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Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 9:29:57 AM

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Turns out Obama is in the running for "Salesman of the Year" for the NRA.
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NRA convention loads up downtown
Glen Creno - May. 15, 2009 06:45 PM
The Arizona Republic

The National Rifle Association's annual convention opened Friday with a vast display of the latest guns and shooting gear and seminars on everything from advanced sausage processing to identity theft to carrying concealed weapons.

The three-day show at the Phoenix Convention Center is expected to draw nearly 60,000 people to the city's new convention hall. The place was packed Friday, and some exhibitors expected even more people today.

"It's the largest convention in Phoenix Convention Center history," said Cynthia Weaver, spokeswoman for the center.

There was a series of speeches by conservative politicians at US Airways Arena on Friday afternoon. And there was a swarm of people at the trade show, where people can pick up a gun and look it over the same way as checking out a cell phone at an electronics store.

They're attached to the displays with a cord and are not loaded. People looked them over and pulled the triggers, creating steady clicking sounds around the displays of the big manufacturers.

No guns were for sale. However, lots of logo clothing was being snapped up from the manufacturers and at the big NRA store.

About 40 people lined up at the Glock display to have their pictures taken with "Gunny" R. Lee Ermey, who played a sergeant in Full Metal Jacket. Nearby, some of the people demonstrating Glocks were bouncing them off the floor to demonstrate their reliability. One of the guys getting his picture taken was sporting a T-shirt saying, "I'm a bitter clinger," a reference to a campaign speech by President Obama. At another display, a pregnant woman pushing a stroller hefted a handgun.

This is the 18th NRA convention for Rowan Kloppe of St. Louis. He said he likes checking out all of the merchandise in the displays but would still come even if it wasn't there.

"I'm mainly here to show support for the Second Amendment," he said.

Glenn Tolhurst of Silver City, N.M., said he and his brother, Bruce, were looking around for shooting accessories. Both said they're worried about things like banks and car companies being taken over by the government.

"The government doesn't know how to run a business," Glenn Tolhurst said.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 9:34:55 AM

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Yea, no surprise there. The assult-style rifle I special-ordered in November was supposed to be delivered within 4 to 5 months, and when i called last week to see what the deal was, they told me it could be another 8 to 10 months. Seems the factory is working triple shifts, but can't keep up with the demand.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 10:47:58 AM

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The NRA has evolved into a fake organization.

Gun owners of America seems to be more up to par.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 10:48:11 AM

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Maybe a lot of people think that the Obama Administration is incapable of protecting them from criminals, illegal aliens and druggies?

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 11:13:30 AM

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What maybe?
Depending on the state for protection is laughable. They have no ability to or responsibility for preventing crimes.
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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 10:58:02 PM

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Yea, no surprise there. The assult-style rifle I special-ordered in November was supposed to be delivered within 4 to 5 months, and when i called last week to see what the deal was, they told me it could be another 8 to 10 months. Seems the factory is working triple shifts, but can't keep up with the demand.

There is also no recession for the ammunition manufacturers. Between law enforcement, Iraq and Afghanistan and the new dude on Pennsylvania Avenue 9mm ammo is at a premium if you can find it.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 11:01:20 PM

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Hmm it wouldn't let me view the link...said my IP address was banned or something.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/16/2009 11:39:07 PM

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Yea, no surprise there. The assult-style rifle I special-ordered in November was supposed to be delivered within 4 to 5 months, and when i called last week to see what the deal was, they told me it could be another 8 to 10 months. Seems the factory is working triple shifts, but can't keep up with the demand.

There is also no recession for the ammunition manufacturers. Between law enforcement, Iraq and Afghanistan and the new dude on Pennsylvania Avenue 9mm ammo is at a premium if you can find it.

Yeah, I stopped in at a gun shop in Marin County last month to chat them up about gun laws in Frisco in case I move there, and the shelves behind the counter were half empty. No .45 ACP, no .357, a few boxes of .38 Special, but man. You can't buy handgun ammo in Marin to save your life, or at least you couldn't that week. I think when my Panther LRC-308 is finally delivered, I'm going to stock up on a couple thousand rounds of 7.62 ammo from one of those websites, just to play it safe.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 1:15:10 AM

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Maybe a lot of people think that the Obama Administration is incapable of protecting them from criminals, illegal aliens and druggies?

The Obama administration is responsible for protecting me from criminals and druggies?...WTF Popeye I'm willing to conced illegal aliens are within the perview of the Federal Government....but the other two...really?

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 4:27:16 AM

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The NRA fear mongering? What a big surprise....

I`m w/ PAhunk,the GOA is where normal folks go.The paranoid and frightened go to the NRA for comfort.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 5:06:33 AM

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hmmmmm.....Has anyone seen any difference in the protection of citizens inside the U.S.?.....just curious....is there some unknown army of thugs hiding somewhere that I am unaware of?....some increase in violent crime?....just have to love paranoia....

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 5:25:36 AM

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Maybe a lot of people think that the Obama Administration is incapable of protecting them from criminals, illegal aliens and druggies?

It's because NRA members are dumber than the proverbial box of rocks (or fence post, take your pick). They are some of the biggest sheep on the planet. All it takes is for someone to say "Obama is gonna take your guns" and they all go running off on cue to buy more.

When I was growing up we had more guns in the house than people. All of us had a rifle and shotgun, plus a couple of pistols were hanging around. We've always had guns and always will. I enjoy shooting. That said<do most of these people with AK47's and AR15's with a stack of clips and ammo tucked away in their closet really need em? Nope. Do there actually need to be some better controls on what goes on at some gun shows? Absolutely.

The Chicken Little, sky is falling approach by the NRA is absurd.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 8:23:32 AM

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Yeah, I stopped in at a gun shop in Marin County last month to chat them up about gun laws in Frisco in case I move there, and the shelves behind the counter were half empty. No .45 ACP, no .357, a few boxes of .38 Special, but man. You can't buy handgun ammo in Marin to save your life, or at least you couldn't that week. I think when my Panther LRC-308 is finally delivered, I'm going to stock up on a couple thousand rounds of 7.62 ammo from one of those websites, just to play it safe.

I've been buying up a bit here and there. What concerns me most about Obama is that he doesn't really care about guns... he's more interested in control.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 8:26:34 AM

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Thanks for reminding me, I've got to resubscribe to the NRA, and get me another gun, or two, pluss alot of ammo

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 8:35:06 AM

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That saiddo most of these people with AK47's and AR15's with a stack of clips and ammo tucked away in their closet really need em? Nope.

Nice of you to determine what everyone else needs. Here's the problem with the scenario: if we're all wrong and Obama doesn't try to exact some sort of sweeping gun control then we're all paranoid. If we're right... the left couldn't care less because they've already determined that we don't need them and they'd gladly give up the second amendment tomorrow. As long as we can do stem cell research life is good.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 8:35:48 AM

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It's a great sales gimmick: wait for a dem president, start the rumors flying about he's going to take your guns away, and watch the sales skyrocket. It's right up there with price gouging on gas just before the Iraq war started.

Amazing how many gun nuts fall for this crap!

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 9:59:40 AM

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Maybe a lot of people think that the Obama Administration is incapable of protecting them from criminals, illegal aliens and druggies?

The Obama administration is responsible for protecting me from criminals and druggies?...WTF Popeye I'm willing to conced illegal aliens are within the perview of the Federal Government....but the other two...really?

Mike, I was in the U.S. Coast Guard and that's what we did, arrest drug smugglers in the Mona pass and the rest of the Carribean.
We even got one ship off the coast of New Jersey one time.
U.S. Customs and other agencies also arrest druggies and "criminals."
And until he gets *total* control over that Mexican border we'll continue to have druggies, criminals and illegal aliens entering our country over that border.
If you've been watching the News lately you can see that things are rapidly deteriorating along the border due to inaction by the feds.
Obama has been in office since Jan. and we're halfway through May already and he hasn't done anything yet it appears.
Are we going to have another four years of Bush policies as far as that Mexican border goes?
Mike, I'm hungry for the "Change" that Obama promised us!
"Where's the beef!"

Mike, I'm becomming a little *concerned.*
So far everything he's done is fresh out of the Bush playbook! We need *TROOPS* on that border not more laws or edicts that no-one cares about.
Mexico is *not* our "friend!"

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 10:29:19 AM

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hmmmmm.....Has anyone seen any difference in the protection of citizens inside the U.S.?.....just curious....is there some unknown army of thugs hiding somewhere that I am unaware of?....some increase in violent crime?....just have to love paranoia....

I don't think it's so much a fear of increasing crime as it is a fear of increasingly strong restrictions on gun ownership. Some of us who've been thinking for a while of purchasing certain types of weapons feel it would be prudent to get them now, in case we can't get them later.

I mean, face it, some of the democrats in Congress have made no secret of the fact that they favor very restrictive gun control laws, and they are now the party in power. And they have a president who made a couple of vague, ambiguous campaign promises to reassure gun owners, but has a historical record of some pretty strong anti-gun statements and positions. In fact, he is specifically on record as supporting a ban on the sale of some of the weapons we are now buying. For some of us, it's just a matter of making sure all our bases are covered.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 10:39:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 That said<do most of these people with AK47's and AR15's with a stack of clips and ammo tucked away in their closet really need em? Nope.

For me, the question of whether or not I need it is not even relevant. I want it. That's as far as it needs to go, as far as I'm concerned. As of now, the supreme court agrees that I have the right to own one of them, and all the ammunition I want, and I don't need to demonstrate any need whatsoever.

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Do there actually need to be some better controls on what goes on at some gun shows? Absolutely.

Completely agreed. And not just at gun shows, either. As a lifelong gun owner, I am absolutely convinced the time has come for more sensible gun laws.

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RE: Talk about Unintended Consequences - 5/17/2009 10:50:13 AM

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Doubtful and this is a baseless comment. In fact the new Drug Czar has stated that there will be no more war on citizens. This administration has more of a leaning to see some drugs legalized.

As to the OP, a scare of a ban on weapons has always increased gun sales. I do not want to see the sale of weapons limited, but I am all for a requirement of some kind of safety course to aquire them. Just in our neighborhood, some idiot did not check the chamber, and fired a round through the floor of their home into the basement, where their UM's bedrooms are. No one was hurt but charges were filed against him for Child Endangerment in the third degree.

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Maybe a lot of people think that the Obama Administration is incapable of protecting them from criminals, illegal aliens and druggies?

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