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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:14:35 AM   
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Umm Tfb, didn't you say you and your boyfriend live pretty much on TV dinners, when the freezer froze didn't you say what was yours in there was two cartons of icecream?  Didn't you JUST start getting some exercise? 

You know medical professionals have nothing to do with you losing weight or gaining weight.  They are only able to ADVISE and RECOMMEND treatment -- its up to you to facilitate treatments such as losing weight, getting exercise etc.  They can and many times do advise and recommend certain types of plans, but they do not sit down with patients usually and spell out the specifics.  They may prescribe medication that may help but they may not like to do that because of the side effects.  So no, its YOUR fault that you haven't watched your diet or exercise. 

Yes, you are now starting to do so and that is great, but DON'T start making excuses of its anyone other than yourself.  Part of losing weight especially a lot of weight has to do with being open and honest with yourself and taking responsibility and dealing head on with issues, it also involves work and focus every day to maintain a forward movement of achievement.  Every day you put veggies in your mouth instead of some fast food thing or non nutritious thing is a movement forward.  Every day you make the right choices of what to eat and do, its a movement forward, every day you go out and get exercise is a movement forward.  All doctors can do is prescribe a treatment, they cannot legally make someone follow it. 

So its time to start accepting responsibility instead of making excuses -- change your mind and move forward.  You will start to see changes.  It does not happen over night but from day to day you DO need to have dedication.  ITs not easy and its not fun, but it sounds like in your case it is now very necessary.  You''ve done really well of late having a new attitude about all this working out getting exercise trying to eat healthy -- MAINTAIN that attitude, don't allow yourself to start making excuses now.  Hang in there, its not always easy but it is worth it in the end.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:39:34 AM   
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thank you for all the offers of help I had to go to the er this morning because I was in a lot of pain and it turns out I have a kidney infection because kiaser mis managed treating me for a UTI for two months, so I am kind of woosy and drugged since the noise at the hospital ER was panicking me. I'll form coherent replies to you all asasp.


How did they mis manage a kidney infection ?  I am surprised you aren't in full blown sepsis, if you had an untreated UTI/kidney infection for that long.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:43:08 AM   
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 kept saying since october I have a uti I need treatment and they didn't test the urin they kept asking  me to give sammples of, I gave samples like 5 times and 5 times they didn't test it for results or something because even though the dr told me to go put  in the pee kiaser never got back to me about it and I called like every week with urinary problem complaints. well the ER was the one to find out I had a kidney infection. So kiaser taking so long to take action it was a uti now it's a kidney infection, and it sure explains why my flanks and tummy area always hurt when I had to pee.


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How did they mis manage a kidney infection ?  I am surprised you aren't in full blown sepsis, if you had an untreated UTI/kidney infection for that long.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:46:38 AM   
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I've been trying to exercise for a long long time, but I never knew why it hurt to do anything, my main post was about finally figuring out why I am in so much pain, In ever said they have responsibility to fix my weight, I said they had responcibility in not handling the complaints of a UTI properly.

not sure where the other part of your post comes from since I don't blame medical professionals for my weight, and explaining things, like the group home and I used to be skinny, isn't passing blame or not accepting blame, it is simply explaining what happend and why, and if people see that as an excuse that's ok. I don't control their perceptions of the information I give.
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Umm Tfb, didn't you say you and your boyfriend live pretty much on TV dinners, when the freezer froze didn't you say what was yours in there was two cartons of icecream?  Didn't you JUST start getting some exercise? 

You know medical professionals have nothing to do with you losing weight or gaining weight.  They are only able to ADVISE and RECOMMEND treatment -- its up to you to facilitate treatments such as losing weight, getting exercise etc.  They can and many times do advise and recommend certain types of plans, but they do not sit down with patients usually and spell out the specifics.  They may prescribe medication that may help but they may not like to do that because of the side effects.  So no, its YOUR fault that you haven't watched your diet or exercise. 

Yes, you are now starting to do so and that is great, but DON'T start making excuses of its anyone other than yourself.  Part of losing weight especially a lot of weight has to do with being open and honest with yourself and taking responsibility and dealing head on with issues, it also involves work and focus every day to maintain a forward movement of achievement.  Every day you put veggies in your mouth instead of some fast food thing or non nutritious thing is a movement forward.  Every day you make the right choices of what to eat and do, its a movement forward, every day you go out and get exercise is a movement forward.  All doctors can do is prescribe a treatment, they cannot legally make someone follow it. 

So its time to start accepting responsibility instead of making excuses -- change your mind and move forward.  You will start to see changes.  It does not happen over night but from day to day you DO need to have dedication.  ITs not easy and its not fun, but it sounds like in your case it is now very necessary.  You''ve done really well of late having a new attitude about all this working out getting exercise trying to eat healthy -- MAINTAIN that attitude, don't allow yourself to start making excuses now.  Hang in there, its not always easy but it is worth it in the end.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:57:43 AM   
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I think she called it osteoarthritis, and now I am wondering what could that mean,  and I'll have a letter from her soon explaining what she found, cause they sent it on the first an it'll arrive by the 10th, I wonder if all this sitting down I do could cause it, or if my depo is causing it because I been on depo for four years or more.


All these questions ones mind ponders at 9 pm.


My doctor told me we didn't need to spend the additional funds for actual proof.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 6:58:07 AM   
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I only read what you wrote --
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If you mean weight, yup I am 318 and I need to loose weight and I've been trying so hard but not getting naywhere because medical professionals don't take fat people seriouslly. ..
  and then you went on to say how this place you were in made you gain weight etc.  It appears you have placed the blame on your gaining and not being able to lose on others.  If you don't do then that's great but only YOU actually know if you do or don't.  What i am saying which you may have missed is MANY people who are overweight, out of shape etc blame other things other than choices they have made to lose weight.  That is usually how they get overweight, excuses, denial, instant gratification over working at something etc BUT more so is self sabotage.  While you may have a legitimate reason you can't lose weight, you won't lose what weight you can lose outside of medical issues IF you focus on why you can't instead of why you can. 

As i have said, you have done well in changing your mind and focusing on trying to lose weight and get exercise, -- don't let the i can'ts because of this and this hinder the success you have made by making better choices.   I am speaking from experience i am one of the BIGGEST excuse makers regarding being in or out of shape and losing weight.  But in the end, all the excuses do is add more pain on my already pained body lol. 

You've been doing good -- keep looking at the positive i cans because  instead of the negative i can'ts because or i am hindered because.

angel

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:00:24 AM   
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Water Aerobics is great for those with joint issues. they are usually available at the local YMCA. Memebership is based on income. So if you have little, your fees will be small.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:04:04 AM   
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I would suggest you go to your primary care physician and get a full work up to rule out kidney disease. Given your edema and pylemephritis, they could be symptoms of something more seroius. Or not. But I would want it ruled out if I were in your shoes.

5 urine samples and 5 times they did not test it or give you results ? Speaking just for me : it wouldn't have taken 5 times. If no one would give me an answer after the first sample, my ass would be in the Dr. office, demanding my test results.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:22:20 AM   
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Oh lol thanks for explaining, I did say that, what I meant is they nevr consider you have other pain besides being fat, so they never do tests, they never investigate they just keep telling you loose weighty you'll be fine.

And you will be fine eventually maybe, but they do have a responcibility to find out if you're body is messed up first before just writing it off as "to fat"


And I did explain how I got so fat, yup,  I was trying to help my friends not get a zero, and I over ate, and really it don't mean shit why now , the point is it happend, but it's a chunk of information people may understand things better with, I was never fat,  until then, and I was loosing weight and got injured.

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I only read what you wrote --
quote:

If you mean weight, yup I am 318 and I need to loose weight and I've been trying so hard but not getting naywhere because medical professionals don't take fat people seriouslly. ..
  and then you went on to say how this place you were in made you gain weight etc.  It appears you have placed the blame on your gaining and not being able to lose on others.  If you don't do then that's great but only YOU actually know if you do or don't.
As i have said, you have done well in changing your mind and focusing on trying to lose weight and get exercise, -- don't let the i can'ts because of this and this hinder the success you have made by making better choices.   I am speaking from experience i am one of the BIGGEST excuse makers regarding being in or out of shape and losing weight.  But in the end, all the excuses do is add more pain on my already pained body lol. 

You've been doing good -- keep looking at the positive i cans because  instead of the negative i can'ts because or i am hindered because.

angel

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:25:02 AM   
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I know I should of barged in there and been like excuse me, but I can be over patient sometimes, so perhaps I was to permisssive in not banging down the door figurativly not litterally and saying yoohoo get me results.

I got an appointment on monday for my uti problems and I am going to insist we do some tests, and if she won't my other insurance coverage will and if I have to go out of pocket I will.
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I would suggest you go to your primary care physician and get a full work up to rule out kidney disease. Given your edema and pylemephritis, they could be symptoms of something more seroius. Or not. But I would want it ruled out if I were in your shoes.

5 urine samples and 5 times they did not test it or give you results ? Speaking just for me : it wouldn't have taken 5 times. If no one would give me an answer after the first sample, my ass would be in the Dr. office, demanding my test results.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:38:45 AM   
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I would suggest you go to your primary care physician and get a full work up to rule out kidney disease. Given your edema and pylemephritis, they could be symptoms of something more seroius. Or not. But I would want it ruled out if I were in your shoes.

5 urine samples and 5 times they did not test it or give you results ? Speaking just for me : it wouldn't have taken 5 times. If no one would give me an answer after the first sample, my ass would be in the Dr. office, demanding my test results.


As someone who works in Healthcare, I can tell you that doctors aren't always swift in seeing and dealing with results; they can also get lost. Which is why the patient should always call for results if they don't hear anything within a week or so. Hell my own PCP missed my anemia, it was diagnosed when my hemoglobin got so low I felt dizzy...it does happen


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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 7:46:30 AM   
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I would suggest you go to your primary care physician and get a full work up to rule out kidney disease. Given your edema and pylemephritis, they could be symptoms of something more seroius. Or not. But I would want it ruled out if I were in your shoes.

5 urine samples and 5 times they did not test it or give you results ? Speaking just for me : it wouldn't have taken 5 times. If no one would give me an answer after the first sample, my ass would be in the Dr. office, demanding my test results.


As someone who works in Healthcare, I can tell you that doctors aren't always swift in seeing and dealing with results; they can also get lost. Which is why the patient should always call for results if they don't hear anything within a week or so. Hell my own PCP missed my anemia, it was diagnosed when my hemoglobin got so low I felt dizzy...it does happen



Yep, I'm a nurse, I know these things happen. I am also a pretty aggressive < not physically > patient. People need to realise that they are not simply patients, but consumers. As such one should handle these type of things the same way they would any other service you purchase. If you suspected lead paint on your walls and had it tested you wouldn't accept 5 testings with no results. No different with your health needs. 
That is always my advice to family, friends and patients.
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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 9:19:17 AM   
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And I did explain how I got so fat, yup, I was trying to help my friends not get a zero, and I over ate,


I briefly feel the need to comment specifically on this situation. I know that, on another thread, you mentioned going back to the group-living situation in order to have the time and space to work through some other issues in your relationship life. I think that it is important to understand what brought you to where you are now, and that, by eating your friend's food, you were really hindering -both- your progress... people needed to know that your friend wasn't eating, and it's important for you to know that "helping" your friend this way isn't -help-... for either of you.

As far as everything else, with the diagnosis of osteoarthritis, you should have the benefit of being able to request physical therapy to help you with your exercise/mobility. I would take full advantage of that. My physical therapist is a sadist, yes, but using that tool has made it possible for me to regain some lost momentum on my mobility and my health. Your diagnosis may also allow you to have some additional mental health support specifically geared towards improving your outlook on your physical fitness and maintenance of your health (including some support to help you get healthy food, etc!). Again, I would take some time and investigate that. I had been worried, for a long time, about having to go it alone when dealing with my food and exercise issues, but there is a LOT of help out there if you're willing to ask the right questions and be gently persistent.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 9:21:34 AM   
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I don't understand either, why there were five urine samples over two months' time for a dipstick test.  The rapid dip for a UTI shows results in under 5 minutes.  If there is any question, the sample is then sent to the lab.  There is even a home test available to screen for UTIs.

It seems, TFTB, that your naivete in managing your own health and activities of daily living is quite detrimental to your quality of life.  And it appears that there is not a competent adult in your life to manage those.  Perhaps a place such as this could be helpful:  http://www.ril-sacramento.org/transitionalliving.html 

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/8/2009 10:00:08 AM   
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I don't understand either, why there were five urine samples over two months' time for a dipstick test.  The rapid dip for a UTI shows results in under 5 minutes.  If there is any question, the sample is then sent to the lab.  There is even a home test available to screen for UTIs.

It seems, TFTB, that your naivete in managing your own health and activities of daily living is quite detrimental to your quality of life.  And it appears that there is not a competent adult in your life to manage those.  Perhaps a place such as this could be helpful:  http://www.ril-sacramento.org/transitionalliving.html 

Cali






GREAT link! Thanks Cali!


OP: Check it out, and keep your spirits up. Loosing weight can be very difficult, but it doesn't have to be. And yes I do speak from experience, as one who has lost a lot of weight and kept it off. Its a great challenge, but it will empower you. As the weight comes off (if you are effectively managing your other physical and emotional challenges) you'll feel better and better! Its the part in the parenthesis, that you may need help with. When you have a multiple issues, they can be really hard to manage. Check out Cali's link, above. I think she's right, that you may need a lot more help than you are getting. Being able to admit when you need extra help, and being strong enough to avail yourself of it, shows great strength- not weakness.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/9/2009 8:05:55 AM   
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I love the water, this would be good.
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Water Aerobics is great for those with joint issues. they are usually available at the local YMCA. Memebership is based on income. So if you have little, your fees will be small.

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/11/2009 10:45:35 AM   
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Sounds like its time to chance the birth control to me. No one told me depo caused weight gain, i gained almost 100 lbs in two years, and thought it was due to me healthy living and being off of street drugs- wrong
Another thing to add, those hormones realy realy mess wih your mind and clear thinking, almost as much as the street drugs...
just something else to consider.
Ive been off of the depo for 5 years, lost all the wieght and am totaly clear headed- maybe too clear lol!
Good luck YHMA!

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/11/2009 8:01:47 PM   
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Thank you redwoodgirl:)


I can honestly say in my case, my eating is the problem, about weight gain and not depo, because before I started allowing myself to ask for so much junk I asked for I maintained weight no problem and was even loosing, but the moment I started allowing myself to have junk and even junk I had stopped eating for 2 plus years but now craved again, that I stopped loosing weight.

And of course yeah depo  does make others gain weight or act or feel looney,  so I am lucky, but I am ready to try something new, but It needs to be something you don't have to take in and put out, I don't want any chance of user error lol.


I've walked my not so little hiney all over the place last couple of days and I am slowly beginning to feel better about walking!

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Sounds like its time to chance the birth control to me. No one told me depo caused weight gain, i gained almost 100 lbs in two years, and thought it was due to me healthy living and being off of street drugs- wrong
Another thing to add, those hormones realy realy mess wih your mind and clear thinking, almost as much as the street drugs...
just something else to consider.
Ive been off of the depo for 5 years, lost all the wieght and am totaly clear headed- maybe too clear lol!
Good luck YHMA!

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/15/2009 5:46:38 PM   
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stevia in iced tea is a good substitute for sodas.


My substitute is putting carbonated water on a bed of crushed ice and then adding a bit of fruit juice for taste.  Low carb and all natural.



Cool, thanks for the tip, as i too am trying to lose weight around my middle (i blame that on eating too much cheese and dairy in general, and turning 32..). That sounds like a good alternative to all the sweet drinks i do like to indulge in :P i am 5 foot 2 with tiny bones,i was 108lbs at the beginning of '08, now i must be in the "late teens" in poundage....it's all gone to my middle :( So, i have cut down on the booze, and eat high-fibre cereal every day (Special K) and lots of fish and vegies and salad. Cream cheese dips, potato chips and "extra-extra-extra cheese mexican nachos" have gone out the window. Those sweet drinks can hold on pretty tight, tho' *lol*

Agreed, i am not as heavy as the OP, however, with my small frame, the gut-size increase has making me feel more tired and listless, not to mention the sore back in the mornings and after sitting in my office for long periods.......... All that dairy and gluten would do that too :P

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RE: The dr says my x rays are showing signs of wear and... - 11/17/2009 5:16:01 PM   
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Weight, genetics, depo: likely culprits.
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