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GreedyTop -> Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 9:01:16 AM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McNamara



DemonKia -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 9:08:24 AM)

Wow. Serious, major historical figure.

Much of the documentary "Fog of War" (of which Mr. McNamara is a significant part) is on YouTube, & it is fascinating. Here's the first segment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOoOcIFhaoA



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 9:10:41 AM)

here's teh AP article about it:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090706/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obit_mcnamara



ienigma777 -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 9:11:50 AM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/recent_deaths

GEEZUS....ya think there might be other people dying? This death/dying thing could start a trend.



DemonKia -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 9:13:01 AM)

I admired that he was able to admit that he got it wrong about Vietnam. That's something courageous & unusual . . . . . . Especially from members of the power elite.



pahunkboy -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 11:13:04 AM)

I never heard of the guy.

I have heard of Vietnam tho, and how it will never happen again.



sophia37 -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 11:27:37 AM)

We have to add him to that list that someone started the other day about everyone who has died recently. Its a trend I tell'y. Not a fad. 



windchymes -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 3:13:42 PM)

I'm getting really creeped out by all these octogenerians who are dying.....[8|]



DemonKia -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 3:44:30 PM)

A very tongue-in-cheek reply to windchymes: technically McNamara was a nonagenarian . . . . . . [;)]



mnottertail -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 5:01:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

I'm getting really creeped out by all these octogenerians who are dying.....[8|]


Well, he made it past the octo part, he was 93.......what is that? Septagenarian?
No.....it would be the latin for nine........nevertheless.
Only the good die young..............

Billy Joel



windchymes -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 5:29:02 PM)

You're right, I saw he was born in 1916 and my brain came up with 80-some years, lol.  But, in my defense, I was also including several deaths we've had lately of the older bunch....Ed McMahon, Gale Storm...etc.   If you average them out, it's 80-something, right??? [&:]

Septuagenarian is the 70-year-old bunch. 90 is.......just fuckin' old. [:D]



mnottertail -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 5:51:06 PM)

OK, so old folks squick you.........tell you what I'm gonna do.......your last blowjob for me will be my 89th birthday............that's your limit, I have heard you and will respect that.

Dorian Gray



thornhappy -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 6:11:40 PM)

It be nonagenarian...and we'll be sure to arrange the blow job for ya!



mnottertail -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 6:25:55 PM)

I shall carry my birth certificate upon my person, all the days of my life.

MacDonald Carey



windchymes -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 6:41:41 PM)

Here, hold my dentures now, will ya, sonny?  [:D]



servantforuse -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 7:51:53 PM)

We probably would have won the war in VietNam if that idiot wasn't secretary of defense. Instead everyone knows what happened . 



mnottertail -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 7:58:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

We probably would have won the war in VietNam if that idiot wasn't secretary of defense. Instead everyone knows what happened . 


LOL.

Prithee, what Secretary of Defense could have been installed that could have won that war?

you kill me.



servantforuse -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 8:04:00 PM)

A secretary that was pro military, and not a pollitsion. Kennedy started it. Johnson and Mcnamara screwed it up and Nixon ended it..



subfever -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 8:07:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I have heard of Vietnam tho, and how it will never happen again.



Yup, the PTB learned from their mistake. If you want to sustain a war without your natives growing too restless and withdrawing their support, you must first create a bigger, better, more believable boogy-man.



mnottertail -> RE: Robert McNamara dead (7/6/2009 8:12:53 PM)

Well..........that's just not so.

Eisenhower 'started' it, Kennedy continued it, Johnson escalated it, Nixon escalated it, and then ended it.

It would be a marvel that the world has never seen were we to entitle a Secretary of Defense that was not political.  (BTW, McNamara was CEO of Ford and not a politician before his appointment)

So, how about someone like Paris Hilton for Secretary of Defense?  She appears rather apolitical.

War is an extension of politics, by other means.

Sun Tzu, Clauswitz, et al. 




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