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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 12:34:31 PM

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what it boils down to, imho, is deciding you are worth the effort.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 12:34:43 PM

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The OP is only 26 years old. It is certainly not to late to make some life changing decisions. She is probably 50 lbs. overweight. Her 'daddy' drinks a case of soda per week. They are on a path to a shortened life.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 12:42:48 PM

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She is worth the effort.

Her daddy also has to be responsible, though, and drop that case of soda per week. No soda at all is the way.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 1:31:37 PM

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stevia in iced tea is a good substitute for sodas.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 2:37:40 PM

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The OP is only 26 years old. It is certainly not to late to make some life changing decisions. She is probably 50 lbs. overweight. Her 'daddy' drinks a case of soda per week. They are on a path to a shortened life.

I don't see Holly's comment as saying it may not be worth the effort, but as her telling the OP she needs to see that she is worth the effort - and to do it for herself.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 4:59:14 PM

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I try really hard to but it's a vicious cycle cause exercise aggravates the problem then you're to weak to do anything an then your bone joints stiffen up. I'm a lot more active than I was, and If I am exercising butnot with Ginger Ie walking the mall with a friend, I'll get daddy to run Ginger about the yard, so they both get their hear rate going as did I

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Tfb,
If you've been diagnosed with arthritis of any kind, that would explain your pain. And it's REALLY important to stay as mobile as possible. I know you don't want to hear this either... cuz I certainly didn't.... PLEASE lose weight, not for anyone but yourself.

You're only in your 20's. I've had many of the same physical health issues you are experiencing when I was in my 20's. I wish SO badly that I would have taken better care of my body, because I wouldn't have near the pain that I do now. I'll be 47 this month, and hon, it does NOT get better as you age.

I'm full blown diabetic, and on 2 injections and 3 pills a day for it.
I have arthritis in my knees and back, and should take stock in Aleve, as most prescription painkillers would leave me too groggy to work.

Both of these things could have been put off until much later, had I only listened. But, I was young, and I "knew more than they did". Guess what, I didn't. I needed to get of my sedentary, lazy, tv/computer/video game addicted butt, get exercise, and get control over my body. So, if sometimes my posts to you sound a little harsh, it's because I care, and don't want to see ANYONE go through what I do.

So, next time you think about putting off walking your dog, or taking a walk by yourself, even, just think to yourself... "Sure, I don't want to do this, but I need to do this, and I will feel better 20 years from now for doing it today". You are worth the effort.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 6:27:48 PM

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Calla yes it he;[s and I'll reply to everything once I am lucid enought o, but I need something that don't depend on you to take it everyda or take it in and out an put it back in an out ect y, and that only leaves depo and norplant implants and norplants can scar you and can scar and be felt through the skin and can get lost in your body, and IUD's are not recomended for women who have not had kids and not an opetion I'd consider given how many epople have had proble.

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TftB,

Oh, and I know someone else mentioned it, but I'd -really- consider choosing a different form (non-hormonal) of birth control once you are done with this cycle of depo provera. The combination of your size and the hormones is a virtual disaster for the cardiovascular and musculoskeletal system, and can also begin affecting your level of insulin resistance and accumulation of intra-arterial deposits leading to arterial sclerosis.

Take care of yourself!
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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 9:42:20 PM

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I would love to talk to your doctor that said you had 'wear and tear' at age 26. Give me a break. What are going to do in 5 years, 10 years or 20 years from now ? I have wear and tear to. It is from working for the phone company outside in Wisconsin winters for 33 years. It is spending my life pulling 150 lb. manhole covers and climbing phone poles. I am 57. At your age, you should just excersise, lose some weight, and start eating right. You will be fine.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/6/2009 10:17:52 PM

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One thing that -doesn't- help is when people try to make it sound like we just need to get off our fat, lazy asses and lose some weight, like there's nothing to it... "just snap the fingers, push away from the table, and you're as good as thin." It really -isn't- that easy for most folks.

Amen to it all, but especially this part. This is how one doctor of mine just got fired recently. I came to him for tools. I walked away from his office with a healthy dose of guilt with a side order of hopelessness. Pain and fatigue are two things that absolutely have to be managed up front before significant progress can be made in other areas. If I can't get out of bed, running the track and fixing a homecooked meal are probably out of the question too.

I am more than happy to do my part, chomping at the bit actually. I want my life back. I am about the most highly motivated person there is. One thing I will not abide is someone telling me that my best isn't good enough and then refusing me the very help that could bring my best to a level that will finally meet with success. It is frustrating to hear people say it is so damned easy. It is like a judgement on those for whom it simply isn't that easy. The simplistic attitude is also derogatory to a person's intelligence. I know the right things to do to lose weight. I do them as much as possible. I'm not an idiot. I am probably more current on my health and nutrition information than 95% of the at weight population. I am not lazy. I am not stupid. I am not in any way deficient. I have other issues that need addressing. It is truly that simple. I will do what I can while I wait, but I absolutely will NOT feel guilty or judged because I cannot make water into wine. I can only do my best. I expect my health professionals to do the same.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 7:21:05 AM

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I have many injuries to my spine falling from a horse twice,when I went horse back riding, and then subsequent injuries from the dr's not managing my back complaints properly and re injuring it. I have chronic and severe back problems, it's not uncommon for 26 year olds to have wear and tear, IF they have a history of back trama and I do.

So I'd appreciate it if you didn't dispense medical advice about who is and who is not injured or who just needs to loos weight when you do not know my medical history, and my dr does.

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I would love to talk to your doctor that said you had 'wear and tear' at age 26. Give me a break. What are going to do in 5 years, 10 years or 20 years from now ? I have wear and tear to. It is from working for the phone company outside in Wisconsin winters for 33 years. It is spending my life pulling 150 lb. manhole covers and climbing phone poles. I am 57. At your age, you should just excersise, lose some weight, and start eating right. You will be fine.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 7:51:28 AM

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Well topping. I am 58 now and have also suffered from back pains for over 30 years. However it is not so much a weight problem but a lifestyle problem. Looking at your picture in your profile, I must say that unless you really do something about it, those signs of wear and tear are going to get so much worse as the years pass. There is only one person who can help you, and that is yourself. When I was in my middle thirties I was in a situation where work wise I spend more time on my ass behind a pc or similar things and I did put on a lot of weight. I did one day realize that it was very unhealthy and started a different way of living. The first few months were absolute hell, but then it slowly started becoming more and more fun. I got lots of energy, felt sexier and lived a lot more. Sadly enough when I came in to my fifties it has gone a bit downhill and the pounds reappeared again. But then it was worth all the effort back then. I never regretted it a single day.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 8:01:40 AM

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rockspider, did you see all the pictures? Sure we're sitting down in the main one, but that's because you couldn't fit every one into a hotel photo shot in the lobby and not sit down.

If you mean weight, yup I am 318 and I need to loose weight and I've been trying so hard but not getting naywhere because medical professionals don't take fat people seriouslly. I'm checked into a program now where he'll treat the spine problems as well as treat the health symptoms an it's gonna be expensive but maybe I can get part of my medicare or medical which ever one they use to take part responcibility.

you know what makes being so fat 10 times worse was I used to be very skinny then due to some cercumstances out side my control and trying to be helpful I began over eating in a group home to help my room mates not get zero's and losses of privilage so the group home would let you eat 5 meal helpings at a time no kidding, and then wouldn't let you exercise because they were a level 14 group home and couldn't allow you outside unless you had out door privilages and most us with behavior issues didn't. so it was a huge cause and effect because I was helping out others and killing myself at the same time, they finally did see a problem and impliment a work out routine for the girls but by then it was to late I went from a 16 to a 24. anbd then I was loosing weight and was back down to 200 an the horse injury happend an for 3 years I couldn't walk much move much do much of anything couldn't even take care of my own hygein. and finally bgan falling.

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Well topping. I am 58 now and have also suffered from back pains for over 30 years. However it is not so much a weight problem but a lifestyle problem. Looking at your picture in your profile, I must say that unless you really do something about it, those signs of wear and tear are going to get so much worse as the years pass. There is only one person who can help you, and that is yourself. When I was in my middle thirties I was in a situation where work wise I spend more time on my ass behind a pc or similar things and I did put on a lot of weight. I did one day realize that it was very unhealthy and started a different way of living. The first few months were absolute hell, but then it slowly started becoming more and more fun. I got lots of energy, felt sexier and lived a lot more. Sadly enough when I came in to my fifties it has gone a bit downhill and the pounds reappeared again. But then it was worth all the effort back then. I never regretted it a single day.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 8:01:49 AM

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Ever hear of iatrogenic diseases?

First rule of Rule: never trust a physician. If he is any good, he would have no patients. (They would all be healthy.)

I think thats the single most stupidist think ever said .

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 9:14:01 AM

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Ever hear of iatrogenic diseases?

First rule of Rule: never trust a physician. If he is any good, he would have no patients. (They would all be healthy.)

I think thats the single most stupidist think ever said .

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 1:01:36 PM

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stevia in iced tea is a good substitute for sodas.

My substitute is putting carbonated water on a bed of crushed ice and then adding a bit of fruit juice for taste. Low carb and all natural.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 1:27:42 PM

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Tfb,
If you've been diagnosed with arthritis of any kind, that would explain your pain.

Very true, though pain and stiffness can also be horendous without having arthritis when you have fibromyalgia, as my previous GP dismissed my pain as being related to my weight (as arthritis test was negative in my case)...which "really" made sense considering at times my arms did hurt like mad

(he gave me dicloflenac and for him it was done...though needless to say, that does not help in any way for my condition and thank goodness my new GP, after my move, did listen to what I was saying and now I am on the right medication instead of swallowing stuff which I shouldn't swallow in the first place as it is unsuitable for my condition).

However, yes when you have been diagnosed with arthritis, then yes, it explains your pain.

Also considering with my different diagnosis I can also confirm that exercising does help (though I can't talk about athritis and osteoarthritis etc...as I have no knowledge about that) as I have my condition since I was 10 (just never had a name for it and considered it as being normal to be in pain about 300 days a year) but I could cope well as I did exercises 3-7 days a week...currently I am on my way to get back to it...

regarding weightloss...yes, look into it, I will email you in that respect.

Regarding Rule's comment:

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What I would do if I were her, was to go to a university library that has a subscription to the article that I googled and read that article (and if possible make a copy on a usb stick and cmail me that copy).

if it helps I am also happy to give you the log in details from my uni's online library (I am in a joint uni, which means I can access articles from magazines where my uni pays their subscription fee to them but am also able to access the online library from the other uni they work in partnership with (which is mainly a medical uni btw); therefore I can log to articles from two different unis which was recently a blessing when I wanted to print a research article but was turned down as my main uni does not subscribe to them....so I tried it via the joint uni and so thankfully got the article I needed.

That would enable you to look into it if you want to (as I am currently overloaded with uni demands I am unfortunately not able to have a look for you). Good luck

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 4:46:46 PM

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Dame Calla, thank you for your information about an anti-inflammatory diet. I have fibromyalgia and have constant pain from the inflammation. I am currently following (or trying to follow, lol) The Formula diet, which is very similar to The Zone. I will have to add the fish oil supplements since I only eat fish about once a week.

I have noticed that when my pain is really bad, I crave protein. I always thought I was crazy, but it sounds like maybe there really is a medical reason.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 4:53:33 PM

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Hi, OP. I would like to suggest you look into the Gazelle for exercise. It's a very low impact excerise machine. I have one, and it's actually kind of fun! They make a scaled-down version of it called the Edge, and a more "bells and whistles" model called the Freestyle.

I have fibromyalgia, so I know what it's like to be in constant pain. I wish you the best!

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/7/2009 4:57:05 PM

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thank you for all the offers of help I had to go to the er this morning because I was in a lot of pain and it turns out I have a kidney infection because kiaser mis managed treating me for a UTI for two months, so I am kind of woosy and drugged since the noise at the hospital ER was panicking me. I'll form coherent replies to you all asasp.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 5:36:58 AM

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If you mean weight, yup I am 318 and I need to loose weight and I've been trying so hard but not getting naywhere because medical professionals don't take fat people seriouslly.

The medical professionals do not lift the fork to your mouth.

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