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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:04:27 PM   
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Lymes disease is not curable. It takes numerous treatments, as I've learned. You will always have it, it takes managing the symptoms. Or, am I wrong? 

You're right

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:08:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just wanted to point out that Munchausen's Syndrome is the purposeful infliction of personal injury in some manner to receive medical attention and attention resulting thereof, while Munchausen's Syndrome by proxy is the purposeful infliction of injury in some manner to another for the same purposes.

Munchausen's Syndrome does afflict the individual in question, while your instance (the abuse of a child) would be an example of Munchausen's by proxy.

Munchausen's Syndrome and by proxy are usually diagnosed by an excessive amount of visits to a doctor, often multiple doctors (nicknamed "making the rounds" after the practice of a doctor going to different facilities or residences) for illnesses that are the result of poisoning via overdose, self mutiliation, overuse of substances that result in inujury (the most common being laxatives), etc. It is difficult to prove but it is a suprisingly common diagnosis. The fundamental difference between Munchausen's Syndrome and hypochondria is that Munchausen's Syndrome patients actually do cause injury to themselves, whereas hypochondria is either the intentional misrepresentation or the uncontrolled delusion that one is sick or sicker than they actually are.

Just clarifying.


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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:09:49 PM   
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Most doctors, however, will not hesitate to administer an MRI if you feel you absolutely must have one, since that's an easily justified procedure when time to bill the insurance company comes along.


Catch is she's with the king of hell-no organizations Kaiser. HMO and test you want usually don't happen because it's not in their best interest...to hell with the paitient. That's how so many of them get sued by people that discover after going outside the network they have cancer or worse.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:10:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xoxkittenxox

Lymes disease is not curable. It takes numerous treatments, as I've learned. You will always have it, it takes managing the symptoms. Or, am I wrong? 

You're right


See my post on Lyme Disease earlier in the thread where I have cited the link to my source. Lyme Disease is "curable" to the extent that we understand the disease in up to 85% of cases. Only 15% statistically continue with "Post-Lyme Disease" syndrome or chronic Lyme Disease. Reposted the statistics for easy reference.


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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:10:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xoxkittenxox

Lymes disease is not curable. It takes numerous treatments, as I've learned. You will always have it, it takes managing the symptoms. Or, am I wrong? 

You're right


Not true, in the majority of the cases, Lyme disease can be successfully treated.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:17:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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ORIGINAL: xoxkittenxox

Lymes disease is not curable. It takes numerous treatments, as I've learned. You will always have it, it takes managing the symptoms. Or, am I wrong? 

You're right


See my post on Lyme Disease earlier in the thread where I have cited the link to my source. Lyme Disease is "curable" to the extent that we understand the disease in up to 85% of cases. Only 15% statistically continue with "Post-Lyme Disease" syndrome or chronic Lyme Disease. Reposted the statistics for easy reference.


She was the first one with lymes and has the post lyme syndrome for sure. Some day's she's rearing to go then you won't see her for 2 weeks because she hasn't left the house and is "down with lyme again"(her phrasing not statistical fact). Lost count over the years how many times she's been hospitalized for fluids and antibiotics. In her early 50's and looks more like 70 these days from the toll it's taken on her.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/21/2009 5:18:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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ORIGINAL: xoxkittenxox

Lymes disease is not curable. It takes numerous treatments, as I've learned. You will always have it, it takes managing the symptoms. Or, am I wrong? 

You're right


Not true, in the majority of the cases, Lyme disease can be successfully treated.

Treated and cured are not the same...kinda like cancer, you're always watching for the relapse even if you feel ok.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/22/2009 7:26:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Munchhausen by Proxy is purposely making someone sick (Yes, usually a child, or someone you are a caregiver to) to gain attention from doctors.  Munchhausen is when you make yourself appear sick to gain the attention from doctors. This is usually caused by a sibling or a parent or even just someone they know from childhood, having a serious illness and being, well, lack of a better word, jealous. They seek to be sick to gain the attention that the person they know from childhood received.

Of course, she could accuse me of being a hypochondriac. Might be more plausible. Of course, I'd rather it be something quick and treatable with a simple pill! No surgery for me!

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/22/2009 7:32:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		How is she the first person with Lymes? Did it mutate to become viable in humans in recent years? Says a number of cases were first identified in 1975 in Lyme, Connecticut. I dunno. I think its been around beforehand but we just didn't have the technology to figure out what it was...

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/23/2009 8:21:20 PM   
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there is no magic wand...there is no cure...and, to date, this slave hasn't tried ANYTHING that gets rid of them once they start.


Ketamine will stop a migraine attack in progress. The side effects are a bitch, and the long term effects unknown. PCP will do the same thing, but with even more severe side effects. In both cases, the dose should be lower than that used to induce anaesthesia. The probability of getting your doctor to prescribe it is low.

At least one sufferer has mentioned to me that, for her, the max dose of an NSAID taken during the aura phase will stop her migraines. This is most likely specific to the type of migraine. If I were to speculate, I would guess that the NSAID inhibits release of cytokines from glial cells, thereby causing a reduction in the release of glutamate, or an increase in its uptake, halting the progress of cortical spreading depression and thus aborting the migraine. If THC works for you, as you noted, then this is worth giving a try.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/23/2009 8:34:16 PM   
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near the back of my head/behind my ear.


Have you had any history of inner ear problems (e.g. vertigo, tinnitus, etc.) or had complications from dental extractions?

In the location you describe, a very small amount of lidocaine would make it to the cranial nerve "relay station" that is situated below the skin at that spot. It's about an inch or two from your ear, near the ridge behind the ear. Assuming that's the location which is effective, you will want to point it out to your neurologist, along with any history that might have relevance (e.g. infections in the mouth or face, blunt trauma, inner ear problems, recurring ear infections, etc.).

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/24/2009 7:27:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey! I have a lot of Tinnitus! Its so strange. I get like... DEAF in one ear and then this INSANE ringing, so loud it sounds like a JET, for like, THREE MINUTES! And I don't go back to hearing anything in that ear until ten minutes AFTER the ringing. Its creepy.

During a migraine attack, I get dizzy too! I thought this was because of the nausea, though! Or the pills I'm taking for it...

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/24/2009 7:51:06 AM   
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...If THC works for you, as you noted, then this is worth giving a try...


thanks for the tip, but NSAIDS do nothing for nausea and have been tried but came up ineffective for managing this slave's pain.  before ibuprofen was OTC (late 80's), this slave was written a prescription for the 800 mg version.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/25/2009 2:59:07 PM   
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Hey! I have a lot of Tinnitus! Its so strange. I get like... DEAF in one ear and then this INSANE ringing, so loud it sounds like a JET, for like, THREE MINUTES! And I don't go back to hearing anything in that ear until ten minutes AFTER the ringing. Its creepy. During a migraine attack, I get dizzy too! I thought this was because of the nausea, though! Or the pills I'm taking for it...


Thought as much. Now, go tell your neurologist.

What you are describing sounds very much like one form of hearing-related aura. In order to uncover the root cause of a migraine attack, it is important to establish the sequence of events. If the tinnitus or dizziness are preceded by another sign, then it will be helpful for the neurologist to know that. For instance, muscle twitches, facial pain, dental pain, sense of numbness or tingling in the face, mouth or nose, and so forth. Those can help in localizing the origin of the attack.

The nerve center in question is the trigeminal ganglion, and Rule made a good guess in mentioning herpes, since this is the precise location where the virus lays dormant when it is not active. I am not certain whether a screening will reveal dormant infections or not. Did you have chickenpox as a child?

Either way, the neurologist should be able to track it from the trigeminal ganglion.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/25/2009 4:41:06 PM   
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thanks for the tip, but NSAIDS do nothing for nausea and have been tried but came up ineffective for managing this slave's pain.  before ibuprofen was OTC (late 80's), this slave was written a prescription for the 800 mg version.


I was thinking more along the lines of 1800mg... again, anecdotal, so blasting your stomach to hell with such a dose is probably not going to be worthwhile. Ketamine, however, is a useful thing to try, so long as the attacks aren't frequent enough that a risk of Olney's lesions is credible. If your doctor is at his wit's end in figuring out how to help you, there is a chance he would be willing to talk to one of the clinics that have tried it to get ass coverage for prescribing it, or defer the responsibility onto such a clinic. Particularly if he knows you have been using THC as an alternative treatment in the absence of a prescribed drug (go figure). Usually, it will be in the form of a nasal spray, and will be very fast acting.

Just a thought. Bear in mind that I'm no doctor, let alone a neurologist.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/26/2009 6:43:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I also suffer from migraines and they were worse when I was younger though there are times when nothing will help. Mine are worse on the very first day of my menstrual cycle and there is a relation to the monthly time.

The only medicine I take for mine is: Midrin as my doctor said MOST of the medicine on the market for migraines are bad for you and he is not willing to prescribe anything else.

I also take between 600 to 1200 mg of Magnesium daily based on the doctor's recommendation because the doctor said most women don't get enough Magnesium and said that the FDA recommendations are too low.

I found when I started taking the magnesium the difference in the severity and how often I get them.

Also like BossyShoeBitch and others there are certain triggers and for me this includes
SOY will bring them on in a heartbeat minute
getting too hungry
Stress
Some types of chocolate
Peanuts or Peanut Butter

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/26/2009 4:03:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm.....you know, I'm not sure my headaches are necessarily migraines.

Not to derail the subject of migraines, but has anyone ever experienced headaches from new carpet?

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/27/2009 11:58:11 AM   
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SOY will bring them on in a heartbeat minute
getting too hungry
Stress
Some types of chocolate
Peanuts or Peanut Butter


Have you had a hormone panel done? Soy is close enough to estrogen for the body to respond. Fat is the substrate for estrogen and other sex hormones. Stress and hunger alter hormone balance. Chocolates with high PEA content shift the hormone balance briefly but violently. Mom got her migraines after having me, and then they went away for good after having my sis. I got mine after an ER doc messed up my hormone balance, and keeping the hormones in order has done wonders.

Comparing hormones between yourself and those parts of your family with a history of migraine to those parts that do not have a history of migraines may very well reveal one of the hormones being out of the ideal target range (population averages are notoriously poor guidelines).

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/27/2009 4:51:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I took a thyroid test or something but... I think it may be my hormones because I haven't had a period in almost a year. Okay, well, a year in... 32 days. ^^ Of course, I'll lose medical coverage in a week and a half and my doctor won't even respond to my... I think my pills are making me suicidal... email.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/27/2009 7:03:31 PM   
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Hmmm.....you know, I'm not sure my headaches are necessarily migraines.

Not to derail the subject of migraines, but has anyone ever experienced headaches from new carpet?


Offgassing.

I'm never buying a new car again because it was a year and a half before the chemicals stopped coming off it and driving with all the windows open in winter is no fun at all.

Sounds like a chemical sensitivity, environmental allergy.

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