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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:18:55 PM

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so your only argument is that discovery chan reported and you don't care at all if it is true or not? lame

I didn't have an argument. I was laughing at you, because you did something stupid. That's all.

Really wasn't worth the amount of effort I put into then attempting to explain that to you.

I'm not going to respond to you any more.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:25:00 PM

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I didn't have an argument. I was laughing at you, because you did something stupid. That's all.

You took up 2 pages doing off topic discussion with the sole intent to derail the thread?

That is so fail.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:31:26 PM

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I didn't have an argument. I was laughing at you, because you did something stupid. That's all.

You took up 2 pages doing off topic discussion with the sole intent to derail the thread?

That is so fail.

No-I made one comment, after he had started arguing with two other people. He jumped on it half a page later.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:33:06 PM

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No-I made one comment, after he had started arguing with two other people. He jumped on it half a page later.

By my count 8 posts on the last 2 pages plus that top one all saying the same thing.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:36:56 PM

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and conclusion of this long boring dribble is that pro dommes sexually satisfy men in exchange for their money, which just happens to be exactly same definition as for the oldest profession known to mankind, the so called whoring.

And your point is? What exactly is wrong or immoral about two consenting adults choosing to trade sex (whether it's actual PIV sex or not) for money? If you have no interest in participating in such transactions, then don't. But there are a large number of consenting adults who do choose to participate, and frankly I don't think it's anyone else's concern. If you don't like brussels sprouts, don't buy them, but it's pretty silly to picket supermarkets that sell them because you don't approve of them on your dinner table.

Sex sells, whether we're talking about marketing a beer brand, a type of car or a television show. Are all TV and movie actresses whores, by your standards? How about swimsuit models? An attractive woman who appears in a Budweiser beer commercial? A male underwear model for a catalog? If not, what's the difference between what they do and what a pro domme does, eg, capitalizing on their sexual attraction on a professional basis without having direct sexual contact with their customers?

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:41:39 PM

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WTF? Is this thread actually worth my reading 16 pages of it to see if anyone set the OP straight?

Pardon me if I repeat myself and/or others.

Tribute has nothing at all to do with Female Domination as a Lifestyle "Failing". I come from a long line of Domineering women who all ran their households on both sides of my family. While Domineering is not the same as Dominate, it does train a girl up to know that 'wearing the pants' is not strictly a male role. We simply called it "Being a STRONG woman." Let me assure you that both BDSM Female Domination, Domineering and Strong Woman lead lifestyles are all alive, well and very successful.

As for the 'tribute' thing, lets face it folks. That's all about the sex. There are Thousands of men willing to pay for sex to every single woman who feels the need to pay for it.

The main reason most Male Doms do not ask for tribute is because they (many, not all) consider the free sex, any time, any place, any way they want it, from their female subs to be "Tribute" enough. Many men who sign up as "Dominants" aren't actually Doms at all, they just think its an easy way to get free pussy.

The reson most Female Dommes require 'Tribute' is to weed out all the "Do Me" subs who want nothing more than to be 'forced' to have sex 24/7/365 without having to bother with any type of relationship. Those guys don't want to be subs, they just want a free kinky whore to sex them up or provide the form of sexual stimulation they prefer. If all they want is the equivolent of a prostitute in a leather corset and stilettos, they jolly well better spread that wallet wider than their asses.

I think some dominant women have the wrong idea about it though. It's typically the young and newbie women that struggle with the concept. I like to call them fake dommes. Because the whole money and tribute angle becomes the central focus of the entire relationship. If you rely on someone else to take care of you and provide for you...that means you are dependent on someone else. That's not a dominant position. That's a submissive position. And I dont think most sub men are turned on to that kind of thing anyway. The idea of a dominant woman is one who is independent, smart, creative, etc.. A woman who is a leech may be fun for a fling, but that's about it.

The fact of the matter is that money is part of our society, kink or vanilla. And no matter what, the one that brings home the bacon is really the one who is in control. If a female submissive is making $50,000 more than her dominant husband, the husband may be running the bedroom...but I assure you the wife is running the house.
Same thing if the genders are reversed. If the male sub is bringing home a lot more money than his female dom...she may be running the bedroom but he's running the house.

And I want to clarify that Im talking about lifestyle BDSM here. Im not talking about pro-dommes who are basically paid by the male to satisfy a fetish. Yeah, yeah... I know the pro-domme claims it is HER fetish that matters. But the fact is that if she doesnt satisfy the male, he'll take his business elsewhere.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:43:12 PM

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No-I made one comment, after he had started arguing with two other people. He jumped on it half a page later.

By my count 8 posts on the last 2 pages plus that top one all saying the same thing.

Ok, I accept that I was derailing, and I'm sorry for that.

But, in my defence, haven't you ever got frustrated when someone just repeatedly won't listen to/can't understand what you're saying?

I'm going to stop posting in this thread now-I'll still be reading, though.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:46:45 PM

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Ok, I accept that I was derailing, and I'm sorry for that.

But, in my defence, haven't you ever got frustrated when someone just repeatedly won't listen to/can't understand what you're saying?

I'm going to stop posting in this thread now-I'll still be reading, though.

Yeah actually I do.

And pardon my snarkiness, it's been a rough couple weeks. I'm like zombified.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 4:51:56 PM

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jj291, money does not determine who is dominant. Not in my world. Anyone who thinks that can take his money and go! lol I've made more, I've made less, but I am still the boss and not just in the bedroom!

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/10/2010 6:50:19 PM

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The main reason most Male Doms do not ask for tribute is because they (many, not all) consider the free sex, any time, any place, any way they want it, from their female subs to be "Tribute" enough.

And here I thought it was because we actually valued our significant others.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/11/2010 9:24:29 AM

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The main reason most Male Doms do not ask for tribute is because they (many, not all) consider the free sex, any time, any place, any way they want it, from their female subs to be "Tribute" enough.

And here I thought it was because we actually valued our significant others.

You real ones do. But we're talking here about the shallow end of the gene pool, folks of all orientations who aren't really all that interested in their partners other than for whatever short term use and gratification they can get off of them. Their others aren't significant as far as they are concerned.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/11/2010 10:42:26 PM

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I just wasted over an hour of my life reading this thread. I must be less intelligent than I thought.

Who do I sue to get my time back!?

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/12/2010 5:32:57 AM

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I think some dominant women have the wrong idea about it though. It's typically the young and newbie women that struggle with the concept. I like to call them fake dommes. Because the whole money and tribute angle becomes the central focus of the entire relationship.

i have been ignoring this thread because i thought that everything worthwhile had already been said by the 3rd page of the thread (i think it's now up to page 18). But i decided to check in to see why it won't die, and the comment above caught my attention.

i agree with what jj292 said. i definitely see waaaaay too many profiles of 20-25 year old "Dommes" that seem to focus exclusively on "send me money you worthless worms".

The photos in these profiles are usually of extremely attractive women (often in bikinis).

Like jj292, i view these people as "fake Dommes" too. Their entire schtick seems to be to find vulnerable sub males who will send them money simply because the picture in their profile is hot. Frankly, i believe that the person behind the profile is often a fat guy living in his mom's basement.

i must get 10 unsolicited e-mails per week from people with this type of profile. Oddly enough, they never show up as having even looked at my profile.

Like jj292 said, "fake Dommes".

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/12/2010 5:34:50 AM

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I just wasted over an hour of my life reading this thread. I must be less intelligent than I thought.

Who do I sue to get my time back!?

By crawling to my feet and paying me tribute ;-)

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 3/12/2010 5:40:05 AM

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Like jj292 said, "fake Dommes".

I like think that some are "stuck in the script Dommes" who haven't figured out that they don't need to play these games to be dominant. Once they do, they can become great Dommes.

I also think some are "milk desperate men for all their worth fake Dommes" who are too lazy to get an education and a real job and make it in this world without being dependant on a man's money. The are the anti-thesis of a Domme actually.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 4/22/2010 12:36:05 PM

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i know this is a bit tardy but its such a provocative question I had to chime in and don't think its derailing anything to say that F/m certainly is NOT a failure for those couples who enjoyed it over the years and still are.

Its possible that that group may stabilize at a lower steady state in society for a plethora of reasons and focusing on the supply side:

1. My understanding from recent research (mentioned on Charlie Rose of all people a few months ago!) is that the woman sadist is a relatively rare creature, lovely though she may be.......and certainly in contrast to the much larger number/% of male masos (which apparently roughly equate to female masos on a proportional societal basis, roughly speaking here.)

2. Female sadists according to the research is the one group where women are just not represented numerically compared to female and male masos (proport equivalent or close by anyways), and male sadists which are much more represented than females.

3. OC sado does not directly correlate to Dominance but there is obvious overlap or multicollinearity doing stats speak. .....if this is true, and the book was co-authored by a female Canadian researcher from Ottawa(?) and an American guy, then there may just be a bottleneck at the source that just cannot be massaged, transformed, or whatever.....and this could also explain why so much of the Femme Domme is service oriented and not so much sexual sadist focused.

4. The pro-domme $ combatants on the thread can rest that at least there is an economic theory reason for the price points and their existance in the first place as a key segment of Les Dommes, at least the natural sados are just a naturally rarer being.

5. Using econ speak, this is not necessarily a 'failure' per se but just things settling in along their natural trend ,(memo to us guy subs = buck up and just deal with it i think or....)

6, or get some geneticist to fix that problem for the next generation.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 4/22/2010 12:42:40 PM

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FFS, stop reviving old threads.

To those who don't really venture into the AAMs forum: this guy has done exactly the same thing to a bunch of threads over there.

SSts: you weren't there when the debate happened. Deal with it. Don't rehash it. For crying out loud, if you want to post then either participate in a current thread or come up with a new topic you wish to discuss-don't come out with multiple second-rate restartings of arguments that have already happened.

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RE: Is the Female Domination Lifestyle a Failure? - 4/22/2010 1:28:25 PM

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Get your hand in your pocket and show them some respect you cheapskate.
If the girl shells out for her outfits, perfume, stockings and her playroom, you think you should get a free ride? Everything costs, everything, and you have to pay your share, or get out of the way for someone who will, it's only right. It's only fair, so stop squealing.
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