even 20 years, I'm not an AA or NA spokesman, and haven't met every drunk/addict in the country.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 9:22:45 AM   
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Well I don't see Rush working the steps... that's for sure.  He owes a lot of us an apology at least.  It's business as usual... I haven't seen where he admited his actions hurt a lot of people... he just goes off on his prideful take on the world with no concern for the wrong he does.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 9:30:15 AM   
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Well I don't see Rush working the steps... that's for sure.  He owes a lot of us an apology at least.  It's business as usual... I haven't seen where he admited his actions hurt a lot of people... he just goes off on his prideful take on the world with no concern for the wrong he does.

Actually, the 11th tradition says that we shouldn't discuss our recovery at the level of "press, radio, and film".
We probably disagree hugely on "the wrong he does"; I add the qualifier because I ahve no idea what you mean.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 12:19:22 PM   
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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1884289,00.html

President Barack Obama's aides Rahm Emanuel and Robert Gibbs knew what they were doing when they declared Rush Limbaugh the leader of the Republican opposition. They were putting Republican politicians in a trap. Repudiating Limbaugh would mean alienating millions of conservatives and declaring Limbaugh's plainspoken conservatism — which many of those politicians share — outside the lines of the national debate. But neither could Republicans allow the insinuation that they take orders from a radio-host stand. If voters got that impression, they would look weak. Worse, the polls show more people dislike Limbaugh than like him.

The Republicans escaped this trap by saying that the White House was talking about Limbaugh in order to avoid talking about Obama's failure to come up with a financial-rescue plan. But now one Limbaugh controversy has been replaced by another. Instead of squabbling with Democrats about him, Republicans are arguing with one another. The subject of the dispute: Does Limbaugh help spread conservatism among Americans or turn them off from it?

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I dont see him as hypocritical but if others in florida did the same exact thing then he shold be punished the same way.  How was he discovered as a dr shopper was by a democrat proescuiters fishing expedition.  Nobody else would have been found out that way.  Remember this when republicans play the same tricks back at democrats ;)


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108140,00.html
The radio host and his legal team have criticized Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer (search), a Democrat, for opening the records and accused prosecutors of pursuing Limbaugh for political reasons. 



Oh for God's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it was just a liberal Democrat conspiracy to silence Rush.






As usual, you are mixing issues.

The post I made was in response to you pointing out that the Palm Beach County prosecutor was a Democrat, implying that there were political motivations involved in Rush's arrest.

Conveniently ignoring that he broke the law but somehow making it seem as if he shouldn't have been, or wouldn't have been prosecuted, if he wasn't who he was.

Try to keep in mind that this wasn't a parking ticket, it was a FELONY.  And he did no jail time. He didn't even have to admit guilt. 

Do you think the same treatment would have been afforded  to anyone living off the island, in West Palm Beach or Palm Beach Gardens?

His money and status bought him a "get out of jail free" card.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 12:31:27 PM   
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when i think of a junkie i think of anyone who is addicted to illegal drugs......  from Marijuana to crack.



See, I learn something new everyday.

I didn't know you could even become addicted to marijuana.

Though I do remember my parents calling me a junkie when they first learned I had smoked the Devil's weed.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 12:57:35 PM   
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Rule perhaps I should be checking out rehab's.....

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 2:15:10 PM   
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Rule perhaps I should be checking out rehab's.....


Does that mean you are another of them maryjane junkies?

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In the state of Indiana a person convicted of armed robbery will serve about five years in prison; someone convicted of rape will serve about twelve; and a convicted murderer can expect to spend twenty years behind bars. These figures are actually higher than the figures nationwide: eight years and eight months in prison is the average punishment for an American found guilty of murder.

The prison terms given by Indiana judges tend to be long, but with good behavior an inmate will serve no more than half the nominal sentence. Those facts are worth keeping in mind when considering the case of Mark Young. At the age of thirty-eight Young was arrested at his Indianapolis home for brokering the sale of 700 pounds of marijuana grown on a farm in nearby Morgan County. Young was tried and convicted under federal law.

He had never before been charged with drug trafficking. He had no history of violent crime. Young's role in the illegal transaction had been that of a middleman--he never distributed the drugs; he simply introduced two people hoping to sell a large amount of marijuana to three people wishing to buy it.

The offense occurred a year and a half prior to his arrest. No confiscated marijuana, money, or physical evidence of any kind linked Young to the crime. He was convicted solely on the testimony of co-conspirators who were now cooperating with the government. On February 8, 1992, Mark Young was sentenced by Judge Sarah Evans Barker to life imprisonment without possibility of parole.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/13/2009 2:23:56 PM   
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Guilty as charged Rule...guilty as charged.

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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/14/2009 6:17:49 AM   
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I would rather have Cheney order all the prisoners at GITMO executed then let them free to commit other terror attacks



That pretty much sums up everything, huh?

"Kill 'em all and let God sort them out".



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RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele - 3/14/2009 10:19:50 AM   
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In the name of the Republic Rule....all in the service of country.
And we are the bright shining light to humanity,bastion of freedom to the world?

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