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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:09:49 PM   
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You need a secretary, NZ 

Is that an offer? Because...*looks around*...seriously...






Because you started all this without thinking of a way to keep track?Are you serious?




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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:10:50 PM   
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secretary yea, zN, but I see you list housework as a hard limit.



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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:12:32 PM   
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Because you started all this without thinking of a way to keep track?


Actually, because my ego wasn't inflated enough. I didn't realize people would start asking about them, for them, and what they can redeem them for...


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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:13:46 PM   
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secretary yea, zN, but I see you list housework as a hard limit.



Wouldn't that fall more under 'clerical duties' than housework?

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:16:50 PM   
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secretary yea, zN, but I see you list housework as a hard limit.



Wouldn't that fall more under 'clerical duties' than housework?


in a limited way, I suppose. but say you wanted your skivvies sorted and alphabetized by maker? We are converging on some pretty blurred lines in no time at all, see what I mean?

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 6:20:19 PM   
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Because you started all this without thinking of a way to keep track?


Actually, because my ego wasn't inflated enough. I didn't realize people would start asking about them, for them, and what they can redeem them for...



Ooooops..........oh btw I don't do housework (saw Ron's post)


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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/9/2009 11:10:51 PM   
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No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework


People say so many things ....doesn't mean they won't actually do it. If some one would start with/about cleaning instead of other lifestyle activities on the first "date" I wouldn't be happy either..lol (if I was a slave) 

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/10/2009 11:31:55 AM   
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then they arent a slave, or they are trying to be funny.

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/10/2009 5:08:08 PM   
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and yes, in the past this slave has certainly been openly pliable to be bedded by anyone assertive enough to demand it (you can't rape the willing?)or just because they ooozed "deadsexy"...but that doesn't necessarily mean this slave is incapable of the integrity required to maintain a monogamous commitment, once one has been made OR that she doesn't still have that propensity.
that propensity is now focused on ONE, because of the integrity of this slave's commitment, not because it was brought out, inspired or earned by someone else's "je ne sais quoi".

Hey, nothing wrong with that!

I've had several guys tell me that I can't be bisexual unless I'm equally attracted to men and women, or unless I'm dating one of each, or unless I've done specific sexual activities with other ladies. I think it's obnoxious when they try to force their definitions on my orientation and my relationship labels. NZ is doing exactly the same thing with slaves and submissives here. Just because I don't feel any more attracted to or any more submissive toward the vast majority of dominant straight guys than I would if they were vanilla gay men doesn't interfere with my being a slave to my Master. I have integrity, too, and apply it in various ways, but I'm generally just not tempted, since they don't show up on my radar that way. *shrugs*

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/10/2009 8:23:48 PM   
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that propensity is now focused on ONE, because of the integrity of this slave's commitment, not because it was brought out, inspired or earned by someone else's "je ne sais quoi".


May I ask?  What led you to make the commitment, if it was not inspired by something in the person to whom you made it?


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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/10/2009 11:36:22 PM   
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then they arent a slave, or they are trying to be funny.


slaves are humans to..with opinions, feelings, thoughts, homour...sometimes they say things...and still do what you tell them...

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 12:31:37 AM   
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NZ is doing exactly the same thing with slaves and submissives here. Just because I don't feel any more attracted to or any more submissive toward the vast majority of dominant straight guys than I would if they were vanilla gay men doesn't interfere with my being a slave to my Master. I have integrity, too, and apply it in various ways, but I'm generally just not tempted, since they don't show up on my radar that way. *shrugs*

There's a bit of a difference when "slave" is used by someone in a relationship describing the role they feel they play in it (at which point, despite how skewed the application of the term might be, it matters functionally only to the people in the relationship) and when it's used by someone seeking a partner. Unless, of course, (in the latter case) the person advertising themselves doesn't mind losing business due to false advertisement wrought from fixation of applying a term to themselves that isn't going to jive with most window-shoppers.

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 7:51:50 AM   
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that propensity is now focused on ONE, because of the integrity of this slave's commitment, not because it was brought out, inspired or earned by someone else's "je ne sais quoi".


May I ask?  What led you to make the commitment, if it was not inspired by something in the person to whom you made it?



employing this slave's
experience...both in life and with the person offering the commitment.
&
intellect...careful thought and consideration about what that sort of commitment would mean, to this slave's life and to His.
 
this slave's experiences with inspiration have nothing to do with the choice of who she enters into committed relationships with.  for example, last year, this slave was inspired to make a Queen Bee Halloween costume after discussing bee-hive hairdo's with the hairdresser.
 
it was an idea that just popped into this slave's head.
 
this slave can't imagine entering into a commitment as serious as to be another's slave by the same process.
 
not that there is anything wrong with those who do...this slave just can't relate to it.

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 8:20:09 AM   
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then they arent a slave, or they are trying to be funny.


I will have you know that I break out in a huge rash whenever I try to do housework. Yes, that's right a huge....errrrr....itchy...rash yeah that's it a huge itchy rash *tries to look innocent*


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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 8:38:04 AM   
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then they arent a slave, or they are trying to be funny.


i have been known to say... "im not going to do that".. or.. simply "no".. as im walking off to do just as im told. and if im feeling frisky, i may sit there to watch the expression on a man's face as i say "no", knowing im going to do what im told, but i just gotta see what he is going to do with me at that moment.

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 9:01:14 AM   
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I dont do much housework here. But it really has nothing to do with limits. It has to do with practicality. I am out the door at 6am to go to work, Im home about 1pm. Daddy leaves as soon as I get home so he can go to work. I take over our UMs and start homeschooling our three boys. Im usually halfway through some science project or history lesson when Daddy gets back home and I need to start dinner. After Dinner its Cub Scouts or Martial arts or Soccer or whatever sport or club is happening. We get home usually around 9pm and I start bathing UMs and shooing them off to bed. Then I sit down at the computer and plan out school lessons for the next day. By the time I manage to get that nights dishes rinsed off and stuck in the dishwasher, Ive barely enough time to get myself bathed and cleaned up and HOPE for a small amount of Daddys time before we need to fall asleep ourselves. About one weekend a month a manage to get the yard mowed, occassionally I get a day I can devote to housework, but usually when I DO have free time, Daddy would prefer I concentrate on him and not the house. We have three boys, the oldest does the laundry and takes care of the animals. the middle one sweeps and vacuums, and the littlest one dusts. At least they are participating and it definitely helps, but its OBVIOUS my house was cleaned by three boys under 10. It drives me batty but I have learned to deal with it. We just cant afford a maid or a nanny or a whatever right now. I doubt we ever would be able to. Id love to have a nice and tidy clean home. Maybe someday when all the boys graduate college it will happen. Housework isnt a limit for me, it just isnt a priority either right now.

Occasionally I get a wild hair up my ass and decide I should take a slave just to do the housework. But I know it would never happen. I start to feel all weepy and inadequate and depressed thinking about the fact that I have to force someone else to handle all the things I ought to be able to take care of myself.


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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/11/2009 10:15:45 AM   
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Alright, Yall convinced me...lmao...just to see...I changed my profile to specifically look for a maid.....we'll see.....

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/12/2009 8:11:48 AM   
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There's a bit of a difference when "slave" is used by someone in a relationship describing the role they feel they play in it (at which point, despite how skewed the application of the term might be, it matters functionally only to the people in the relationship) and when it's used by someone seeking a partner. Unless, of course, (in the latter case) the person advertising themselves doesn't mind losing business due to false advertisement wrought from fixation of applying a term to themselves that isn't going to jive with most window-shoppers.

Ah, I hadn't realised from your previous posts that you were only referring to unattached people. I still don't think that someone who has been a slave in the past, and hopes to be one in the future (and presumably is only interested in that dynamic, if they choose that orientation when they are unpartnered) must necessarily be submissive to everyone. If they don't actually have any previous experience as a slave, though, I think that choosing that orientation is misleading. Even if they have been in a M/s relationship previously, if it was strictly online, they need to be up-front with potential partners about it, as experiences and expectations will be *very* different, for obvious reasons.

When I was looking, I advertised as a "switch," and still have it listed as my orientation, and I think my profile makes it pretty clear what kind of dynamics I'm involved in.

beth, "inspiration" has more than one meaning. I'm not inspired to submit to my Master the way I'm inspired to write a poem, bake a dessert, or decide what to wear for Halloween. I react to him that way, he draws it from me, he pushes my submissive buttons, however you want to put it. Lots of words (including slave) have more than one meaning, and depend upon context.

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/12/2009 9:03:03 AM   
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beth, "inspiration" has more than one meaning. I'm not inspired to submit to my Master the way I'm inspired to write a poem, bake a dessert, or decide what to wear for Halloween. I react to him that way, he draws it from me, he pushes my submissive buttons, however you want to put it. Lots of words (including slave) have more than one meaning, and depend upon context.


Andalusite,
 
thanks for sharing your thoughts.  this slave is happy for anyone who finds joy in submission~how they percieve it-as a reaction, as a choice, as an inspiration, etc- will undoubtedly be unique to that individual and this slave fully expects that.
 
how this slave puts it, or percieves it, wasn't trotted out as a "One-True-Way", it is merely "beth's way" and isn't intended to be "one-size-fits-all".

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RE: No Limits Slaves Who Say They Won't Do Housework - 10/12/2009 9:18:31 AM   
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how this slave puts it, or percieves it, wasn't trotted out as a "One-True-Way", it is merely "beth's way" and isn't intended to be "one-size-fits-all".

Yes yes, but if we didn't all assume that you looked down on us all for not being more beth-like, then where would we get all the ridiculously defensive rebuttals from? After all, how can those who have never successfully constructed any sort of relationship find personal self-worth unless they rip down yours?

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