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Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 9:06:22 AM

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I have this mood I get into now and then where I want to make a guy do things to himself while I watch. I could be sitting right next to him or pacing around him, perfectly capable of doing it to him myself - but I find the fact that he's forced to cause HIMSELF discomfort to be really arousing. I may pleasure myself while I watch him, to keep him encouraged and make him feel like a sex object, or I might just sit there and watch. I may give orders to make him do it faster, harder or more painfully, or threaten to 'really' hurt him if he doesn't do it right.

I'm being vague on what "it" is, because it can vary - it's whatever is most painful or uncomfortable for the man. It may be humiliating, like fucking himself with a dildo, it may be painful (like cbt or extreme nipple torture) or it might be helplessness -- fastening on his own restraints when I have the key, or snapping on the handcuffs knowing that once they are on, he isn't going anywhere.

Do other femdoms enjoy making their subs do things to themselves right in front of you?

Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 9:10:34 AM

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Do other femdoms enjoy making their subs do things to themselves right in front of you?

I do this quite often and I find it very pleasurable. Because sometimes some of the things I have him do, embarrasses him. I can actually see his cheeks get red from the humiliation and even though a part of him hates it, another part LOVES it and craves it deeply. To me that is a turn on to know that I have that much power over him.

Oh yes it is lots of fun, I enjoy it very much and so does he.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 12:51:36 PM

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Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

yes, being made to do it myself would make me both more vulerable, and probably get me faster into the headspace She wanted. for me personally, i couldnt involve Pain tho... ive far to much a self-destructive streek for that to be healthy in the long term.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 4:32:19 PM

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Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

Akasha

Good question Ma`am. If she tells me to do something to myself, then she is indeed doing it to me. Physically she isnt but mentally she is in control, right off the bat. In many ways it makes me feel more used, as i would prefer her to do it. The fact doing it myself pleases her is hot in its own right.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 5:11:05 PM

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Since Mistress and I have to spend so much time apart from each other, webcam play of this kind is a good stopgap for both of our sexual energies. Not quite as good as the real thing, but still fun.

Never done it when we've been physically together, but I think it's something we should experiment with. Feelings of helplessness and being used by Her are sooo yummy. ^__^

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/14/2009 10:22:07 PM

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Interesting and love the concept. I have not incorporated this, but defintely plan to now. The Examples were very helpful.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 12:50:47 AM

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Oh yes! I enjoy this type of play. I hadn't thought much about it until my sub mentioned he fantasized about being humiliated. I thought, what could be better than watching him do things to himself? Well, I can think of other things but it is fairly early in our relationship...

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 4:54:00 AM

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Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

I would comply if asked but would much prefer for a domme to do so. As I ponder why, I think it is because coming directly from her it represents a greater connection, and I prefer that that is directly delivered over that that is indirectly delivered. Along the same lines, I respond more to things done with hands than things done with implements like floggers.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 5:03:45 AM

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That actually sounds interesting. It took me a while to find anyone to do any of this stuff with, so I spent a lot of hours doing things to myself. However, that was limited by my own imagination and what I felt like I was willing to do. Having someone else in control of that while physically present adds a whole new dimension.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 11:59:19 AM

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I love incorporating this type of play. I especially enjoy this while looking him straight in the eye, and there are other people watching us play.

Last weekend we went to a private party. A good friend had a Violet Wand, with the attachment that I could hold in one hand, while using a pom-pom-like flogger ( the tails were like tinsel). He was jumping around giggling as I used it on his sides and backside, but then I had him stand up and face Me.

Without skipping a beat I held it out in front of me and told him to 'Step into It' as I was curious about the sensational effect on the front bits. His eyes got round as saucers, but he didn't hesitate and it was a sincerely beautiful moment; *grin* and he liked it too.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 12:31:12 PM

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It was a beautiful moment.

There is a moment that you can share with your dominant when they ask you to do something that you know is going to hurt. You receive the command, you process it, taking in all the input - she wants me to step purposefully into the electric shocky thing, people are watching, that thing is right in front of my crotch, fuck that's going to hurt, I Love You - and you look her directly in the eye and step forward...it is a beautiful, rubber meets the road, moment.

It also hurt like a motherfucker!

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 1:08:25 PM

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Do other femdoms enjoy making their subs do things to themselves right in front of you?

Nope.... im a sadist first and foremost... i like to be the one inflicting

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 1:30:36 PM

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Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

So long as she looks excited, it works for me. Yes, the added 'used and helpless' is good. On the other hand, e.g., "Right, you tie this rope on your scrotum while I go out shopping" would be a downer.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 1:37:37 PM

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Along the same lines, I respond more to things done with hands than things done with implements like floggers.

Oh yes. With you there. It's come to my attention, however, that quite a few femdoms feel themselves to be too weedy to inflict much of an impression without some implement or another.

If I had the opportunity, I'd teach my hypothetical domme a few judo and ju-jitsu holds I learned at school. Yum.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 2:01:16 PM

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I enjoy it with a number of types of play and for a number of reasons, in person or not. It just makes me smile thinking about it! I have even taken pictures and found that added a bit of spice. hehe Got some of my new bedroom remodel with a number of mirror's. Very interesting!

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 6:30:40 PM

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Without skipping a beat I held it out in front of me and told him to 'Step into It' as I was curious about the sensational effect on the front bits. His eyes got round as saucers, but he didn't hesitate and it was a sincerely beautiful moment; *grin* and he liked it too.

Ah. I can see why you enjoyed your scenario. I imagined a sub who was told to start flogging himself, or the types of play that one might see done over the phone ;-)

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 6:36:10 PM

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I recently purchased a Violet Wand. I was under the impression that there was something we could do with this that involved having my boy hold a rod while I zapped him. As long as he held the rod, the torture would continue. I would be VERY interested in this method of having a boy be an active participant in his discomfort.

I'll start another thread about that soon, rather than hi jack this one.

I started out on mIRC and CUSeeMe channels. I've spent a lot of time watching men do things to themselves. Frankly, I'm rather bored with it. Although, as mentioned, anything where he and I are BOTH active participants does interest me.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/15/2009 10:43:07 PM

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All I need is to do is use my thumb and forefinger in a pinching motion in a particularly sensitive spot. I don't even need to exert much pressure if the finger nail is engaged. It generally has the boy's full and undivided attention. *smile* I can do that for hours and have a great time.

If you want details, you can ask Otter.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/16/2009 9:38:42 AM

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Do other femdoms enjoy making their subs do things to themselves right in front of you?

Subs - does this kind of 'forced self torture' make you feel more used and helpless, and is therefore more exciting, or do you long for HER to do the things to you?

Akasha

Yes, but the source of his excitement stems from seeing me amused by his pain and helpless state and pleased by the sacrifices he makes for me. From a philosophical prospective, one can say I'm doing things to him either way. If there is a disconnect in this regard, and he is in need of a cardboard cut-out "Mistress" to initiate his own self-gratification under the guise of "force", then I am in essence nothing more than a Top.

Ps. Enjoyed your story "Foot Fetish Frankie" posted on Sardax's website.

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RE: Making a sub torture himself while you watch - 7/16/2009 10:15:30 AM

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All I need is to do is use my thumb and forefinger in a pinching motion in a particularly sensitive spot. I don't even need to exert much pressure if the finger nail is engaged. It generally has the boy's full and undivided attention. *smile* I can do that for hours and have a great time.

If you want details, you can ask Otter.

I don't think I need to, Sthrn. There are a few spots on my body on which a little pressure from a woman's finger and thumb would have the effect you outline. And much more so if nails were involved. As so often, my general overall view is ouch/wow in equal measure.

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