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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 3:26:05 PM

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i would say he didnt have his democrat pom poms out till around 2004. But the prodemocrat bent was noticed in 2000.

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I dont think Jon Stewart has ever pretended to be 'down the middle'. And in fact, he openly gets a kick out of those who believe such and then criticize the left angle they see.

I do watch his show because he is funny, and if conservatives cannot laugh at themselves sometimes, then they are in deeeep trouble. Unless you dont have a pulse, you can't tell me that the 'destroying dough' joke wasn't funny.

Jim Cramer wasn't the target, but instead was merely a "face on the problem" of media overhype that drives armchair investors towards buying into bubble markets. Seriously, this is the first near-depression we have experienced since the coming of the 24 hr cable news channel. You can't tell me they didnt play a part in this tragedy. Naturally, you are going to get a bit of defensive spin from the media conglomerates.

The unedited version of that conversation with Cramer has been posted to the Daily Show website.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 3:43:51 PM

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Not so much libertarian as that other political party known as "sell out". He went where he thought the money, clout and popularity was going (and sadly did for a time) when all things fundie rised out of the ashes post 9/11. Ultra-nationalism, loss of free speech, united against a clearly defined enemy (not), protectionism,,, of wait that is fascism, lol. :)

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He went fascist? . He always was more of a libertarian, and he still is. He just agreed with the Bush Admin. on the War on Terror. I don't call that being a fascist. Comments like that are just as fucking stupid as calling Obama a commie. Miller's popularity didn't tank; he does a rather successful radio show. He never did that many movies, and the one's he did do sucked. As for doing standup; he did one 3 years ago on HBO. I wouldn't call that a long time.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 3:58:12 PM

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Very true, Vanessa... The lines between dictatorship, and the Bush administration got pretty blurred at it's height. As I mentioned the other night in one of the other threads, Cheany is now being accused (by reputable people in the State Dept.) of running a black ops team who's only mission was to assasinate foreign nationals of the VP's choosing. In other words, Dick Cheany had his own private death squad answerable only to him. Then we also found out that Bush had taken the power, for himself, to be able to call military strikes against American targets, if he so desired. Or if you prefer, he could call anyone who opposed him a terrorist, and have the military break into their home and kill them.

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I'm not sure how much Bush and Co. might be held accountable for their treason in the coming days. But those that stood with them, like Miller, should be called out for being such "Good Germans."

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 6:51:36 PM

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I heard that the Daily Show`s web site and Youtube`s clip got over 4 million hits, just today.

This has struck a nerve...

The White House Press Secretary`s comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szbdEgDnmp4

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 8:25:26 PM

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oh wait some liberals listed southpark

Back up a sec. Did you call me a "liberal," Shake? Now THAT is funny. Ignorant beyond all belief, but funny.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 9:55:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: DedicatedDom40

I dont think Jon Stewart has ever pretended to be 'down the middle'. And in fact, he openly gets a kick out of those who believe such and then criticize the left angle they see.

I do watch his show because he is funny, and if conservatives cannot laugh at themselves sometimes, then they are in deeeep trouble. Unless you dont have a pulse, you can't tell me that the 'destroying dough' joke wasn't funny.

Jim Cramer wasn't the target, but instead was merely a "face on the problem" of media overhype that drives armchair investors towards buying into bubble markets. Seriously, this is the first near-depression we have experienced since the coming of the 24 hr cable news channel. You can't tell me they didnt play a part in this tragedy. Naturally, you are going to get a bit of defensive spin from the media conglomerates.

The unedited version of that conversation with Cramer has been posted to the Daily Show website.

I stopped watching CNBC and FNN back at the turn of the century. It was glaringly obvious that, with very few exceptions (David Faber comes to mind, for his occasional honest reports), that the talking heads were nothing more than pimps and touts. I learned a LOT more from Graham and Dodd,
" Warren Buffett, the only student in Graham's investment seminar to earn an A+[1], made billions of dollars by methodically and rationally implementing the tenets of Graham and Dodd's book." Wikipedia; my Financial Analysis textbook, and The Motley Fool.
And Cramer was one of the biggest pimps extant; he admitted as much to Stewart. But I agree with him insofar as wanting to see lots of indictments and funds recovery, starting with AIG.
I started pulling money out of the markets back around 2000 (made a 500% return over 3 years in CSCO; mid 6 figures) and buying houses, most of which I sold in 2006. Hell, half the stocks on NASDAQ didn't have PEs; they had no earnings, they were just burning venture capital and IPO proceeds. (My ex and I were worth 12 million for a day -

- on paper)
And it's my considered opinion that charting is bullshit.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/14/2009 4:32:17 AM

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Oh wow, Stewart really ripped into Cramer.

Listen, guys, some of you really get too hung up on what way people in the media lean politically.

I mean, so what if Jon Stewart is a liberal - he's one of the few people right now really pointing out the crookery of CNBC. That's not a leftist agenda, that's just honesty, and it's a shame that it takes a comedian to to take a very insightful (and yet very entertaining) look at what these guys are doing.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/14/2009 4:49:29 AM

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All of the political leanings aside.....the one thing I did get from the confrontation that I thought and have thought since the start of this economic implosion: If all of these Wall Street gurus like, Cramer and Kudlow et al. are so damn smart.....Why didn't they see this coming and warn us all? I once worked for a company that was more or less a house of cards internally, from the outside at the time, it was the largest and most successful in the world within our industry. After the first month of reviewing just the operations within the states I was responsible for, which totaled over 100 stores I knew to get my ass out soon!....I am no guru, not a genius by any means but, observant and know my industry and how things should work within it. I have no axe to grind with Cramer and of what I have seen, found him entertaining and bright as I have found Stewart, but always knew Stewart was a comedian....Cramer, if he had a clue, pulled a not so funny joke as did all of Wall Street.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/14/2009 5:21:53 AM

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The lines between dictatorship, and the Bush administration got pretty blurred at it's height. As I mentioned the other night in one of the other threads, Cheany is now being accused (by reputable people in the State Dept.) of running a black ops team who's only mission was to assasinate foreign nationals of the VP's choosing. In other words, Dick Cheany had his own private death squad answerable only to him. Then we also found out that Bush had taken the power, for himself, to be able to call military strikes against American targets, if he so desired. Or if you prefer, he could call anyone who opposed him a terrorist, and have the military break into their home and kill them.

"God bless America...
Land that I love....!"

I'm not sure how much Bush and Co. might be held accountable for their treason in the coming days. But those that stood with them, like Miller, should be called out for being such "Good Germans."

Too bad the above is all paranoid, delusional bullshit brought to you by the same folks that believe 9/11 was perpetrated by Bush, Israel, and the Masons.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/14/2009 8:33:28 AM

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Time will tell, SB4U, since the investigations are just ramping up.

As far as the whole Cramer/Stewart thing: I tend to think that Cramer made an honest mistake on the Baer Sterns thing... after all, he didn't dump HIS stock in it before the crash... so I doubt that he was diliberately misleading people. However, Stewart has a point: the way CNBC is run, they are doing the American people a huge disservice by playing with people's heads the way they do. Me, I'm a long term investor. I don't pay attention to this day trading BS. But, the shit they've pulled imacts my bottom line.

It needs major reform, but of course that's NOT going to happen voluntarily. No, greed is one of the worst addictions out there, far worse than meth. The governor for our market needs to come in the form of federal regulations.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/14/2009 8:49:22 PM

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I watched the Kramer interview and felt that he was a legitimate but too easy and fractional target for Stewart. I am always infuriated when pretty boy Brian Williams is on the Daily Show. He acts so arrogant and condescending, and he and Stewart make little in banter about inconsequential and anecdotal bullshit back and forth. This is a guy, along with the other major broadcasters and the NYT, that repeated verbatim the military press releases on the War and Iraq. If Jon is going to go after self-aggrandizing media liars who have made a fortune pimping information instead of reporting, and he has NBC in his sights, why does not he bring Williams on and confront him with his complete lack of journalistic talent and conscience? Just a thought I had watching while Kramer squirmed. The financial news network did not report the true news. Point well taken on CNBC. But the parent network NBC - whose face is Brian Williams - sure did not do their job reporting the world news either.
And still will not even go near the truth - like, maybe right now a serious report on the Fed - who it is & what it is really doing - would be the investigation any major news should be doing....what they are doing is mindboggling....9.5 trillion dollars out their back door. Williams will never go near it. I think Jon should hold Brian accountable for his misleading and lies by omission reporting too. Up the ante.

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