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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 6:10:48 PM   
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I just wonder if this type of crime would have enough irrefutable evidence for a death penalty?

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While I certainly think he deserves it. I can't say I will ever agree to it. For one thing, the appeals cost too much. Its cheaper to keep him locked up for life. Plus killing him gets him off the hook. No suffering.  Give him life and put him in isolation. Play Yentl and Fiddler on the Roof 24/7. Maybe make him work some kind of job and have all his wages, except what it costs to keep him, donated to the Holocaust Museum. I would say give it to the guards family, but I doubt they would want it. 

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 6:14:50 PM   
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Not at all.  His website made it clear that he hates Christians just about as much as Jews and blacks.


No problem, we will just add Roots and King of Kings to the play list.

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 6:15:47 PM   
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Guns and free speech can make for a lethal combination  .

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 6:52:54 PM   
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What was the name of the other thread? Oh, yeah, "Department of Homeland Security Warns of Right Wing Extremist Threats."

Gee, you think?

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 6:56:10 PM   
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Half of all Americans are on that list. Anyone who has even  a flicker of love for this country has been labeled an extremist...

Maybe that's a part of why these guys are going nuts.

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What was the name of the other thread? Oh, yeah, "Department of Homeland Security Warns of Right Wing Extremist Threats."

Gee, you think?


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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 7:13:22 PM   
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Loving america is one thing, killing fellow americans because you are pissed you arent getting your way is beyond sickening and pathetic
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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 7:23:04 PM   
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I'm sure there are plenty on the other side who would be going bat-shit nuts if Obama had lost.


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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 7:36:12 PM   
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Speaking of bat-shit nuts...

Obama's spiritual adviser very recently came back out of the closet, and managed to close the left-right circle in regards to antisemitic extremism:

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Rev. Wright Says 'Them Jews' Won't Let Obama Talk to Him


In a racially charged interview, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright said that President Obama hasn't spoken to him since they parted ways last year, because "them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me."


He suggested White House advisers were keeping the two separate.  "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office," Wright said, according to Virginia's Daily Press. "They will not let him ... talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is."


Obama left Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago last year following the very public controversy over his inflammatory sermons.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/10/wright-suggests-jews-white-house-wont-let-speak-obama/


And if you suffer allergic reactions to FOX News articles, far left CBS News is reporting the same thing:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/10/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5079069.shtml






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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 7:57:47 PM   
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Yup, those hate groups are NFG, all of them.

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/10/2009 8:33:23 PM   
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I just wonder if this type of crime would have enough irrefutable evidence for a death penalty?

Butch



         I think we have all the elements we need.  Plus, he's white, so we can add the hate crime multipliers. 

      

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 4:25:55 AM   
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The gunman disputed that the Holocaust ever happened, and said in the past that the diary of Anne Frank was a work of fiction. Yesterday was Anne Franks 80th birthday and she was being honored at the museum.

He surely spent his entire life causing harm. I just wonder how many victims he actually has...   

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 5:26:11 AM   
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Funny... we put up with eight years of Bush's near dictatorship, without going "bat-shit nuts." (I guess it's just a longer trip for us... whereas the folks on the right are already on the raggedy edge of sanity to begin with.)

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 5:45:48 AM   
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According to this, he in particularly hated "neo-cons" and Bill O'Reilly.

According to this, he hated Bush and was a "9/11 truther".

Yup, "right wing" nut, he sure is.

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 5:48:17 AM   
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The gunman disputed that the Holocaust ever happened, and said in the past that the diary of Anne Frank was a work of fiction. Yesterday was Anne Franks 80th birthday and she was being honored at the museum.

He surely spent his entire life causing harm. I just wonder how many victims he actually has...   


pssssst ~ She was born on June 12th. 

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 5:55:12 AM   
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The gunman disputed that the Holocaust ever happened, and said in the past that the diary of Anne Frank was a work of fiction. Yesterday was Anne Franks 80th birthday and she was being honored at the museum.

He surely spent his entire life causing harm. I just wonder how many victims he actually has...   


pssssst ~ She was born on June 12th. 
oops. i went back and reread. The museum was staging a play based on her life that day.
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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 6:03:28 AM   
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It was going to be a play.  A fictional conversation between Anne Frank and Emmitt Till.  Emmitt Till was an african american killed in a hate crime.

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 6:12:55 AM   
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It was going to be a play.  A fictional conversation between Anne Frank and Emmitt Till.  Emmitt Till was an african american killed in a hate crime.
oh hell...can you imagine how that would have pissed that bastard off?

The Holocaust, a Jew, and an African American.

The fact that both died as young CHILDREN was, of course, irrelevant


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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 6:17:50 AM   
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the part I dont understand is that this nut served 6 years for entering the US Treasury (I think it was) with a gun and attempting to take officials prisoner. This wasnt all that long ago.

then factor in his website and "leisure interests", which I should have thought marked him out as something of a nutjob even without the above incident, and certainly of interest to the likes of Homeland Security.

and yet - he has a rifle in his possession; a weapon which so far at least it would appear he held legally

now I'm a huge supporter of the right to own guns - I hate that we're forbidden in the UK - but it just seems incomprehensible that someone like this should be permitted anything more deadly than a daffodil, and that under supervision.

a salute to the guards and especially the one who died making up for the inadequacies of the authorities.

E

PS - I wonder when he became 88; I cant help but feel his age at the time isnt insignificant here

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 6:18:31 AM   
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Yep...the same lot that locked him up for what?....six or seven years?...for busting into the Federal Reserve.  He went to jail, not for entering the Federal Reserve armed and ready to do battle there...but because a "negro jury" and "jew judge" convicted him.

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RE: Shooting at Holocaust Museum in D.C. - 6/11/2009 6:24:32 AM   
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now I'm a huge supporter of the right to own guns - I hate that we're forbidden in the UK - but it just seems incomprehensible that someone like this should be permitted anything more deadly than a daffodil, and that under supervision.
Lady Ellen,  a rifle can be obtained at the nearest garage sale here. And to the best of my recollection you can purchase one at Walmart without so much as a record check. 

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