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Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 2:59:49 PM

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Alright, so, both of the ones I have taken have done this. And, it helps my migraine, but is it worth it?

For one, I get this pain, in my throat, around five minutes after I take the pill. Then, all down my neck. Its like a.... Burning.... Tense..... I can't quite explain it.... I guess burning and tense but there is something else... If I try to swallow, its as if I forgot HOW to swallow. I try.... I try..... I try..... I MAY succeed.

Then follows the kick to my chest. Just... BOOM! The air is knocked out of me, I swear my heart stopped, I have pain down my back, arms, neck, chest, throat... Only lasts a second and its gone... Then I get cold. So cold that I shiver. I put on a sweater, I have to go outside, something.

Then, TINNITUS! CRAZY amounts of times. Like, five in a row, each like, thirty seconds to a minute! And with each, it alternates ears. And I go DEAF in that ear while it occurs.

For hours after, I feel like I can't do anything. I daze off. I block out all sounds. I'm dizzy constantly. I get a cramp in my right side, all along my side, right under my arm... My back hurts like crazy, in my shoulder blades, down my spine, and the lower part of my back.... Also feels like my lymphs are swollen or I have a sore throat, even though I didn't have it before I took the pill.

This has happened with Imitrex and now this new pill, Zomig.

I've gotten migraines on almost a daily basis since I was 12.

They get to a manageable point and then they increase the intensity on me, almost every year...

The pill helps but these symptoms are just crazy, am I wrong?

She also put me on Nortryptaline or something like that, which I can't tell if its helping or not.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 4:12:13 PM

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i'm not a doctor but i do play one in my head..................

Have You tried topamax??

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 4:31:57 PM

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Also for some people beta blockers can help ward them off.

And it seems as though some of what you experience are fairly common side effects with triptans.

Common Side Effects of TriptansEach triptan has been studied thoroughly in clinical trials in which the side effects seen in a group of people taking the drug are documented and compared to another group not taking the medicine. Based on these studies, some of the most common triptan side effects include:

Nausea
Dry mouth
Abnormal sensations, such as tingling, burning, or pricking (paresthesia)
Dizziness
Drowsiness
Throat or neck symptoms
Warm or cold sensations
Feelings of heaviness, pressure, or tightness (especially in the throat, chest, or neck)
Flushing (redness of the skin, especially of the face).

http://headache.emedtv.com/triptans/side-effects-of-triptans.html

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 5:01:00 PM

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those are the same side effects my doc warned me about with my migraine meds, I would rather have the symptoms then the migraine.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 6:38:08 PM

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I second the Topamax. It is a preventative, not just a treatment in the event you get one and has been highly effective for me when nothing else has been. I have little to no side effects. Fair warning, it isn't the cheapest stuff around though.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 6:45:55 PM

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Sorry but I simply could not resist this analogy.

Withthe exception of nausea, the list souds like the results of a pretty intense scene!

Nausea
Dry mouth
Abnormal sensations, such as tingling, burning, or pricking (paresthesia)
Dizziness
Drowsiness
Throat or neck symptoms
Warm or cold sensations
Feelings of heaviness, pressure, or tightness (especially in the throat, chest, or neck)
Flushing (redness of the skin, especially of the face).

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 7:04:22 PM

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You poor poor thing! Is the Imitrex the nasal spray or the pill or the shot? When I used to take the nasal spray, it would drip down my throat and make me sick to my stomach. The pill wasn't much better, making me feel extremely nauseated.

I take zomig now. It doesn't make me as sick as imitrex did, but my muscles ache (especially my jaw muscles) a few hours after I take it. It's very odd.

I also agree that I would much rather experience those side effects than the migraine.

20 years ago, I used to use an powdery substance that got rid of my migraines in a flash (living in South Miami it was easily gotten). Not likely that it would ever be a recommended treatment though...

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/15/2009 7:10:52 PM

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quote:

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Sorry but I simply could not resist this analogy.

Withthe exception of nausea, the list souds like the results of a pretty intense scene!

Nausea

Dry mouth

Abnormal sensations, such as tingling, burning, or pricking (paresthesia)

Dizziness

Drowsiness

Throat or neck symptoms

Warm or cold sensations

Feelings of heaviness, pressure, or tightness (especially in the throat, chest, or neck)

Flushing (redness of the skin, especially of the face).

Well, I will say that if you head it off at the pass soon enough, a good session can correct all kinds of things for me. No joke.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 7:15:03 AM

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I take the pill with all those strange side effects! I haven't tried Topamax, though. I am on a preventative, however. If I could take some magically remedy for all the other side effects, I would be in heaven! Sometimes, coffee helps diminish them. Sometimes smoking helps. Sometimes walking helps. Sometimes eating helps. Of course, I have to do them all to figure out which one helps! And at work, its hard to take a break. If I have a migraine at 7 in the morning, I can't take lunch, so I can't take my pill until around lunch time, which is usually around 11:00.

I work in accounting right now and will soon be in pre-med school. My ability to stay awake, stay comfortable and focus is quite high on the importance scale.

I am quite curious as to why some people have migraines very often and some have none! You would think they could pin point that! Perhaps an over abundence of a certain receptor/chemical trigger in the brain, or perhaps the lack of? Perhaps a structure problem.

Strange part is, a near-overdose level of aspirin usually takes care of the problem, which makes me think it may be the veins/capilaries in my brain that are being deprived of blood and/or oxygen. Of course, taking a deep breath only helps for but a mere second and then I go back to throbbing, uncontrollable, light-sensitive pain!

In darkness, I find relief. In light, I find AGONY.

Another strange thing is... Most people feel heat from the sun directly on the skin, right? How about other lights? Fluorescent? Standard bulb? Despite how cold I am, if I am in direct light, of any sort, I usually feel some sort of warmth.

Perhaps I'm normal. Perhaps I'm crazy. Perhaps I should stop typing and get back to work... As if I don't waste most of my time reading all the past health and safety forums anyway! >>

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 7:19:42 AM

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Best thing I've ever found is a homeopathic called Migra Spray. I use it everyday. It's decreased the frequency and intensity of my migaines.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 7:36:52 AM

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I tried Mig Relief. It said to take for, like, 6 weeks to 2 months for it to work! I was like, seriously? And, it was so expensive, too! I'll see if I can find Migra Spray. Thank you.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 5:18:52 PM

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quote:

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I take the pill with all those strange side effects! I haven't tried Topamax, though. I am on a preventative, however. If I could take some magically remedy for all the other side effects, I would be in heaven! Sometimes, coffee helps diminish them. Sometimes smoking helps. Sometimes walking helps. Sometimes eating helps. Of course, I have to do them all to figure out which one helps! And at work, its hard to take a break. If I have a migraine at 7 in the morning, I can't take lunch, so I can't take my pill until around lunch time, which is usually around 11:00.

Are you kidding? Waiting that long might be one of your issues.

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I am quite curious as to why some people have migraines very often and some have none! You would think they could pin point that! Perhaps an over abundence of a certain receptor/chemical trigger in the brain, or perhaps the lack of? Perhaps a structure problem.

Have you pinned down what your triggers are? Mine are very often caused by 1 of 3 things:
1. Food related (whether I've eaten something I know is a trigger, or if I have waited too long to eat.)
2. Also I grind my teeth horribly at night (I have a vey attractive night guard I wear to sleep but it doesn't always help).
3. Smells (perfumes, cleaners, chemical)

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Strange part is, a near-overdose level of aspirin usually takes care of the problem, which makes me think it may be the veins/capilaries in my brain that are being deprived of blood and/or oxygen. Of course, taking a deep breath only helps for but a mere second and then I go back to throbbing, uncontrollable, light-sensitive pain!

In darkness, I find relief. In light, I find AGONY.

Have you tried BC aspirin powder?

Also, are you postive that what you get are actual migraines as opposed to cluster headaches; stress; etc?

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 6:45:10 PM

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there is no magic wand...there is no cure...and, to date, this slave hasn't tried ANYTHING that gets rid of them once they start.

it has been this slave's experience that one must experiment with the available options to dicover what is best for the individual to help manage one's symptoms.

this slave is allergic to aspirin and anything that starts with oxy-, gave the tricyclic anti-depressants a try and wasn't impressed, so she ingests cannabis. it helps with the nausea, helps lighten the mood, lessens the pain and accelerates sleep which seems to help this slave get past the debilitating stage...and is the least toxic option available.

best wishes.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 6:49:07 PM

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Also for some people beta blockers can help ward them off.

And it seems as though some of what you experience are fairly common side effects with triptans.

Common Side Effects of TriptansEach triptan has been studied thoroughly in clinical trials in which the side effects seen in a group of people taking the drug are documented and compared to another group not taking the medicine. Based on these studies, some of the most common triptan side effects include:

Nausea

Dry mouth

Abnormal sensations, such as tingling, burning, or pricking (paresthesia)

Dizziness

Drowsiness

Throat or neck symptoms

Warm or cold sensations

Feelings of heaviness, pressure, or tightness (especially in the throat, chest, or neck)

Flushing (redness of the skin, especially of the face).

http://headache.emedtv.com/triptans/side-effects-of-triptans.html

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She also put me on Nortryptaline or something like that, which I can't tell if its helping or not

So icing on the cake listed above is nortryptaline caused me to have seizures and narcolepsey as well as perminant hypoglycemia.

Might go and talk to a neuro specialist especially if you've had them this many years. May be something as simple as blood flow issue in youre head. Sleep deprived EEG done while in MRI can answer just about any question you'd have. You get a good nap and the doctors get their answers. Even better is to get a scan when you're actually in migraine so they can compair the scans.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 6:55:16 PM

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so she ingests cannabis. it helps with the nausea, helps lighten the mood, lessens the pain and accelerates sleep which seems to help this slave get past the debilitating stage...and is the least toxic option available.

best wishes.

That technique is very impractical unless you're in a medical marijuana state. Even then, your employer may have something to say about it, and it wouldn't be good. Especially if you use heavy equipment, dangerous equipment or drive for your job.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 7:02:10 PM

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Migranal may be a good alternative. It's DHE (a real old school drug) in a nasal spray. You spray with your face tilted down so you don't get any in your stomach.

The only problem is it's damned expensive. I have a copay of $100 for 8 vials. Probably because the insurance company wants me to take triptans. Migranal's the only thing that does not give me rebound headaches.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 7:04:33 PM

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Your migraine may be caused by a herpes virus.
In any case, the symptoms you describe after taking migraine medication strongly suggest a herpes infection that is triggered by the medication. If so, then do stop taking the medication. Avoid all sweets, fruits, additives, nuts, dairy products (except yoghurt), carrots and cauliflower. Do take daily vitamin C tablets.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/16/2009 8:27:26 PM

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'i'm not a doctor but i do play one in my head.................. '

that reminded me of dr nick from the simpsons

Have you tried Tylenol 3? Its perscription but not hard to get and works well when I get bad headaches and they work very well for both of my parents as well (they both suffer from chronic migraines) Though a word of caution: DO NOT take it on an empty stomach. I made that mistake once and will never repeat it. I don't think the people behind me at the mcdonalds drive thru were too appreciative either but lets not get into that.

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/17/2009 7:04:58 AM

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My problem is: There is NO trigger. They happen EVERY day, no matter what I do. I've tried all sorts of diets, included no wheat, no dairy, no meat, all meat, all high carbs.... Name it, I've tried it. I tried eliminating all fruits, all... Everything. And not just, a day. Like, each diet took at least a month to cleanse my system. Some, I kept with for longer. I've tried all organics, blah! I can't even name all the diets I've tried. I've been from California, to Quebec, Canada. I've been to Oregon, I've been all over different California cities... Well, in 7 years, I've done just about everything to try to avoid just ONE day of a migraine, in the form of diets, exercises, environments, everything. I've overdosed on Acetaminophen. I've probably overdosed myself on Aspirin and Tylenol at many points. I took some of my mom's 800 mL Ibuprofen, FOUR TIMES in one hour.... Nothing. I've tried her opiates, I've tried anti-depressants... I've tried sleeping a lot, I've tried sleeping a little, I've tried different sleeping positions, I've tried... Just about as much as I could have tried. My doctors don't want to put me through all those expensive tests.

I've never had sex, I doubt I could have herpes. Plus, no cold sores, ever. I'm pretty sheltered so I doubt I have herpes. Mom drilled into my head about not sharing anything with anyone that went near their mouth.

I'll look into Tylenol 3. Is it just a high dose, though? Whats the difference between that and regular Tylenol?

Never tried DHE. Thats pretty interesting. Not sure if I could afford it, though, even just the copay....

I've tried marijuana... Yes, it helps with the nausia, and it helps me fall asleep, but it feels like its even MORE painful. For one once a week or something, I may have kept with it, but for every day, its not practical.

If it was a blood flow issue, I figure the aspirin would have helped more. I tried powered, directly under my tongue, taken once every ten minutes, until I finished off three aspirins. 600 mg. On a REALLY bad day, it helped me not puke until I got home to knock myself out with a few sleep aids. Other than that, it didn't help otherwise.

7 years of constant, daily stress? I don't think thats possible to withstand without suicide after year 3! Besides, when I was in Canada, I was under zero stress. I was home, my girlfriend went to work. I basically cleaned and went on the computer or watched some TV or went out skating.

I guess I could try to take one with breakfast but, at the same time, its not supposed to be the preventative. Its supposed to be the just in case. I'm taking it daily though, and even if I eat, I still get those weird symptoms. GOD, the first day, I made a huge mistake. I was with my dad, just got out of the doctors. I took one and ate at some small restraunt then DROVE myself to work. God, first two minutes, I nearly wrecked because I felt so freakin' loopy. So, food doesn't ALWAYS assist.

For now, I guess I just keep on the aspirin and maybe that'll make the strange symptoms happen faster or less noticeable...

Thank you all!

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RE: Migraine Medications - 9/17/2009 7:24:04 AM

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So, you've been on the diet that eliminates tyramine.
Have you tried eliminating MSG, or had an allergy panel done?

Have you had a CT scan or an MRI done?
Have you been to a headache clinic via a neurology practice?
Keeping a headache diary would be helpful.

I am guessing You have tried plain old excedrine...likely midrin as well.

Tylenol 3 is tylenol with codeine.
Fiorinol with codeine would be another one to try.

But if your insurance will cover it Topamax does often work as a preventative when nothing else does.

Also, you might want to talk to your employer, perhaps they would be willing for you to take your break early if you explain that you have migraines and need to eat with your medication.
Waiting 4 hrs to take your pill is not a good way to manage them.

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