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ORIGINAL: SweetNika

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl

Annually, compared to males, females experienced over 10 times as many incidents of violence by an intimate. On average each year, women experienced 572,032 violent victimizations at the hands of an intimate, compared to 48,983 incidents committed against men. (p. 6)

http://www.aardvarc.org/dv/statistics.shtml#cites

Arent those simply reported instances? I personally think far more men don't report domestic abuse than the number of women that don't b/c of the social stigma or social expectations of men. (if that makes sense) so I am not sure those numbers are always accurate.

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl
But it's not surprising at all to me that we are all still talking about that guy's dick and none of us are talking about the dead women that Geroge Sodoni killed because he felt like women didn't put out and love him enough, as if just by existing women owed him sex and affection.

Compare that. Multiple female lives vs one guy's penis.

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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But it's not surprising at all to me that we are all still talking about that guy's dick and none of us are talking about the dead women that Geroge Sodoni killed because he felt like women didn't put out and love him enough, as if just by existing women owed him sex and affection.

Compare that. Multiple female lives vs one guy's penis.

Big difference. He was a mass-murderer. That's not a domestic violence act.

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It all contributes to a culture where I am afraid every time my doorknob rattles, every time I leave the house, every time I meet a new fellow for a date, and where you are clearly very, very unhappy with how things go. We can do better for both men and women.

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl
It all contributes to a culture where I am afraid every time my doorknob rattles, every time I leave the house, every time I meet a new fellow for a date, and where you are clearly very, very unhappy with how things go. We can do better for both men and women.

Why are you afraid every time you leave the house or the doorknob rattles? Have you never learned to defend yourself?

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It's a function of knowing that while I could probably defend myself, I might not be able to, and that my risk is not only from random strangers, but from former romantic relationships, workers at my apartment complex, co-workers, etc. It's knowing that the vast majority of women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime, and having been a victim of sexual assault in the past. It's knowing that as a woman alone, I am a good target for a purse snatcher or a rapist. It's having a history of assault by known men, and knowing how easy it would be for that to happen again.

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl
It's a function of knowing that while I could probably defend myself, I might not be able to, and that my risk is not only from random strangers, but from former romantic relationships, workers at my apartment complex, co-workers, etc. It's knowing that the vast majority of women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime, and having been a victim of sexual assault in the past. It's knowing that as a woman alone, I am a good target for a purse snatcher or a rapist. It's having a history of assault by known men, and knowing how easy it would be for that to happen again.

Being female doesn't mean you have to be a victim. Considering the state you live in, a simple gun on your hip would deter most from targeting you. Learning how to use it properly would deter the rest, if posthumously.

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl
I'm not going to get into a gun argument with you here. There's a whole other thread about it! Notice I haven't posted in that one. ;)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl
I'm not going to get into a gun argument with you here. There's a whole other thread about it! Notice I haven't posted in that one. ;)

Well, if it's any consolation, I know another woman in Az who carries openly and is also very aware of being a woman. She takes classes and practices regularly 'just in case.'

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:) I know lots of people who do. I might get a taser.

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It's funny how guys are suddenly "wronged" in the justice system in this case and yet, in every other facet of life they have the societal advantage. Guess they have to have the advantage here as well.

Here's one more link for you about the "societal advantage" we men have...

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25898.aspx

BTW your article admits to the consent of the boy who got the girl pregnant. The enforcement of child support payments is based on the consent of the individuals involved. The boy consented to sex as stated in your article.

http://www.pay-equity.org/

Here's the link to the efforts of getting equal pay for the same job. Let's not get into the traditional hiring gap.

boi

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ORIGINAL: cornflakegirl

Annually, compared to males, females experienced over 10 times as many incidents of violence by an intimate. On average each year, women experienced 572,032 violent victimizations at the hands of an intimate, compared to 48,983 incidents committed against men. (p. 6)

http://www.aardvarc.org/dv/statistics.shtml#cites

Arent those simply reported instances? I personally think far more men don't report domestic abuse than the number of women that don't b/c of the social stigma or social expectations of men. (if that makes sense) so I am not sure those numbers are always accurate.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
It's funny how guys are suddenly "wronged" in the justice system in this case and yet, in every other facet of life they have the societal advantage. Guess they have to have the advantage here as well.

Here's one more link for you about the "societal advantage" we men have...

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25898.aspx

BTW your article admits to the consent of the boy who got the girl pregnant. The enforcement of child support payments is based on the consent of the individuals involved. The boy consented to sex as stated in your article.

http://www.pay-equity.org/

Here's the link to the efforts of getting equal pay for the same job. Let's not get into the traditional hiring gap.

boi

The article is rather brief and no doubt leaves out a fair amount of information, and probably fact. I did not, however, see anything that states the boy consented. I'm a little befuddled how you've come to that conclusion.

Uncle Nasty

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Nothing acquired during a marriage is individually owned in the eyes of the law.  That goes for the car as well as the cell phone.

If that's true, you just sealed it for me. There will never be a marriage in my future. I'm not giving my house or my car to anyone.

It's not true in every state or in every situation.

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The judge acknowledged a possible double-standard with the sentencing. If the incident involved a man who committed similar acts against an unwilling woman, that man would doubtless face prison time, Judge Donald Poppy said.

But in this case the victim and his "bad behavior" were partly to blame, he said.

The victim "started the ball rolling, philandering with others besides his wife, who was putting bread on the table and taking care of his children," the judge said.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

For anyone who is interested, the case was finally adjudicated. None of the women will serve any time, they all got probation, community service and suspended jail time.

Wisconsin Women Avoid Jail in Glue Revenge Plot

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Um... wow. From the article:

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The judge acknowledged a possible double-standard with the sentencing. If the incident involved a man who committed similar acts against an unwilling woman, that man would doubtless face prison time, Judge Donald Poppy said.

But in this case the victim and his "bad behavior" were partly to blame, he said.

The victim "started the ball rolling, philandering with others besides his wife, who was putting bread on the table and taking care of his children," the judge said.

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I think some rape victims, trauma counsellors, and well heck just about anybody should be shaking their heads at the judge's 'victim behavior' stance. Not a good precedence. Philanderers beware.