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Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 7:25:43 AM   
Cagey18


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Status: offline 		Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 7:33:07 AM   
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Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )



Goddammit  .

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 7:45:26 AM   
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 7:57:29 AM   
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Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )



Goddammit  .

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:09:23 AM   
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What, not big enough for you?

Some women...never satisfied...



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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:12:47 AM   
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Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )



Actually for a fair comparison, one might want to compare Bush's ratings in his first term (or better yet his first couple of years), not the end of his presidency.

I look forward to seeing your update on Obama's ratings this time next year, and the year after.

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:14:36 AM   
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:23:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Strange, isn't it, how perception differs from one person to the next? What you see as rabid, I consider to be really rather moderate. Obama is a popular president, but people aren't blind to his appeal, and whilst many may support him in general, I see plenty of examples where they question him for some of his more controversial decisions.

As for his future popularity, only time will tell, so those agents of doom who gleefully predict his downfall are little more than cyber Nostradamuses  .

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:25:03 AM   
Cagey18


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ORIGINAL: Thadius

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Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )



Actually for a fair comparison, one might want to compare Bush's ratings in his first term (or better yet his first couple of years), not the end of his presidency.

I look forward to seeing your update on Obama's ratings this time next year, and the year after.

Actually this is a fair comparison, since it's a continuation under the same economic and political conditions.

But I'll be happy to provide future updates on President Obama's ratings.


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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:33:13 AM   
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Strange, isn't it, how perception differs from one person to the next? What you see as rabid, I consider to be really rather moderate. Obama is a popular president, but people aren't blind to his appeal, and whilst many may support him in general, I see plenty of examples where they question him for some of his more controversial decisions.

As for his future popularity, only time will tell, so those agents of doom who gleefully predict his downfall are little more than cyber Nostradamuses  .


Mornin kittin,

It's been awhile.

Unfortunately, it doesn't take a psychic to predict what is going to happen.  History has shown us this pattern many times before. uncontrolled spending and borrowing leads to the downfall of a country.  This is the same complaint I had about the last administration, and I will continue to complain about it with this administration.  Granted, Obama's charisma and appeal may be able to deflect some of the blame, but eventually people will be able to see through the smoke and mirrors (usually when it hits them personally in the pocketbooks).

There is nothing short of a complete halt on spending and borrowing that is going to fend off the inflation that is headed our way.  Will that inflation hurt Obama's approval ratings?  Who knows...

I wish you well,
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:37:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cagey18

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

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ORIGINAL: Cagey18

Yup, still averaging in the 60's, right where they've been since he took office: http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

(for comparison, Bush was in the high 20's in 2008: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm )



Actually for a fair comparison, one might want to compare Bush's ratings in his first term (or better yet his first couple of years), not the end of his presidency.

I look forward to seeing your update on Obama's ratings this time next year, and the year after.

Actually this is a fair comparison, since it's a continuation under the same economic and political conditions.

But I'll be happy to provide future updates on President Obama's ratings.




I suppose you are forgetting what Bush's ratings were during that first 18 months... even with the hotly contested election fiasco.  Remember how united this country was come Oct and Nov of Bush's first term?  Ah but let's cherry pick points in time to compare...

Your idea of fair, seems a bit skewed to me...

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:40:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yo Thad. Indeed, long time no see: you missed the election party on collarme. Where were you   ?

I'm not sure about your assessment. I think the electorate is far more savvy than it used to be. I think the general public is aware that we are facing a crisis of unprecedented proportions - I also think that we are witnessing a deep cultural change in America. Fierce individualism is slowly, but surely, disappearing (afterall, it brought us the shit we're in). People won't blame Obama for the stupid mistakes of his predessor - no matter how hard you try to convince them otherwise  .

Time will tell.

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:48:23 AM   
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I suppose you are forgetting what Bush's ratings were during that first 18 months... even with the hotly contested election fiasco.  Remember how united this country was come Oct and Nov of Bush's first term?  Ah but let's cherry pick points in time to compare...

Actually it is you who is cherry-picking, since obviously the country was united after 9/11.  And I suppose you are forgetting how quickly Bush squandered that united feeling, and divided the country with an unnecessary and unprovoked war in Iraq, and ruined foreign relations worldwide.

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Your idea of fair, seems a bit skewed to me...

How is comparing two Presidents under the same economic and political conditions "skewed"?  Oh right, it makes your guy look bad, that must be unfair...


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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 8:57:53 AM   
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I suppose you are forgetting what Bush's ratings were during that first 18 months... even with the hotly contested election fiasco.  Remember how united this country was come Oct and Nov of Bush's first term?  Ah but let's cherry pick points in time to compare...

Actually it is you who is cherry-picking, since obviously the country was united after 9/11.  And I suppose you are forgetting how quickly Bush squandered that united feeling, and divided the country with an unnecessary and unprovoked war in Iraq, and ruined foreign relations worldwide.

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Your idea of fair, seems a bit skewed to me...

How is comparing two Presidents under the same economic and political conditions "skewed"?  Oh right, it makes your guy look bad, that must be unfair...




Obviously, you are new around here.  Bush is far from "my guy".  I have even pointed out that I complained about that administration and it's many issues in this very thread.

The reason that one should look at the start of both administrations, is because you have that honeymoon bump that each new president gets to his ratings.  Too, the economic issues weren't all that rosey during that time either.... remember that big thing called Enron, and the other financial scandals that were occuring?  How about the dot-com bubble bursting?

Enjoy your rosey colored glasses, they aren't skewing your view in the slightest.  If it makes you feel better to look at the ending ratings of Bush and the current ratings of Obama, by all means enjoy.  However don't expect folks like me not to see it for what it is... cheerleading.

I wish you well,
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:03:58 AM   
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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:09:22 AM   
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The reason that one should look at the start of both administrations, is because you have that honeymoon bump that each new president gets to his ratings. 

Funny how this "honeymoon bump" has lasted almost six months now...

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If it makes you feel better to look at the ending ratings of Bush and the current ratings of Obama, by all means enjoy.  However don't expect folks like me not to see it for what it is... cheerleading.

And if it makes you feel better to look at Bush's ratings immediately after 9/11, by all means enjoy.  However don't expect folks like me not to see it for what it is... cheerleading.


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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:25:07 AM   
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The reason that one should look at the start of both administrations, is because you have that honeymoon bump that each new president gets to his ratings. 

Funny how this "honeymoon bump" has lasted almost six months now...

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If it makes you feel better to look at the ending ratings of Bush and the current ratings of Obama, by all means enjoy.  However don't expect folks like me not to see it for what it is... cheerleading.

And if it makes you feel better to look at Bush's ratings immediately after 9/11, by all means enjoy.  However don't expect folks like me not to see it for what it is... cheerleading.



The 3rd week of June will mark 5 months served for our current president.

Perhaps, some of this bailout and stimulus money should be diverted for reading comprehension programs.... ah who am I kidding.

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:40:20 AM   
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The 3rd week of June will mark 5 months served for our current president.

Perhaps, some of this bailout and stimulus money should be diverted for reading comprehension programs.... ah who am I kidding.

Actually I was including his approval ratings from before he took the oath of office--since he was doing far more to tackle the economic crisis (while Bush was still technically President) than do-nothing Bush was.  If anything I'm undercounting the months that Obama's ratings have been high.

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:47:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually to burst the righties bubbles Bush's approvals in June 2001 ranged from 50 to 55 and disapprovals was at about 35 for the whole period. Obama's ratings are therefore at least 5 points better across the board and that is in a much worse economy.

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RE: Yikes! Obama's approval ratings still up. - 6/5/2009 9:55:19 AM   
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Actually to burst the righties bubbles Bush's approvals in June 2001 ranged from 50 to 55 and disapprovals was at about 35 for the whole period. Obama's ratings are therefore at least 5 points better across the board and that is in a much worse economy.


Indeed, now that is a fair representation of the poll numbers.  Just like any other president, Obama's numbers will ebb and flow, up and down, the first 12 months are usually a bit higher than where the average or final numbers will land.

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