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advice please - 3/14/2009 2:50:17 AM

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I am almost embarrased to post this, so please.... go easy on me!
My Daddy is a voyeur. Aside from being his little girl, I am first and foremost his whore. His wish is to have me provide oral sex to a large number of men at one time, and to have them ejaculate in my mouth and on my face. I believe the term is Bukaki. I have seen many videos of this, and am not afraid of the act itself. I AM worried about the possibility of contracting Herpes or other STDs. Unless I know these people (which I wont), I have no way of knowing their history or if they practice SSCS. Surely I am not the only slave out there who is required to be their Daddy/Master's cum-slut. How do you handle this situation? I know it is risky, but I believe that Daddy has a right to have his desire fulfilled. I am really quite torn here.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 2:58:08 AM

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Daddy has a right to have his desire fulfilled.

he has no right to put you at risk.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 2:59:32 AM

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If you are going to please your Master, then get with it. Should have thought about what if...long ago....

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 3:03:30 AM

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If you are going to please your Master

anyone who would knowingly put their slave/submissive at risk as far as health and safety is not a Master, in my opinion.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 3:11:12 AM

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....Daddy has a right to have his desire fulfilled.

Daddy also has the responsibility to look out for the health and well-being of his girl.

Common sense should never fly out the window simply because of desires. What safety measures will he...and you...be taking? If neither of you are willing to use common sense and think ahead, then both should be prepared to deal with the consequences of your choices and actions.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 5:49:59 AM

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There is something called a "dental dam" that you could use. Basically it is a thin sheet of latex which you place in your mouth. You can still give head while using it but no fluids would enter your mouth. (Saran Wrap or something similar can also be used.) Having them touch the surface of your skin isn't nearly as risky. While it wouldn't be as pleasurable for the men I am sure that they could live through it - similar to having on a condom but not so restrictive.

Here is a fairly good article on ways to protect yourself: http://www.stanford.edu/group/SHPRC/ch4_ora.html

Catching an STD orally is less likely than vaginally though the article does state that you should make sure that you have no open cuts or sores. Eyes should also be avoided.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 5:51:57 AM

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It is fine that he wants you to participate in such an act, but it is his responsibility to make sure that you are not put at risk in the process.   This has been discussed in my relationships and I made it clear my partner would garner and show me all the clean test results of everyone who would be participating. If he was not willing to do this, I bluntly said I would not participate. You need to have a very serious talk with him. As always, communication would solve quite a bit of this.

Further, let's just call a spade a spade. This is not a NEED for your Daddy. It may be high on his wants list, but that is not the same thing. As a general rule of thumb (not for everyone, I know), I tend to go by a pecking order of things:
1. Subbie's needs: After all, if they are not met by the dominant, the submissive is at risk of not having these vital things. These are things like food, shelter, health, and emotional/psychological needs. I am sure this list could be expanded somewhat. They are things that may determine whether or not a submissive lives or dies.

2. Dominant needs: Why secondary?  This is only because, the dominant is not at the mercy of someone else for these things. I put the needs of those under my care first in a family circumstance, and this is similar, in my view.

3. Dominant wants: This is kind of the point of the dynamic. It is not about abandoning all common sense and putting both wants and needs aside just to please. Certainly these wants can wait, but they will need to be tended to at some point.  They are met in a way that both have their basic needs recognized.

4. Submissive wants: See the above.

Like I said, this is merely a guideline and an idea I have gleaned off these boards from others. It is also makes sense to me logically. Your health is not really up for his disposal if he values his property.  Your job is to figure out a way together to meet his want and insuring the protection of your very real needs.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 7:01:58 AM

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If he desperately needs this desire then tell him to make sure all the participants get tested and come back negative...or you take the responsibility for your own health if he won't by saying "no".

If part of the kink is that you don't know these people and if they are clean or not he doesn't have to tell you the results. How much do you trust your Daddy?

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 8:34:24 AM

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There's no way to eliminate the risk. However, the risk is way lower than if you were having vaginal or anal unprotected. If you don't have them cum in your mouth, that will help. If they use condoms for the oral, and then pull them off to spray you, that might help. Even if the guys get tested, that's not going to help you a whole lot, since it takes 6 months for the AIDS results to be verified, and I doubt these guys will be celibate for 6 months pre-bukkake. We all do mildly risky things for our dominants, this might just have to be something you chalk up to risk-aware consensual rather than safe and sane. Just let him know beforehand that if you catch something and then give it to him, he's not allowed to complain.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 8:52:57 AM

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....i knew a Master who requested the same thing, and i asked that very ??? i think its a health risk that He should not take..respectfully saying of course...

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 8:57:09 AM

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Even if the guys get tested, that's not going to help you a whole lot, since it takes 6 months for the AIDS results to be verified, and I doubt these guys will be celibate for 6 months pre-bukkake.

You may want to check these sites for more accurate data regarding HIV infection from time of infection to when it's first detected.

http://www.avert.org/testing.htm
Most people develop detectable HIV antibodies within 6 to 12 weeks of infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months. It is exceedingly unlikely that someone would take longer than 6 months to develop antibodies.

And:

http://www.natap.org/2002/9retro/day27.htm
Most people are symptomatic beginning about 14 days after exposure and typically suffer from days to weeks of fever with or without muscle and joint aches, fatigue, headache, sore throat, swollen glands and sometimes rash.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 9:07:37 AM

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Thank you very much for your posts and links... much appreciated!

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 9:19:07 AM

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There are alot more dominants who are into this fetish, but don't say so.

I was owned by such a miserable creature at one time. I left. It wasn't my health he cared about. It was his desires he cared about.

Turn it around on the men ...... tell em you have this incredible desire and you really really want it . . ... begging.... to see 20 women all lined up to be eaten out and cum multiple times by your dominant's tongue.

See how fast they retort with their health risk.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 9:33:01 AM

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Sometimes our desires should be kept in a fantasy realm and not actually done. This would be one of those in my opinion. Ask him how long he will stay with you if his fantasy turns out to be a serious illness for you? Wouldn't that be a turn on??? This is your life and slave does not mean... some fantasy game that could include a lengthy illness or death... because then it isn't a fantasy and is far too much reality.

I would seriously think that a dominant that consider's his kink before the well being of his submissive, as abusive and dangerous. If he said... I just love the challenge... the risk... the way it makes me feel when my submissive robs a bank to bring to me all the things I love... toys to play with her with in exotic places... would you do it? When a dominant becomes blinded by anything.. that he/she fails to see the good sense in well being for either person, I consider that someone who doesn't care about the person at risk and while he/she may be dominant.. they are not responsible dominant in my opinion.

Fantasy is wonderful until it is taken to places not so wonderful and more than the idea of it no longer fun, but dangerous and/or stupid.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 9:36:44 AM

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If you are going to please your Master, then get with it. Should have thought about what if...long ago....

You go first... then report back to us about your health and sanity. I already question one of those things.

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RE: advice please - 3/14/2009 10:07:37 PM

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Remind your Daddy that anything you contract will probably get passed on to him too.

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RE: advice please - 3/15/2009 4:27:22 AM

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I AM worried about the possibility of contracting Herpes or other STDs.

Any STD/STI that you could get vaginally or anally you can get orally... gonorrhea, clamydia and syphilis... as well as HPV which was recently been implicated in cancers of the mouth, throat and thyroid.

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RE: advice please - 3/15/2009 10:54:31 AM

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It certainly sounds as though your health and safety would be at risk now doesn't it? Is Daddy thinking of his little girl's safety? I don't think so. Just think of the possible repercussions from doing such an act. Would it be worth contracting a disease and perhaps even a fatal one? The answer is no once again. Sometimes a fantasy should remain just that. I am signing off now to fantasize about chaining your Daddy up in my dungeon and putting skewers through his measley cock and sagging ball sack.

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RE: advice please - 3/15/2009 2:08:52 PM

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HAHAHA.. BohemianGoddess:) Thank You!

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RE: advice please - 3/15/2009 7:11:53 PM

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Even if the guys get tested, that's not going to help you a whole lot, since it takes 6 months for the AIDS results to be verified, and I doubt these guys will be celibate for 6 months pre-bukkake.

You may want to check these sites for more accurate data regarding HIV infection from time of infection to when it's first detected.

My docs always warn me of the 6 month rule, and, to be honest, I'm not willing to take a chance that it's exceedingly unlikely, because I want a 0% chance of getting HIV, not a .001% chance. But then, I'm not the girl getting cummed all over...I'm too paranoid for that.

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