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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/28/2009 5:45:36 AM   
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there is no magic wand...there is no cure...and, to date, this slave hasn't tried ANYTHING that gets rid of them once they start.
 
it has been this slave's experience that one must experiment with the available options to dicover what is best for the individual to help manage one's symptoms.
 
this slave is allergic to aspirin and anything that starts with oxy-, gave the tricyclic anti-depressants a try and wasn't impressed, so she ingests cannabis.  it helps with the nausea, helps lighten the mood, lessens the pain and accelerates sleep which seems to help this slave get past the debilitating stage...and is the least toxic option available.
 
best wishes.


This can alleviate the symtoms for me temporarily. But then I can get a rebound headache later that throbs something awful. But when it gets that bad, I am begging of off my ex.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/28/2009 5:49:29 AM   
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I had awful migraines and what I thought was sinus headaches until I got on blood preure medicine. Cut them by 75%. Also smoking cigarettes can be a big trigger.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 6:52:07 AM   
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Interesting you mentioned chickenpox. I never HAD chickenpox but my dad keeps saying I got the vaccine for it. So I'm alright. Buuuut, no, I never had chickenpox.

I do have dental pain and the cheek when the tinnitus is finished. Always the same side, too. The right.

Is this something that would not show up on a CT scan? That's all my doctor tested me with.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 6:56:22 AM   
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Smoking cigarettes alleviates the migraine enough for me to stomach something. Sometimes it lasts five minutes before it comes back, sometimes it lasts a few hours. Depends on the day.

Been getting them like CRAZY ever since I stopped taking my pills. They had tapered off while I was taking them. Too bad they caused me to be an emotional, suicidal WRECK! I couldn't stop crying like, all day. Except in like, half hour intervals. And then late at night, I would just start balling out of nowhere and be all suicidal.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 7:09:20 AM   
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So, uh, one other thing... For some reason, I think this HAS to do with my migraines, because if I keep doing it, it makes the migraine worse and if I do it a lot in a day, I get a horrible one. At the same time, it hurts.

I have this thing about chewing off skin on the inside of my lips, off my lips, and on the sides of my fingers. To the point where I bleed. Another thing I do, is I put powdered aspirin under my tongue, because it rips up the skin under my tongue. Never really talked to a doctor about it but I'm thinking it might be related. I've been doing this for years and I'm not exactly sure why. I pick at the sides of my fingers until they are so mangled that they start bleeding and I can't type, I can't text on my phone, I can't pick up shit. And my lips, it gets so painful I can't eat/drink anything other than a little water. I KNOW I do it. I just... Can't stop.

Now, I have not been doing this since the beginning of my migraines. But at least two years.

Also, which, this REALLY sucks... If I have something in my mouth, I have to chew it. I literally have no control over it. I try not to. I seem to have a chewing problem. I've bought, like, chew toys for babies and chewed all the way through them. And I'd sit and suck on it for hours. Pacifiers, too. Until I started to chew it to peices and they were too expensive to keep on doing it.

I am not sure if its stress related, because, even when I'm smoking I do it. Shouldn't that be enough hand/mouth actions to stop it?

I swear I've been digesting pounds of flesh since this started. Its been on my nerves, I've tried to stop it. I even put a rubberband on my wrist and smacked it whenever I caught myself. Like, as punishment or something. But, nothing helps.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 9:22:35 AM   
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If nothing helps it may be because it is a form of OCD.

Your headaches might be triggered by the chewing if you have TMJ.

Again, your headaches will be better sorted out when you are able to see a headache specialist.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 9:38:48 AM   
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Your headaches might be triggered by the chewing

Indeed.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/29/2009 9:44:44 AM   
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TMJ.... I do have a bit of pain there as mentioned before. I thought it was my teeth, though.. I'll add that to my list of possibilities!

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/2/2009 12:13:00 AM   
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Never really talked to a doctor about it but I'm thinking it might be related.


You really should talk to both the doctor and the neurologist about it.

You'll have to pardon the short and scattered reply. I'm a bit short on time and low on sleep.

The problems you describe are almost certainly related. And it may be indicative of a focal seizure. Focal seizures have very specific effects, down to the level of repeating a single planned action over and over, or a single routine action over and over, or having a specific sensation occur repeatedly, or losing one part of your reasoning ability, and so forth. A long lasting focal seizure must be treated in the same manner as status epillepticus: with immediate medical care. OCD is a possibility, but you aren't really describing any feeling of palpable compulsion, nor trepidation at the prospect of stopping. Rather, if I read you correctly, it is more like you have temporarily lost the ability to stop repeating one fairly normal action (e.g. biting lips, etc.) over and over until it becomes harmful (i.e. until you bleed, etc.). That is not how OCD works, but it is how a certain kind of focal seizure works. Those can be triggered in many different ways, which a neurologist can figure out.

As a general rule, when the diagnoses start piling up, someone needs to go looking for the root cause, the one that all or most of the diagnoses are the direct result of. It's my corollary to Occam's Razor: do not needlessly multiply diagnoses. The smallest set of diagnoses that will account for the symptoms is probably correct. Not always, but often enough that looking for an underlying condition is usually justified when the list gets a bit long. Like a focal seizure in one part of the brain causing a behavior that accounts for the remainder of the symptoms, apart from depression (which can certainly be hormone related, or nutritional, or environmental, or ...).

As for CT, that is mostly a tool for imaging the structure. It does not say so much about function. You would probably want an EEG and a scan that deals more with the function of the brain, i.e. MRI, PET or SPECT. Again, as the resident med student pointed out, you should talk to your doctor and have the neurologist determine what to have a look at. The doctor is not a substitute for a neurologist, however, so ask for a referral.

That nicotine affects you is not a surprise. Five minutes is a pretty short duration, however. The elimination half life of nicotine is on the order of 2 hours, unless you happen to be taking medications that accelerate the breakdown (like a barbiturate or over the counter herbal medicine, for example). It does, however, take a shorter amount of time for the receptors to adapt to a nicotine rush. If you have a low density of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, you may also have caused a temporary blockade, which invokes a response that is related to the hypoxia response of the brain, which is mediated by the same systems that cause the migraines, but nobody ever does a binding assay outside a study. There isn't any reason why you can't switch to a less harmful delivery system for your nicotine, though...

And the chickenpox vaccine is live virus, so if you were on the pill while you got the vaccine, then it is not unlikely that the virus is present in the trigeminal ganglion, albeit as a purely latent infection. Unless you can think of some serious hormonal or immune system event from the time when the migraine started, there doesn't seem to be any likely reason why HSV, VZV or E-B virus should be the cause of the reaction. Rule might have additional information to the contrary, I've only read briefly up on it in the context of genetically altered rabies (Koreans have been experimenting with that for metastatic brain cancers of a particular type).

Any history of blunt trauma to the head or spinal cord, varicose veins, blood clots, diabetes, etc., etc.?

Also, any history of sudden spikes in heart rate, say 20-30 extra beats per minute, with no apparent reason?

Again, sorry if this seems disjoint. I've had to edit things a few times to even get it a little bit consistent. Busy day. As usual, I'm not a doctor, or even med student, so this is idle speculation, pretty much. You have to run it by your doctor and ask for a referral to a neurologist. A qualified professional can fix the problem. I can't. Don't have the expertise, nor the gear, nor the access. Meanwhile, get a gag or other tooth-friendly mouth restraint that can keep you from chewing anything other than food, and have a nurse or manicurist treat your fingers and apply some medical acrylic glue to them while they're at it, then put on some fingered gloves. That medical acrylic works for lips, too, if it's allowed to dry with the lips parted. It does not work inside the mouth, fortunately. Throw out the aspirin, and replace it with some tabs that are called gaviscon instead. They're used for reflux, but are harmless and may be beneficial while your esophagus gets a rest from the aspirin.

If that doesn't work, I'll see if I can scrounge up a spare straight jacket and bit somewhere.

More seriously, though, you need to get your body some rest. These are barriers to the environment you are tearing down. They are there for a good reason. It needs to stop long enough to heal, at the very least. If that means getting tied down to the bed, or walking around with mittens and a bit, so be it. Once they've healed, you have time to deal with it properly. Then you can use that time to get somewhere with the doc and neuro. Meanwhile, harm reduction is better than doing nothing.

'nite.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/7/2009 7:45:45 PM   
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I've been in the middle of seeing doctors about migraines too. I just was prescribed Imitrex, and now I'm afraid to take it! Can't take NSAIDS because I'm allergic to them.

Mercnbeth mentioned hormones and my first migraine with aura was while I was pregnant. I also had migraines as a teenager. I'v continued to have them off and on since but now they are getting more frequent. Anyway, my OBGYN is trying changing my pill to a low estrogen pill because this is supposed to help, and the neurologist I saw also told me that hormones do play a factor and a lot o women will get them around their period. Th neurologist also mentioned stress and lack of sleep as triggers. I'm going to get an MRI this weekend. Apparently if your headaches wake you up at night, they order an MRI.

Because of my allergy to NSAIDS, I was looking into homeopathic remedies. I haven't tried this, but I did find this article: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/feverfew-000243.htm I googled around and find similar articles about studies in England and Germany that support it. It might be worth a try. You should probably ask a doctor trained in homeopathic medicines first though, to make sure there aren't any interactions with any drugs you are currently on etc.

Well wishes,

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/8/2009 8:36:51 PM   
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When I worked in CA route delivery I used to get migranes. I was a tm meditator at the time. I would just pull over to the side of the road and meditate for 5 minutes and the migrane was gone... worked every time. don't get them anymore. been meditating for 30 years.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/10/2009 1:24:29 PM   
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Hmmm.....you know, I'm not sure my headaches are necessarily migraines.

Not to derail the subject of migraines, but has anyone ever experienced headaches from new carpet?


Offgassing.

I'm never buying a new car again because it was a year and a half before the chemicals stopped coming off it and driving with all the windows open in winter is no fun at all.

Sounds like a chemical sensitivity, environmental allergy.



Hey Des...thank you for mentioning offgassing from the new carpet. I honestly believe that's what was happening and thankfully, Benadryl has been helping.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/11/2009 10:27:34 AM   
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Th neurologist also mentioned stress and lack of sleep as triggers. I'm going to get an MRI this weekend. Apparently if your headaches wake you up at night, they order an MRI. -- sleep apneia will cause headaches/migraines

Because of my allergy to NSAIDS, I was looking into homeopathic remedies. I haven't tried this, but I did find this article: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/feverfew-000243.htm I googled around and find similar articles about studies in England and Germany that support it. It might be worth a try. You should probably ask a doctor trained in homeopathic medicines first though, to make sure there aren't any interactions with any drugs you are currently on etc. -- feverfew works by upping the threshold for headaches/migraines. It has to be taken daily. It will not work by taking it as the headache starts. It is more a preventive. It will lessen headaches/migraines of those that cross that raised threshold(like some epilepsy drugs)




But the disturbing facts seem to be drawn out after long term - try a journal as was suggested before. Jot down anything that happened before migraine, during the event, and after the event. The tinnitius, no periods, jaw pain and the others; are all pieces to a much bigger puzzle. The more pieces you can provide, the easier it will be to solve the root cause. Although; lockable mittens will help in the short term; along with some other items. Slight hint.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/18/2009 9:35:32 AM   
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Well, lately, I've been getting them REALLY bad. Right out of bed! We've been sleeping in a few random places in Oregon and some are cleaner, some are worse. But every day, same headache, right out of bed. I've been eating better, because mom is a nuisance, I've been smoking less and drinking less coffee, but still enough to counter any caffeine related migraines... I don't understand why they are straight out of bed, though. In the morning, as SOON as I open my eyes, MIGRAINE. All over my neck and the sides of my head. It feels like I have a medieval contraption on my head and someone is cranking it tighter and tighter. It feels like my head is going to POP! Not quite sure why this is happening but I think it might be the pressure. One, we are higher than I was in California. Two, we're getting the clouds and rain coming in, where as it was warm and sunshiney in California and two, it hurts like FUCK when my ears pop in the car, going over a mountain or such. Plus, Pressure... Pressure...

Anyway, any suggestions on these migraines? They last all day and even laying down and resting doesn't help. I still just wake up with it.  

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/18/2009 11:33:04 AM   
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xoxkittenxox can it be an issue with relaxation? I know when i stopp exercising i tend to tenz up compleatly and can wake up with migrains. I found this thing here in sweden, its a bed of nails kind of thing, http://www.shaktimattan.se/ (maybe they have something like that there?) . Some people say its bogus, others swere by it, i know it just gives me acces to a levle of relaxation i cant get any other way.

Dont get me wrong, it hurts like hell to lay down on the spikes but it realy forces me to relax. i can only stay on five minuts at the time but getting better att it.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/18/2009 5:22:47 PM   
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I have been on some bitter pill (you put it under your tongue) that i don't remember the name any more.

I have been on Imitrex (you can only take so many a week or month as it can give you a heart attack if i recall correctly), Midrin (which worked for me most of the time, i was taken off of it because i have asthma), and other pills i cannot remember.

Now i am on Max-Alt. I wish i could have my Midrin back. When all else fails a shot of Torporal (sp?). When that doesn't work a narcotic. Believe me when a migraine hits i wish i could make myself unconscious for hours on end.

Oh, yes and Demorol and something mixed with that. I was told it would put me out for 24 hours. I wasn't even out for 5 minutes!

Migraines suck big time. I wish none of us got them..

I have tried some over the counter med specially for Migraine, since i don't drink coffee it had me higher than a kite, my heart was going nuts. I seriously thought i would have a heart attack! I was really speeded up by it. I was asked what i was on..Threw the bottle away after that would never, ever take that medicine nor recommend it to anyone.

Doctor told me to avoid things with caffeine in them. Avoid soda esp. Mountain Dew...

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RE: Migraine Medications - 10/18/2009 5:31:28 PM   
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I have been told the following:

You get migraines from:

Weather changes
airplane = traveling
altitude changes
food, additives in food, stay away from msg, wine, ( i was given a 2 page list long ago of what foods can trigger a migraine) we are all different in our trigger points (i suggest a headache diary of what u ate)
smells
eating too much, not eating enough
not enough sleep, too little sleep (get up every day at the same time even weekends) NO Sleeping in!

That is all i can think of off the top of my head..

I have been told to try acupunture, mediation, pressing the fleshy part between my thumb and forefinger...Whatever works for you try it...

Good luck on solving your migraine issues. I have had migraines since a young um. Some in my family get it... I seem to get them the most...i really hate them! GRRRRR!

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