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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:28:24 AM   
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Pirate, maybe i jumped the gun, but is seems to me that mentioning people who consider themselves British means the protestant community. That said, I am sorry if I have misinterpreted.

Aneirin, English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh, we all have Celtic roots. This little fact often gets over looked.


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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:29:32 AM   
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...during the great Chicago fire.  Mrs Olearies cow- kicked over a lantern.   1/3 of the city burned to the ground.   Wooden sidewalks-  folks who fled into Lake Michigan perished.  (wind I suppose)

But was it REALLY Mrs Olearies cow?  

No one knows for sure.

So I suppose-  there was glass in the hair of folks that day.     Those terrorist Irish,   man oh man!    Fricken burning down Chicago!

Get over it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chicago_Fire



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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:33:09 AM   
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hunkboy, in this kind of topic, you get just the same kind of "what's it got to do with you and what do you know" stinking ignorance at times as we discussed previously, except it's the other way around. I have heard all the crap in the world about "you just don't understand" (in both directions) ... there are many who won't like me for putting this point, but since it's true, I will.: 
         
           I comment from experience and the first hand experiences of my friends and former enemies (which is not two seperate groups entirely). Without the input of people from around the globe, the problems in the Six Counties would be ongoing without a doubt.The racist scurge of the "British" Irish, which is well documented, has been given oxygen by the lack of action on this issue by "Her Brittanic Majesty's" forces and police.

So any exposure which invites an opinion from elsewhere MUST be positive in anyones eyes who does not condone it?

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:48:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

hunkboy, in this kind of topic, you get just the same kind of "what's it got to do with you and what do you know" stinking ignorance at times as we discussed previously, except it's the other way around. I have heard all the crap in the world about "you just don't understand" (in both directions) ... there are many who won't like me for putting this point, but since it's true, I will.: 
        
          I comment from experience and the first hand experiences of my friends and former enemies (which is not two seperate groups entirely). Without the input of people from around the globe, the problems in the Six Counties would be ongoing without a doubt.The racist scurge of the "British" Irish, which is well documented, has been given oxygen by the lack of action on this issue by "Her Brittanic Majesty's" forces and police.

So any exposure which invites an opinion from elsewhere MUST be positive in anyones eyes who does not condone it?

Pirate


...I am in America. Pennsylvania.   A former colony.  PA is a commonwealth, not a state.  So- I will await the libel lawsuits.  (sarcastic)

...when people piss on me and tell me it is raining-    yikes.   Yeah- the crown corrupts anything it can and the Illuminati own the world.

But come 2013- that won't be the case.      Documented?      Ruppert Murdock will give us bread and circuses.

My anger is over the intentional monetary collapse to bring the world to its knees for the crown.  And Obama should get a swift kick in his azz for frolicking with the queen.  Enough to make me vomit.

Welcome to the board, pleased to meet you BTW.

I get the sense that some don't realize they are being pimped out.   (by the crown)


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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:50:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Pirate, maybe i jumped the gun, but is seems to me that mentioning people who consider themselves British means the protestant community. That said, I am sorry if I have misinterpreted.


That's OK, I blame propaganda ... if you look into it, it was the occupiers who came up with that bollocks and without a doubt they who left us the legacy of religious sectarianism in Ireland. (at least I didn't blame the Queen! ... mind you that's because this time it was the fault of a King )

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Aneirin, English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh, we all have Celtic roots. This little fact often gets over looked.


I second that and am heading off to get a large drink ... because we Celts have a reputation to preserve

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 12:44:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

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There are always people outside of situations, situations that don't concern them


In my opinion, this very much concerns me. Does it concern you?

Aneirin, you're dead right, after all the years of "suffering" at the hands of it's would be "subjects" the UK (which is a crown concept and historicaly VERY new) has NEVER managed to get it's point across, what price global domination eh ? Poor,poor UK. You'd have thought it's poor victims would be eternally grateful for what it did to further the wealth of a bunch of  inbread retards with as much humanity as a housebrick (I guess that kisses goodbye to my free kebab come the coronation?) now wouldn't you? (answer yes to this question and confess by default to condoning genocide and terrorism historicaly perpetrated with abject distain by these creatures ... errr actually  ... not so much BY them as under their "authority" ... they were always kinda busy and doing important things to get their hands dirty [too spineless] and do some killing)

Pirate



Pirate, you forget one thing, before the crown invaded Ireland and subjected it's people to what it has done, it first did it to it's own people. No use going to fight elsewhere, if the people at home are still a problem. England first, Wales next and Scotland after that, the foreign monachy subdued us all, it is only logical that Ireland was next.

The distaste for the monarchy does not just extend to those recently conquered countries, but there are many in England who are the same, at least as was indicated by the English Civil war. Ireland, I see Ireland as Ireland, even though it is two countries, my ancestry comes from there both North and South, Irish so am told that escaped the isles to find work in the Northern mills and there become our present line. The politics of Ireland I understood to be complex, perhaps not something many of us can understand, (us not living there), but whatever the 'cause', no friends are won by killing unarmed civilians that pose no threat, if that was for the cause, then they no wonder they lost my respect.


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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 2:31:47 PM   
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quote:

   an wrote:

Pirate, you forget one thing, before the crown invaded Ireland and subjected it's people to what it has done, it first did it to it's own people. No use going to fight elsewhere, if the people at home are still a problem. England first, Wales next and Scotland after that, the foreign monachy subdued us all, it is only logical that Ireland was next.

The distaste for the monarchy does not just extend to those recently conquered countries, but there are many in England who are the same, at least as was indicated by the English Civil war. Ireland, I see Ireland as Ireland, even though it is two countries, my ancestry comes from there both North and South, Irish so am told that escaped the isles to find work in the Northern mills and there become our present line. The politics of Ireland I understood to be complex, perhaps not something many of us can understand, (us not living there), but whatever the 'cause', no friends are won by killing unarmed civilians that pose no threat, if that was for the cause, then they no wonder they lost my respect.



Thank you for this cogent post.    It makes sense to me.

..my family-  fought on BOTH sides of the US civil war....

It isn't that I endorse bloodshed.    I question authority- I question EVERYTHING.

Of course innocents do not deserve to be harmed.  But you know what?     Each year the US cities compete for murder capital.

...and it a good thing I did not post last night.   The gangs are making headway into my town of 12,000.  I figure 3-4 years and the town is finished.   Where to go? It is everywhere seemingly.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 5:18:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

I see Ireland as Ireland, even though it is two countries,



Then we have a fundamental difference or several, ... I see tribal regions, no "countries" . The island of Ireland is as alien to you as having tea with your monarch.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 5:45:32 PM   
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I like to take the place as a bit more advanced than tribal regions. Why promote an ancient ideal, when it is far easier to move into the present and there the staging post for the future. I am sure many in Ireland want the future, not the past. The future, is for their making, why not let them move on.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 6:18:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
I like to take the place as a bit more advanced than tribal regions.

What could be more "advanced" ? (you're avin' a giraffe surely ?)

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Why promote an ancient ideal, when it is far easier to move into the present and there the staging post for the future. I am sure many in Ireland want the future, not the past. The future, is for their making, why not let them move on.


Your "ancient ideal" is not being "promoted" there is a meaninglessness about the concept of moving into the "present" ... when exactly is that and where do you move to next?

The empire has already collapsed, let it die in peace.

So ... your "staging post" solution to the racial violence and hate campaigns (of as yet to be debated origins) that will "let them move on" is ............ ?

Pirate

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 6:39:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin
I like to take the place as a bit more advanced than tribal regions.

What could be more "advanced" ? (you're avin' a giraffe surely ?)

The treating of people  as people, not some neanderthal from the past

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
Why promote an ancient ideal, when it is far easier to move into the present and there the staging post for the future. I am sure many in Ireland want the future, not the past. The future, is for their making, why not let them move on.


Your "ancient ideal" is not being "promoted" there is a meaninglessness about the concept of moving into the "present" ... when exactly is that and where do you move to next?

The present is  where we are at now, the future is what we make it, the past has gone.

The empire has already collapsed, let it die in peace.

More like rot in hell, Amen

So ... your "staging post" solution to the racial violence and hate campaigns (of as yet to be debated origins) that will "let them move on" is ............ ?

Racial violence is as has already been mentioned here, the work of thugs, nothing more, but where there is poverty and deprivation, the finger of blame is always seeking the newcomer, as if somehow things were better before others turned up, but the reality may be the thugs were at that point not as disgruntled or even organised enough to act on their thoughts of violence. Northern Ireland is not alone in its racial problems, it is a problem common to all countries to a greater or lesser extent.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 6:45:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
The treating of people  as people, not some neanderthal from the past


Are you fucking calling me a neanderthal ?

(regional terminology is being accounted for)

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 6:50:29 PM   
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Well ... ?

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 6:58:06 PM   
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Just as I expected. You have a very royal spine.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 7:23:47 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL3ItjL7Ku8   here is a vid by a regular guy.  "the optimism bubble"

...to understand my rage- this video sums it up.    There is plenty of blame to go around......    a 6 minute vid.   A regular guy. Not an expert.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0k73gTZvzQ   6-19  Bob Chapman- Alex Jones- financial dictatorship.  ...timely interview


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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 8:06:35 PM   
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Put it like this ... over here we have the same problem ... except we also have a non-elected head of state (plus family in hundreds) too costing us shite loads and never speaking any sense, they would have absolutely no ethnic claim whatsoever to any Belfast related geneology (and next to none in these islands) and yet people are persecuted there in their name. Ignorance is something these kind of parasites FEED on, you will only be welcome if you are stupid and gullible or one of the well disciplined subjects who does their dirty work for them.

What Aneirin unwittingly perpetuates is an unforgiving propaganda that's been going on for as long as your country has been founded and more.

I shall look forward to celebrating (except the dead count) the Brits being sent packing from America ... as usual ... shame the inbreads never learned much from the experience though [too shit scared].

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 9:35:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

Put it like this ... over here we have the same problem ... except we also have a non-elected head of state (plus family in hundreds) too costing us shite loads and never speaking any sense, they would have absolutely no ethnic claim whatsoever to any Belfast related geneology (and next to none in these islands) and yet people are persecuted there in their name. Ignorance is something these kind of parasites FEED on, you will only be welcome if you are stupid and gullible or one of the well disciplined subjects who does their dirty work for them.

What Aneirin unwittingly perpetuates is an unforgiving propaganda that's been going on for as long as your country has been founded and more.

I shall look forward to celebrating (except the dead count) the Brits being sent packing from America ... as usual ... shame the inbreads never learned much from the experience though [too shit scared].

Pirate


The psychological warfare, psy ops is in gear.   The boob tube- TV, main stream corporate media, is the peril we allow into our homes and life.

There will be plenty of distraction.   Fake issues- divide and conquer.

As of today I see the govt being disorganized- and the people-- same.   Both are woefully inept.   So as of today we have a stand off.

This post- - the media re-directs the attention to the thugs per the incident.   So- it would appear the UK media has gotten as pathetic as American media.

....the thing is their tactics do not vary too much.  But over the centuries the people fall for it again and again- and dumb-azz Americans- are ....  dancing with the stars, britany idol-Jerry Springer- Billy Mayes-  ask your dr if the TV set is right for you. 

At one time- UK TV seemed more thoro and intelligent.   ...per haps that is changing.

The train wreck is coming.   So the distractions are...   a tool of the grid.
Still- the griid is too bloated and discombobulated-  give it a year or 2 then one or the other will break.      People worry they are coming for the guns.  DUH!  Whom do you think provides the world WITH arms?   

We do.

It wont be guns it will be a bio germ.    I recall the stand off at the theator in Russia- they gassed them with an opiod-seditive- ...rather interesting approach.

Bread and circuses.       Even if we got it toghether this very second- it would be 20 years- to see any signs of progress.

Over the past-  .....1971  we made our beds- or in this matter- soiled in our beds.  Now we are about to deal with it.  (71 off the gold standard)  73, oil 30 year contracts- 2003 invaded Iraq.      ....Huge oil reserves in America-  to be used to keep Russia in Check...or whomever.    See Lindsey Williams.

JerRYYYYYYYYYYY JerRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY   JERRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyEE

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 9:47:39 PM   
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Pardon me, Pirate;









Pass me the Grey Poupon?




/snip

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:32:37 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEJMiSA2zc8   to follow up on my Eugenics comment.   Death could be "classified".

Notice how after he reads the bill-- the law maker announces it had been reviewed.    hmmmp!



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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/21/2009 10:06:46 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEJMiSA2zc8   to follow up on my Eugenics comment.   Death could be "classified".

Notice how after he reads the bill-- the law maker announces it had been reviewed.    hmmmp


Disregard that vid.   ...it was a spoof.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/108963/Youths-charged-over-racist-attacks     ok- they have 2 arrests here.   age 15 and 16.      thugs.   ....young males do dumb things.  

Happens in PA hourly.        

......the town I live in...  I see trouble ahead.    Hispanic gang vs black gang- tho the white motorcycle gang adds to the puzzle.

3-4 years I figure.     Maybe we can stall it.  I did not crime watch patrol last night-=--  things looked good. where as Thursday they did not.

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