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DarkSteven -> RE: A thread for diabetics (7/16/2010 6:56:30 AM)

lifesjourney, your story sounds similar to mine in terms of not willing to let the damn disease ruin my life.  Maybe it's a Dom kinda thing.



lifesjourney -> RE: A thread for diabetics (7/16/2010 10:54:17 AM)

In the way we handled it I agree it is a case of step up to the plate thing. I can also see a submissive or slave doing the same thing that are not collared and doing something similar, though with the mind set of "How can I serve a future Master/Mistress if I am not healthy enough to do so?" While both ways can accomplish the same things I think it is the mental aspect of each side that leads us to the same goal........hope that made sense?



thornhappy -> RE: A thread for diabetics (7/16/2010 7:18:58 PM)

Keeeeewwwwlllllllll!
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I just saw the doctor Tuesday and my A1C is 5.4!!!!!  [:)]

That's just from reducing carbs and taking metformin and vitamins... I still need to start to exercise.



KMsAngel -> RE: A thread for diabetics (7/17/2010 4:32:15 AM)

sigh. can i have a vial of your blood please, steven?

btw, something that's not been mentioned at all is legumes, beans, etc. low gi. lotsa protein.

i've just made a crock pot full of kidney beans, white barlotti beans, diced turkey, crushed tomatoes, onion and garlic. that stews all day then gets put into the fridge. i take it to work with me most days. i throw a spoonful of lowfat cottage cheese in it for extra protein (i have difficulty getting enough protein into me on a day to day business).

works really well this time of year down here, as it's a vy warming dish.

also, warming spices such as paprika and cumin work well in stews. even cinnamon!

i'm redoing my diabetes education classes as well. been too long since i've been and they keep changing the information! i have to keep an eye out for stevia, as it doesn't appear to be common down here.



MasterC70 -> RE: A thread for diabetics (7/29/2010 3:51:19 AM)

I have had type 1 diabetes for 10 yrs (since 1999) and have learned a few tricks.  One is to always carry glucose tablets with you in case of a low while out and about.  Another is to keep something with sugar in it next to your bed at night in case you wake up with a major low.  I had that happen once. Woke up with a low of 45 and finding something to eat when low in the middle of the night is no fun. Also keep a portable light source such as a flashlight that doesn't need batteries near your bed in case you have a low and the power is out.  As you age the way your body processes the insulin you take also changes so don't be surprised if you need your insulin adjusted.  The same thing happens if you gain weight.  Also be careful how you read carbs and servings on cans of food.  For example something might have 32 grams of carb in a serving but have 2 servings per can for a total of 64 grams.  Wearing a medical alert bracelet that identifies you as being diabetic is a good idea as well so that if you are out and about and pass out someone can determine what is wrong quickly.



ProlificNeeds -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/1/2010 11:08:46 PM)

I'm a type 2, though was put on a heavy insulin and metformin regime after illness in the spring. Slowly working off the insulin again so I have less immediate control over the highs if I botch which means back to diet control.

One of the things I noticed is.. despite the myths or 'my friends', cousins' uncle's grandmother swears by...' is never accurate. Each person's body can react differently. Example? I can't have orange juice, it just floors my sugars, for some reason I don't process it well. But apple, or grape juice? No sweat at all!

Another helpful tip, learning how 'fast' each food digests for you. If you mix your meals so your sugar intake is 'gradual' instead of all at once, it makes the difference between enjoying a good meal, and starving yourself or trying to contrantly juggle highs and lows. If you have a quick digesting carb with a non-processed cut of lean meat, you're going to end up with the carb hit first, your meat as it breaks down slower, ends up coming later. Your meal sugars can stay with you for 2-4 hours, so trying to pick a variety of foods that will break down at different rates I found kept me from having that roller coaster of high and low after meals.

Also a good habit I got into, a big glass of water and a 15 min brisk walk in the morning before eating/testing, since I always seemed to come up a bit higher than I should in the mornings. It's made a big difference for my overall daily results, since my body isn't struggling over the 'hump' in the mornings now to begin with.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 2:05:05 PM)

If you have medicare and you qualify, liberty medical will send you your medication supplies for free. Or so the comercials say, I've never checked it out.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

As some of you know, I was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of months ago.  I've learned a lot in that time and was hoping to exchange tips with others.  Here are mine:

1. Wavesense makes a glucometer thsat seems to be at least as good as any other out there, and the disposable testing strips cost $10 for 100 at the Kroger chains, as opposed to the name brands that charge $100 for 100.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 2:19:57 PM)

I have never heard that diabetics are supposed to eat a lot of starchy foods. In fact I was told to stay away from a lot of pasta's and breads.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

. I was appalled to find that a lot of the starchy foods diabetics are supposed to eat a lot of (pasta and bread in particular), are full of the stuff.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 2:23:11 PM)

It's interesting and ironic how much conflicting information is out there. I have been told sweet potato's are good for you, and you can do no wrong eating one, even if diabetic, and some people will say you should avoid them.

I was also told by someone potato's are bad for you and had others pooh pooh that notion.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Thanks for confirming, GM.  The rules as I've been told are basically:

1. Minimize carbs to 45-60 grams per meal and 15-20 per snack.
2. Vegetables (except for potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, beans, and peas) - unlimited.





ProlificNeeds -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 2:33:28 PM)

I've been told sweet potatos are very good for you. For me, I can have a large helping of them and not have any problems with my sugars two hours later. Perhaps some people deal with them better than others? I've never had too much problem with regular potatos either, but they contain far less helpful nutrients than sweet potatos.

On the topic of breads my mother says she saw something on TV about diabetic healthy eating and they had mentioned pumpernickle bread is actually very good for you and has a low impact on your blood sugar, also that Rye bread (possibly dark rye? I forget exactly what she told me) is better for you than just wholewheat. I suppose milage can vary on those too depending on the individual. Unfortunately I don't care much for pumpernickle or rye, so I stick to my wholewheat.

My one downfall, pasta, I looove pasta. Sadly about the only tip I've found on pasta's is, if you cook it al dente, so it's firmer, it will take longer to break down and thus not raise your sugars so quickly, giving your body more time to deal with it. I've never seen anything that suggests wholewheat pasta's are any better than regular pasta's though I'm sure they must have some difference.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 2:42:04 PM)

hey youuuuuuuuuuu, where'd you disappear off to? I am  your hand my ass, I think that was my name I had last time we were talking.

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ORIGINAL: ImpressMeFirst



Chell/aka the former PanthersMom



xXsoumisXx -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 4:03:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

I've been told sweet potatos are very good for you. For me, I can have a large helping of them and not have any problems with my sugars two hours later. Perhaps some people deal with them better than others? I've never had too much problem with regular potatos either, but they contain far less helpful nutrients than sweet potatos.

On the topic of breads my mother says she saw something on TV about diabetic healthy eating and they had mentioned pumpernickle bread is actually very good for you and has a low impact on your blood sugar, also that Rye bread (possibly dark rye? I forget exactly what she told me) is better for you than just wholewheat. I suppose milage can vary on those too depending on the individual. Unfortunately I don't care much for pumpernickle or rye, so I stick to my wholewheat.

My one downfall, pasta, I looove pasta. Sadly about the only tip I've found on pasta's is, if you cook it al dente, so it's firmer, it will take longer to break down and thus not raise your sugars so quickly, giving your body more time to deal with it. I've never seen anything that suggests wholewheat pasta's are any better than regular pasta's though I'm sure they must have some difference.


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/healthier-bowl-pasta

Barilla Plus

This stuff is great, can't really tell the difference from regular white pasta.
It is all we use. Not diabetic, but just wanted to be more healthy.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/2/2010 8:13:52 PM)

Moonhead, I know every one is different and type 1 is different than type two, but the nutritionist I went to said not to use chocolates, and so do all the health pamphlets I have personally read on diabetes. They said hard candy or eat something with protein in it.
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead



That's interesting. I've never had any trouble using chocolate to deal with hypoglaecemia.



Moonhead -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 6:21:14 AM)

Right. I think the thing with chocolate is that it's often a bit fatty, which can slow down your body's absorption of sugar from it. Hard candy has less fat in it, but I wouldn't fancy trying to get through a packet of boiled sweets when I'm having trouble thinking straight: a hypo's bad enough without choking on something.

May I ask which type of diabetes you have, Topping? The plenty of carbs is a type 1 thing, as insulin injections let you digest more of the stuff than people with type 2, who need to be a lot more careful about what they eat. The hard candy advice sounds like a type 1 method of treating a hypo, but the protein thing and cutting carbs as much as possible sounds more like treatment for type 2.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 9:13:07 AM)

Pre diabetic Type 2. The dr says exercise and proper diet is enough to manage it right now, but I admit I am woeful on both fronts.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead



May I ask which type of diabetes you have, Topping?



angelikaJ -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 9:38:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Pre diabetic Type 2. The dr says exercise and proper diet is enough to manage it right now, but I admit I am woeful on both fronts.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead



May I ask which type of diabetes you have, Topping?



Tfb
The thing is, you are at a point where you CAN do something about it.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but is this a matter of "Oh, well, they can just give me a pill."
Or is it that changing your diet and adding exercise requires discipline and committment and effort?

There is nothing woeful about this.
This is a choice you are willfully making about your health that will have long term consequences for the rest of your life.
There is no "later", no "in a minute", no "when I get to it" or no "I will do it tomorrow".
This is a choice you make every moment of every day.
This is your life.

You do have chances to make another choice, but you can't change your mind once you have issues with your health... you can't suddenly say, I didn't mean for this to happen, because then it will be too late.

Btw: Pre-diabetic means your sugars ARE higher than they should be... having higher sugars can make you tired.
Pre-diabetes and insulin resistance

Reversing this is a much better option than letting it progress.

edit: spelling



ProlificNeeds -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 11:24:17 AM)

Actually if you're suffering a medication low, below 4.0 mmol/l you should drink a small(250ml/1cup serving should do) serving of juice or soda first, the sugar rush will stop the decrease, and put you up over the danger mark. Then you eat something that will carry you through to your next meal. If you are dangerously low (usually only a risk with insulin or some pill uses, I know novo-glyburide is one) food takes too long to digest and you could end up even worse off if you don't stop the low trend quickly. Liquids take very little time to break into your blood stream.



Moonhead -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 11:39:46 AM)

How does a medication low relate to what Topping's saying about the trouble she's having turning around lifelong problems that have led her into a prediabetic state in the first place?



thornhappy -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 3:56:01 PM)

Look down at the lower right.  She's talking to angelika using fast reply.



angelikaJ -> RE: A thread for diabetics (8/3/2010 5:12:39 PM)

With the context, it seems as though she was referring to post # 114?



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