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JonnieBoy -> RE: How soon until there is a new 'Thought Police' Agency? (5/29/2009 1:05:54 PM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
(7) Individuals prone to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence span all races, ethnicities, and religious beliefs, and individuals should not be targeted based solely on race, ethnicity, or religion.
(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.
(9) Certain governments, including the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia have significant experience with homegrown terrorism and the United States can benefit from lessons learned by those nations.
The above are quotes from HR1955, a bill that is currently under debate in the Senate, it has already cleared the house.
Now, article 9, suggests that the US take lessons from other countries.....
However, the United Kingdom has imprisoned members of Senn Fenn and ideological supporters of the IRA who never used a gun OR planted a bomb, some without trial.....
Preventing 'Ideological Terrorism' means arresting people for personal philosophies, which may or may not be considered terror related by the average person.
For the record, some groups that have been placed on the watch list for 'ideologies' which are considered seditionist by the Department of Homeland Defense includes, but are not limited to, Religious affiliated groups protesting the war, Native American groups promoting Native American rights AND compensation for treaty violations.
Consider some of your thoughts, beliefs both religious and moral, and ask the question, "Can I be arrested for this?"
With reference to the Sinn Fein point and presuming (correct me if I'm wrong) you mean "internment", if there's one thing the USA can learn from the UK (the crown, actually) ... it did not have the desired effect, in fact, quite the opposite could be argued, you won't hear that from the crown worshipers ... but then honesty has never been their strong point.
From first hand experience, those sort of powers are dangerous in the wrong hands, if the US should implement them in a similar way it will be a matter of time before similar suffering and miscarriages of justice occur.
Pirate
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