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Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/29/2004 8:17:59 AM

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Predicament Bondage

Last night, I had the pleasure and privilege of attending Midori’s Predicament Bondage workshop.

Predicament bondage is an activity in which a bottom is put in such a position such that it creates a conflict of desires. Note that this type of bondage doesn’t require ropes… it can be mental bondage as well. Midori also stresses that the outcome for enduring this situation to the Top’s satisfaction has to be positive which can be termination of the predicament or a reward. The negative reinforcement for not performing to expectations can be adding constraints, not giving a reward or a punishment.

She did 3 demos. My favourite of the 3 began with her getting this cute little rugby player volunteer to strip down and tied his arms behind his back and ankles to a spreader bar. He was made to bend his knees and a string was tied to his balls and cock and then to the spreader bar. If he straightened his legs, it would stretch his genitals. If he kept his genitals comfortable, his thighs would burn. And she layered this with other predicaments and the scene lasted nearly an hour. He was actually impressive in his endurance and Midori radiant in her dominance and the scene was nothing less then thrilling.

I realised that without knowing the specifics of predicament bondage, that I practice it on a regular basis. This workshop was wonderful in that it helped me step outside myself and analyse my activities and get a better handle on the dynamics that I engage in. And much to my sub’s pleasure/dismay (oh don’t we love those contractions), my mind went racing into a million variations on the theme!

So now, have any of you participated in predicament bondage activities and have you any wisdom or advice to share?

Inquiring sadistic Dommes wanna know!!

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/29/2004 9:30:03 AM

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Midori is wonderful, and so is Amanda Wildfire if you ever get a chance to see her talk on the topic.

PB is something That can be great fun, I'm not a bondage enthusiast per se. But I love predicament situations. I love to play two subs together and have them in situations were their lips are dangerously close to the others genitalia, or even the simply act of if you move you will be impaled upon said object.. and once impaled there is no telling what may happen.

I'm not drawn to endurance masochist for mascochisms sake, but more drawn to PB for the humiliation aspects of it.

mmm... nice thoughts running through my mind.

Ms. Eden

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/29/2004 11:04:09 AM

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I didn't know it had a name. I think humiliation is a form of this. Putting a sub between a rock and a hard place, but without the physical bondage.

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/29/2004 12:03:01 PM

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I'm still in the definition phase, trying to figure out who I am and what I'd like in this area (besides the rather meaningless answer "everything").

I got all hot reading these posts, so I suppose that says something

Thanks for the help in clarifying things.

It's too bad everyone's so far away. Anybody know anyone who's into these things in Ohio, by any chance?

~smile~

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/30/2004 12:48:12 AM

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Midori will have Ya saying damn now why dident I think of that! The things Ive see done with pearls in Midori's hands are just perfection! I more enjoy the humiliation factor as well in PB.

Ive practiced PB in photo sessions for years and use mirrors for double effects on long term PB with hair. Yep hair bondage is a really great predicament bondage tool and makes for a great multi position choice level. Morpheus and Deja do sum great work as well in PB. But Charlie Ashman I think is the best Ive ever known in PB and the use of shibari and wet materials thats sun dried for slow PB styles that are the most Sadistic and humiliating Ive ever seen. His being a POW gained Him sum valued first hand insite into such talents first hand at the end of the torture of His captors and turned this terrible experiance into a use that kept ones living extream and unique. He is truly missed by Me.
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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/30/2004 4:49:13 AM

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Yes, Midori is just so full of fantastic ideas. Perhaps my most favourite little idea of the evening was to secure an uncooked quail egg with eyelash glue to the lips to form a very fragile gag. How divinely cruel!

I also adore the humiliation aspect of the predicament bondage. That and the pain factor all ties into my sadistic kink. My mind has not stopped scheming!

Thanks so much for the links Dread and information from everyone. Keep the info and ideas coming!

- LA

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/30/2004 5:57:24 AM

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Greetings,

As a huge bondage freak (especially Shibari) i wanted to thank Lady Angelika for posting this thread and thanks to all of those who have responded with additional information - especially MistressDREAD. *grins* some of these links i actually haven't seen before and am going to enjoy exploring them.

Well wishes

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/30/2004 2:55:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Destinysskeins
As a huge bondage freak (especially Shibari) i wanted to thank Lady Angelika for posting this thread

My pleasure Destinysskeins.

Also, I might add, if you are a huge Nawa Shibari bondage freak and want more info, message me via the collarme.com mail. About four years ago, I spent time over a year playing Shibari Bondage doll with one a partner who was quite skilled and learned quite a bit. I also know a few experts in the US.

- LA

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/31/2004 1:00:00 AM

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i have been on the end of some predicament bondage. i was positioned kneeling with all limbs effectively tied. Additionally nipple clamps were tied to the ropes as well as my cock and balls. The Mistress removed Her top and placed Her breasts near my face.

If i wanted to kiss Her breasts then i had to withstand the bondage pulling on my cock and balls and the nipple clamps. The further She moved away the greater the pain became. But the pain was worth trying to kiss Her tender breasts.
Fun.

Beltmeplease

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 8/31/2004 10:13:20 AM

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I was bound to a workout bench, had three bottles of water in an enema bag put into my ass, the hose was detached from the bag and inserted into my mouth. I was then tickled along with other tourtures. A few times the brown fluid came very close to my mouth before I was able to blow into the tube. This was harder then it may sound, one end wants to let it lose and the other wants to prevent it. The mistress commented on my ass twiching, and after an hour or so I was rewarded by being allowed to use the toilet to relieve myself.

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/4/2004 11:46:46 AM

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bobbeme, being a tickle fan, that would be really twisted position to be in. I doubt I would of survived that scene. I couldn't imagine having the focus that would be required to keep the brown liquid a bay while someone is tickling me. I think the only thing worse would be to be blindfolded part way through so you really have no clue how close the brown liquid is.

Along a similar line, I have heard of a Tickler out west that likes to bind her ticklees so that there is a rope that runs from their arms through a pulley to nipple clamps and from their balls through a pulley to their feet. If they move, the experience pain. She then tickles them as they squirm, laugh and scream. Sounds like a very interesting scenario.

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/6/2004 1:23:52 AM

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I am very much interested in PB. Unfortunately, I haven't had any real experience with it. I am more interested in the pain and enderance aspect though then the humiliation aspect.
I am very curious to know of different situations people have been placed in.

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/6/2004 12:07:40 PM

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bobbeme likes the dirty aspects…
TickleToy likes the stimulation/endurance aspects…
darkgeek001 would like to experiment the pain aspects…

A little psych 101…

I always do my best to get into my sub’s head. Predicament bondage is awesome in that it can be so personalised to make it as thrilling as possible, playing on the worries, needs, desires and fears of the sub being put into the predicament.

Got to love something so very versatile!

- LA

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/6/2004 12:26:40 PM

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I've used a non-physical form of this to train slaves to accept themselves and figure out the whole world doesn't really care about what they do. The favorite with a slave who I know well enough to have a relationship with, is to dress her up for xmass on the way to her family's --sweet holiday wear...with the nasiest undergarments, including none, I can find underneath, esp stuff that is just uncomfortable it is hard to ignore while moving.

During the visit, just discreet (important guys, if you try this, remember you're training not going for humilation) reminders of how she looks without the nice red &green holiday dress on and hitting those hot-button turn ons with her, so she can't put sex to the back of her brain.

In the end as you drive home during the talk, you show her nobody in her family had a clue, and all of her uptightness is in her own mind, it helps break down walls of shyness and faux-morality

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/6/2004 12:37:52 PM

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Interesting Shrew…

I must put myself in a Predicament everyday. I wear business attire everyday with the raciest lingerie underneath because it contributes to my overall empowerment. I work in a milieu that is still very much governed by men (I’d say more so then most) and so when I’m a meeting and I have to expose my point of view, I have a little chuckle in the back of my mind thinking how I would bring the boys to their knees if they only knew…

Ok, that was off the Predicament bondage topic.

Back on it, yes! I think the non-physical mental aspects are grand. I remember one time I went out to a club with a man who wore a very chic Italian cut business suit, cuff links, the whole powerful kit, wearing little pink frilly underwear underneath and the words ‘slut boy’ written across his chest with my red lipstick. Funny enough, we ran into some of his business clients at the lounge and I so enjoyed whispering in his ear as he schmoozed them up that I knew his dirty little secret. As you mentioned, this wasn’t humiliation play, just some of the best foreplay I’ve ever had!

- LA

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/8/2004 7:26:10 AM

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A funnel was inserted into a balloon, and then it was filled with her pee and my pee. It was then filled with air almost to the breaking point and tied off. I was lying on my back with a hard on, a block was on my belly with a ruler balanced on it. One end of the ruler had a string that went over a chair that was placed over me and held the balloon just above a pin that was sticking out of the back of the chair. The other end was placed under my dick. If my hard dick went soft, or slipped off the ruler, the baloon would pop and drench my face. To make a long story short, it took longer for the setup than the end result.

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RE: Predicament Bondage = Fun! Fun! Fun! - 9/8/2004 9:02:31 AM

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Hey Lady A,

I have a dear friend, who I just talked into getting on here, mostly cuz I want her on the boards, though for some queer reason she keeps listing herself as a sub....I suspect it's a trap *g*....anyway your underwear at work got me thinking of her.

she does a lot of high $ deal making, and power-guys might like sex but they like money more...so she goes the business suit attire a couple of dirty tricks she talks about is in the pre-meeting when only one of the oppisition is around, she 'adjusts' her garter..nto terribly ladylike but it apparently gives that edge enough for her to buy a 3rd house...I really need to marry her for the money....

when we had first met and trying to figger out who was goin' lead and who was goin' follow she took me took me to a funhouse...halloween folks jump out at you found a corner where neither visitors nor staff wandered into very often, then started the seduction, ending up biting the bejesus out of my shoulders where I was yelping, couldn't help it she's a lawyer she has them shark teeth, she kept doing the under-the-ball pinch and letting things conclude and kept biting....vividly aware that my noises were starting to compete with the ghoul-noises in the rest of the 'house'....and pretty much aware another arrest for indecet acts in public would get me jail time.

I suspect then I decided my sub days were behind me....I won't admit to being beat, but damn it was a dead-even race.

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