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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 7:49:27 PM   
Venatrix


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I wish we had Yiddish over here. 


Honestly, Peon, you are utterly beyond hope.  You can get a BA with honours in Yiddish at the University of London:

http://london.floodlight.co.uk/london/course-details-reviews/university-college-london-ucl-university-of-london/yiddish-modern-languages-4-years-ba-hons/16180339/32610080/course-info.html

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 8:11:45 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Thank you, peon and RedMagic.

Peace to you as well, mal.  We're not ever going to agree on everything, but darn near any two people can find at least one thing in common. 


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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 8:19:07 PM   
MarcEsadrian


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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
Perhaps if people paused for a moment to absorb the full scope, they wouldn't jump at the chance to generalize so negatively.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Yes, it is a terrible trait of Mine. When I see a lack of where I would set M(y) standards, I have no issue with saying so.]

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
By your own admission, you cannot see the full scope of the relationship in question, so why do you feel so empowered to judge?]

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Because a message board would be a damn boring place if no one ever offered an opinion.  Just as anyone else had the right to make state such personal opinions about Me, if they chose. In fact. that has happened on this thread as well.  More than once remarks have been made because My sub is not here with Me, which is related to his service to his country.  Information that <gasp> has been obtained  from information supplied by the message boards. 


I often find fully enlightened opinions are the most productive ones, but never mind that. I suppose then that in the spirit of sharing opinions, I'll say that often what I see isn't so much opinion, but judgment and negative insinuations on these boards. I find that to be the boring thing, in fact.

So there's money involved. Big deal. The presence of this exchange is no more an indication of a "strict business arrangement" than welts on someone's backside is indication of "domestic abuse". It's funny how alt lifestylers so readily understand the latter but have difficulty with anything having to do with money. Tithing, tributes, extreme material sacrifice—it's so often all par for the course with men who serve. And while I'm on that, who cares if it's a business arrangement, anyway? What's the big deal? The bottom line is, you have little clue about who you're really talking about, and so cynically reading the tea leaves about a relationship dynamic based on what is "revealed" on a message board amounts to little more than hot air.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 8:46:11 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
I often find fully enlightened opinions are the most productive ones, but never mind that. I suppose then that in the spirit of sharing opinions, I'll say that often what I see isn't so much opinion, but judgment and negative insinuations on these boards. I find that to be the boring thing, in fact.

So there's money involved. Big deal. The presence of this exchange is no more an indication of a "strict business arrangement" than welts on someone's backside is indication of "domestic abuse". It's funny how alt lifestylers so readily understand the latter but have difficulty with anything having to do with money. Tithing, tributes, extreme material sacrifice—it's so often all par for the course with men who serve. And while I'm on that, who cares if it's a business arrangement, anyway? What's the big deal? The bottom line is, you have little clue about who you're really talking about, and so cynically reading the tea leaves about a relationship dynamic based on what is "revealed" on a message board amounts to little more than hot air.


Let's see.  I believe mal and I have already agreed to put an end to the disagreement.  I'm quite sorry that you would like to continue, while he and I have agreed that we will not.

However, thank you for your interpretation of the matter.  Thank you for your judgment of My judgment.

Be well.


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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 10:15:39 PM   
MarcEsadrian


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
I often find fully enlightened opinions are the most productive ones, but never mind that. I suppose then that in the spirit of sharing opinions, I'll say that often what I see isn't so much opinion, but judgment and negative insinuations on these boards. I find that to be the boring thing, in fact.

So there's money involved. Big deal. The presence of this exchange is no more an indication of a "strict business arrangement" than welts on someone's backside is indication of "domestic abuse". It's funny how alt lifestylers so readily understand the latter but have difficulty with anything having to do with money. Tithing, tributes, extreme material sacrifice—it's so often all par for the course with men who serve. And while I'm on that, who cares if it's a business arrangement, anyway? What's the big deal? The bottom line is, you have little clue about who you're really talking about, and so cynically reading the tea leaves about a relationship dynamic based on what is "revealed" on a message board amounts to little more than hot air.


Let's see.  I believe mal and I have already agreed to put an end to the disagreement.  I'm quite sorry that you would like to continue, while he and I have agreed that we will not.

However, thank you for your interpretation of the matter.  Thank you for your judgment of My judgment.

Be well.


Let's see. I could care less if you two kissed and made up. But I accept the cop-out and well wishes.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 10:27:48 PM   
hardbodysub


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Let's see. I could care less if you two kissed and made up. But I accept the cop-out and well wishes.


How confusing. If you "could care less", then you obviously care. Otherwise your caring couldn't be diminished. However, the tone of your statement makes it appear that you're trying to say that you DON'T care. Gee, the English language is tough, isn't it?

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 11:25:24 PM   
MarcEsadrian


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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

How confusing. If you "could care less", then you obviously care. Otherwise your caring couldn't be diminished. However, the tone of your statement makes it appear that you're trying to say that you DON'T care. Gee, the English language is tough, isn't it?


You are full of win, my love.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 11:43:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
You are full of win, my love.
 LOL.     M

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/13/2009 11:49:59 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Hey, if there's male on male love going on here, I definitely want to be a part of it.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/14/2009 12:18:26 AM   
petmonkey


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Status: offline 		when i think of "service submission", i think of my brief  life as a resident house elf for a hetero couple i adored.  This included baking, house chores, pet care, light handyman tasks, giving creative problem-solving advice, being a good listener and being an entertaining sub-ish friend for Her sub/switch boy when She was busy.  Sex acts were not involved, it was expected i find that elsewhere.  The goal was to keep Her brow from being furrowed. The benefit was a sense of balance, belonging and contentment. The reward was praise and gratitude for a job well done.

Good times.


< Message edited by petmonkey -- 7/14/2009 12:22:51 AM >

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/14/2009 5:37:27 AM   
hardbodysub


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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian


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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

How confusing. If you "could care less", then you obviously care. Otherwise your caring couldn't be diminished. However, the tone of your statement makes it appear that you're trying to say that you DON'T care. Gee, the English language is tough, isn't it?


You are full of win, my love.


Ick! You are full of love, my win.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/14/2009 7:17:25 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		More like full of arrogant snark........but that is just MY judgement.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/14/2009 8:54:48 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		Well, we already know that I heart LeeAnn, but dingadang Peon, you made me smile big time!!

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/17/2009 5:22:02 PM   
Reigna


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Status: offline 		My sub rankles at the merest murmur of the words, "service submissive." It's a shame, really, because I've always fantasized owning a clean freak to keep my digs pristine. Alas. From what I can tell, the sub at hand never wakes up in the morning hoping to be ordered to clean the bathroom, although he does a quite creditable job when told to do so. And he really does look fetching in his maid's uniform; often when he wears it I end up fucking him silly, which in my world makes up for the lack of "Please let me lick your toilet bowl clean Ma'am" dynamic.

We are in sweltering summer at the moment. (Not complaining; I don't feel I've experienced summer unless I've sweltered for at least a couple of weeks.) Despite the heat, my sub spent last weekend on the roof of my house--not in his maid uniform--scraping moss and re-gluing asphalt shingles with a brush and a pot of nasty-looking black stuff. In deference to his feelings--I'm not mean all the time!--I am not calling him a "service submissive." Instead, I'm calling him "a submissive who prefers to spend the winter in a house whose roof isn't leaking."

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/19/2009 1:40:36 PM   
Mistressbinature


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ORIGINAL: marie2

It means that we act like we're into cleaning their apartment for them, when what we really want is to snoop through their shit.


ROTFLMAO

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/20/2009 7:24:03 AM   
cloudboy


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It makes me think of the bald guy who is always around that shakey woman in True Love. She's as much called him a service submissive. He enjoys serving because that's his own thing -- for most people serving is a kind of sacrifice.

Sometimes service subs are looked down on for this very reason as women tend to prefer men devoted to more than just menial tasks and butler-style duties. Its a tricky line between being an interesting male and a stepford one. Too much of one and you're a "do-me" sub, too much of the other and you're a dweeb.

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/20/2009 7:33:09 AM   
MsStarlett


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Status: offline 		Where did MarcEsadrian come from?  He's just delightful.  Almost as much fun as Peon.

Added - Should I take a number to spank him?

< Message edited by MsStarlett -- 7/20/2009 7:34:06 AM >

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/20/2009 10:40:51 PM   
LPslittleclip


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i am a service oriented sub. for me that is doing what pleases my M'Lady. it does not hurt that i like to cook and clean, make fresh French crapes and Belgian style waffles for Her. but that is me and it will be different for others as well. for some they may hay skills in management and would find pleasure id getting all the bills organized and paid on time and such. I'm also hyperactive so i do lots of different things and am a morning person. i just get pleasure from my M'Lady being happy so thats what it means to me.

LPs_littleclip

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 7/20/2009 10:52:11 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		And I always am, lil one.  I always am.

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Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

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RE: "Service" Submissive - 8/3/2009 5:24:15 AM   
ignoreme


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I see this phrase in many profiles - and it seems there are as many definitions to it as there are people who throw it around.  What does it mean to you? 

Willing to do a service for a dominant lady without expecting anything back.

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