Loki45
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
You have no idea what my "position" is or what my life experiences have been. Suffice it to say, however, that the lives of military service folk are apparently not nearly as cosmic and mysterious to me as they seem to be to you. For example, if you think West Point is directly equivalent to boot camp? You are grossly and appallingly misinformed.
You're the one who is misinformed. And you CONTINUE to insert words into my mouth. Once again, if you can show me the word-for-word statement where I said West Point is directly equivelent to boot camp, I'll give you a cookie and a pat on the head, darlin'.
I said they were similar. But in fact, West Point is MUCH harder. It's not only a college enviroment, it's also a 4-year boot camp-style environment.
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
As for the ease and the indolence that you imagine in the lives of those seeking and performing in political office--"cocktail parties" etc--once again, your ignorance is obvious. There is nothing easy about running for any public office, but especially one as high as that of U.S. Senator. Holding that office for years at a time and maintaining the state's record for the largest number of popular votes in any election is also not easy. And you can quadruple the difficulty if you are the wrong gender in a backward, anti-progressive country like the USA.
And of course we *all* know that our senators and congressmen have *all* gotten to where they are today strictly on the up-and-up and engaging in NOOOO shady business whatsoever, right?
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
And you can quadruple the difficulty if you are the wrong gender in a backward, anti-progressive country like the USA.
Yeah we're so backward that we had a woman vs a (half) black man competing for the democratic nomination. We're so "backward" that we had a woman on a ticket as a vp.
Yep, we're backward alright. Where's your burka?? 
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
The accusation of "misandry" is nonsense. I enjoy men and I spend a lot of time in their company. However, I am a completely non-apologetic feminist,
Surely you jest. That is why you and I will NEVER agree on this or....I'm sure quite a few topics.
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
A female doctor can legitimately expect to be called "Doctor"; a female senator can legitimately expect to be called "Senator". A female president could legitimately expect to be called "Madame President", if we were to elect one.
And any one of those women should keep their "big girl panties" on when someone says "Well Ma'am" or "yes "Ma'am." Just like a man does when someone calls him Sir.
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
As to whether she liked "ma'am"? Some women like it, some women do not.
And since no one is a mind-reader, one must weigh the 'benefits' of rudely interrupting to correct a 'title' rather than just focus on the topic at hand.
You know what I find 'telling?' Your rabid stance of "see see, the men do it, so she can too!"
There was a time when the term "lady" meant something. A lady is not a lady strictly because she's a woman. In the past there were charm schools, actual formalized training to attain and maintain th status of a LADY.
So men have done it. It's clear to me that you have a level of misandry that you are unaware of. And because of that, you think it's "ok" for this to have happened because the big bad men do it all the time. That's like a young one telling mom "But johnny did it, why can't I? To which the mom ALWAYS repies "If johnny jumped off a bridge, would you?"
We can point to any number of rude individuals in this world, regardless of their job, title, status, etc. But when we use that behavior to justify what we do....we're no better than them.
See, in your incessant rants, what I see is that you do, in fact find an aspect of rudeness when the men do it. But rather than hold a fellow woman to a higher standard, you use the men's actions to justify what she did. If people use the widely-known saying "men are pigs" are you now saying it's ok for a woman to be a pig as well?
I mean, if that's your position, you're certainly entitled to it. But if by my very gender, I am a pig, I will be damned certain that I will not be attracted to, nor give attention to a woman I deem as "piggish" as me.
< Message edited by Loki45 -- 6/27/2009 2:30:02 PM >
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Even more disturbing, 2 weeks later we're still sitting here kicking this around without a single new perspective to speak on, and yet the arguing continues. 
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