NeedToUseYou
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Joined: 12/24/2005 From: None of your business Status: offline
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CloudBoy: Katherine Hepburn had four serious impact affairs over her lifetime. They were not just a series of vapid, empty, sexual adventures --- but key intimate relationships outside of her marriage. She was enriched. I'd call that completely immoral behaviour. Why would you agree to a monogamous marriage if you don't intend to follow through. That's like a Master changing the Hard Limits in a relationship without even discussing with the slave. A hard limit in most marriages is monagomy. So it sounds like your ok with breaking agreements. It's her own selfishness that she can't deal with losing one thing to get another. If she told them and gave her partner a choice to accept it or not, it'd be okay. Or be a frickin adult and get a divorce. The world isn't about any one persons personal gratification. Sorry, that generally subsides around age five. quote:
I don't like a system that transforms her enrichment into a betrayal or moral wrong. Next, when your spouse is enriched, you become enriched as well. The trick is not being possessive and ego centric about one's own marriage --- and not thinking of yourself as the very end of your spouse's frontiers. Key word you don't like. Unfortunately, most people do accept that concept. And I'm perplexed by how come you don't consider that it does work for alot of people. Or ends for reasons totally unrelated to Sex. Most marriages problems are caused by finances not sex anyway. I'm glad it works for you but honestly, It's completely not for me as well as the vast majority of people. Sure alot of people get cheated on, break up. I'm sure poly relationships fall apart just as often for other reasons not present in a standard marriage. Probably a thread running now about it. quote:
Folks sneaking around and "cheating" as others put it, is more a product cultural values and religiously influenced marital expectations whereby people don't feel they have freedoms or choices to exercise. I harken back to KoM, whose wife said to him upon getting married, "I will share you." Right then and there he was liberated, he escaped the trap. If I recall, he was then monogamous with her for some ten (10) years thereafter. Then, he went poly but stayed married. His case is exceptional. Religion has very little to do with it. It's primarly a way of preventing getting diseases. And so daddy doesn't have to go vistit his other three families, and can't take little billy to baseball practice. Sure your going to say oh safe sex. Well, that's absolute fantasy, you screw 3 people over a period of years, a accident will happen, or the eventual, "fuck, I don't have a rubber, Screw it" . Anyway, it's about caring what your doing to other people, not about getting your rocks. But as I said if everyone involved knows the situation. No harm, No foul. But not telling is so obviously unfair. Get a divorce if your not happy. Or tell your parnter and work it out. quote:
As for me, I'm categorically against the lifetime ownership component of marriage. To me its somewhat akin to a Government setting taxes so high that businesses and proprietors lie to get around paying the taxes that would otherwise drive them out of business. So, "cheating" is actually the dirty little secret about marriage as well, its what people do to stay married. Well, then people shouldn't commit to a monogamous marriage then. Similiar to a Master shouldn't enter a contract with his slave, then decide to change the rules without telling the slave. I'm not seeing your point. I think it is you want everyone not to be monogamous, because you hate it for whatever reason. quote:
There are other release valves as well: alcohol, drugs, golf, porn, prostitutes, complaining, anger, resentment, envy, resignation etc..... funny how out of this menu a productive, engaging, extra-marital relationship is "the greatest evil." Yeah, there are evil things in the world(wondering why golf is in there). None of which have anything to do with monogamy. Anyway, Poly isn't for me or alot of other people, but your the only one I ever see that seems to be on a destroy monogamy campaign. I see no one on the board, bashing poly relationships at every turn. Thanks
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