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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 7:33:17 PM   
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       Sanity, what you need to keeping in mind here is the setting.  This is a traditional event, and the rules are different.  We don't pay the President to be an edgy political stand-up comedian, but once a year, the staff write jokes, and he runs with it.  What gets said at the Correspondents Dinner, stays there.  Last year (iirc), Bush II had a look-a-like up there, playing his inner voice.  He would mouth the usual pc muck, and the impersonator would say what he was really thinking. 

      Did you catch the part of his speech where Pres. Obama accused Hillary of wanting him dead, and maybe trying a little?  Did you notice the inside jokes that bombed (but a few rofl'd)?  How about where he announced he was just going to speak off the cuff, and the teleprompters came up?

     He was good.  We should cut him the slack the audience does, if we want to catch his act on this night.

     Of course, the same should apply to Shrub's hunt for the WMD, but I've given up hope of intellectual honesty in some quarters.

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 8:08:24 PM   
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No, Rich. Half the audience was booing, because that was inexcusable. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and as good place as any is precisely where, if the shoe were on the other foot, the other side would be enraged - and you know as well as I that that tirade went way, way over that line.

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 8:14:37 PM   
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A line has to be drawn somewhere



Whenever I say this about curtailing hate speech, people argue back that lines should not be drawn when it comes to words - they are, after all, only words. What do you believe?

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 8:29:13 PM   
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A line has to be drawn somewhere



Whenever I say this about curtailing hate speech, people argue back that lines should not be drawn when it comes to words - they are, after all, only words.




       Never "only words," Kitten, but close enough.  Nice to see that some of my ideas are rubbing off on you...

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 8:36:27 PM   
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I don't think that a comedian's deadpan delivery of a hasty Limbaughbash equates hate mongering though - nice try :-) .

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 8:43:22 PM   
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A line has to be drawn somewhere



Whenever I say this about curtailing hate speech, people argue back that lines should not be drawn when it comes to words - they are, after all, only words. What do you believe?


The difference is that you want to ban, make illegal and put in jail those people who say things with which you disagree.

Sanity and others who find what Sykes said contemptible just find that she violated the law of good taste.

If we asked for prison sentences for violation of good taste, the majority of the "lefties" would already be serving life sentences ....

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 9:01:55 PM   
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Aye, well written, Firm. My sentiments exactly.


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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/11/2009 9:30:39 PM   
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"The difference is that you want to ban, make illegal and put in jail those people who say things with which you disagree".

Some examples of  this?

Or is that more of your bull shit?

This is more about folks living in glass houses throwing stones.Ie hypocrisy posing as fake outrage.

If he`s going to give it ,he should also get it.

Again the choice is America failing or Rush`s kidneys failing.

Not a hard choice.

I knew that Cheney joke hit a nerve.  ouch!

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 4:54:44 AM   
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Aye, well written, Firm. My sentiments exactly.



Except you're both wrong about what I want - but keep getting indignant, it's cute :-) .

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 5:41:28 AM   
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Aye, well written, Firm. My sentiments exactly.



Except you're both wrong about what I want - but keep getting indignant, it's cute :-) .

In this case, it was the generic "you", as in "your side" of the ideological equation.

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:29:58 AM   
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The difference is that you want to ban, make illegal and put in jail those people who say things with which you disagree.



Generally (this isn't addressed strictly to you, so you don't have to answer, but I had to address the presposterous and erroneous comment you made above), no, we do not want to jail members of Stormfront, Aryan Nation, the KKK and the neo-Nazi League. We want to make them pay big fuckoff fines and get them where it hurts. Jail is counterproductive, nearly always.

A nice reeducation CAMP, on the other hand, now that would be a fine thing  .

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:41:42 AM   
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The difference is that you want to ban, make illegal and put in jail those people who say things with which you disagree.



Generally (this isn't addressed strictly to you, so you don't have to answer, but I had to address the presposterous and erroneous comment you made above), no, we do not want to jail members of Stormfront, Aryan Nation, the KKK and the neo-Nazi League. We want to make them pay big fuckoff fines and get them where it hurts. Jail is counterproductive, nearly always.

A nice reeducation CAMP, on the other hand, now that would be a fine thing  .


Newspeak:

Reeducation camp: Prison where people who do not hold lefty ideologically approved beliefs are punished.


Kinda like I originally said ....

Firm

PS. I chose to respond.

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:46:41 AM   
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You really need to get a sense of humour: if you see a silly, winking, tongue pulling emoticon, it usually means it's not serious. Therefore, if you see  next to reeducation camps, it means it's a joke. See?

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:50:20 AM   
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kitten, kitten, kitten.

I love you girl, but you don't understand. If I am indignant, you should be doubly so. After all, it's YOUR favorite politician who has lowered himself to the level of what the left so vehemently refers to as "hate radio".

He's wrestling with a pig, and it really looks like the pig is enjoying it.


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Aye, well written, Firm. My sentiments exactly.



Except you're both wrong about what I want - but keep getting indignant, it's cute :-) .


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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:58:14 AM   
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"The difference is that you want to ban, make illegal and put in jail those people who say things with which you disagree".

Some examples of  this?

Or is that more of your bull shit?

This is more about folks living in glass houses throwing stones.Ie hypocrisy posing as fake outrage.

If he`s going to give it ,he should also get it.

Again the choice is America failing or Rush`s kidneys failing.

Not a hard choice.

I knew that Cheney joke hit a nerve.  ouch!


You can do your own research, if it were of any real interest to you.

Here's just one quick example, although I suspect it is too long for you to actually read.

The Liberal Assault on Freedom of Speech

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 7:06:13 AM   
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I do not have a favourite politician, except, perhaps, for this one: Simone Veil . She is French, Jewish, she survived Auschwitz, and she legalised abortion for French women when she was Minister of Health in the seventies.

I love you too, Sanity :-) .

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 7:08:55 AM   
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You really need to get a sense of humour: if you see a silly, winking, tongue pulling emoticon, it usually means it's not serious. Therefore, if you see  next to reeducation camps, it means it's a joke. See?

Ah, but kittin ... your prior paragraph was in all seriousness:


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Generally (this isn't addressed strictly to you, so you don't have to answer, but I had to address the presposterous and erroneous comment you made above), no, we do not want to jail members of Stormfront, Aryan Nation, the KKK and the neo-Nazi League. We want to make them pay big fuckoff fines and get them where it hurts. Jail is counterproductive, nearly always.

No "smiley icons" in this paragraph. In fact, it was quite heartfelt and angry.

While these groups are likely as distasteful to me as they are to you, I believe in freedom of speech, much as the ACLU use to believe when they supported the KKK's right to march.

You and other proponents of "hate speech" aren't liberal at all, in the classic sense.

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 7:26:26 AM   
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Some foreign newspapers actually give a rat's ass about hurting Limbaugh's feelings? Which ones? Because I bet you that Limbaugh doesn't give a flying fuck about other people's sensitivities, especially not those that are abroad.

The comedian who referred to Limbaugh's kidneys was making a joke about his wishing that Obama would fail. Remember that? That oh, so funny, uncontroversial, MATURE "I hope Obama fails" piece of crap that embarrassed all but the most rabid members of the GOP.
There's a world of difference in stating "I hope someone's policies fail "and "I hope someone's KIDNEYS fail".  Just as there is a whole lot of difference in saying "Obama is a socialist" and "Limbaugh was the 20th terrorist".  Or can't those on the left make that distinction?

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If you can't laugh at yourselves, (and it's obvious that you cannot), you are well and truly doomed. But I suppose self-mockery is difficult to achieve when one is in the middle of the most abysmal failure.
Self-mockery is the ability to make fun of one's own failings...tis not a comedienne from the left disparaging someone...in not only a personal (after all, that is what a roast is...of course, who were they roasting again?  Limbaugh or the President?  Oh that's right...the President) who dares to speak out against her beloved leader's POLICIES.
We'll see how funny this all is about 2-3 yrs into these doomed-to-fail policies.

And here's an interesting quandary...for all of you who so staunchly supported and defended Sykes and her questionable humor and your beloved leader sitting there smirking and laughing, how do you now handle the President's reprimand of her yesterday?  His statement that her words were uncalled for?

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 7:31:18 AM   
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Riiiiiiiiiight...

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RE: One Sided Humor...that`s actually funny. - 5/12/2009 6:14:48 PM   
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There ya go... "un-called for".....

Sorts that out....

Next!



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