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All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 8:14:14 AM

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I do love a slave who is real. I have nothing to hide, and I'd expect a slave to be the same. No lies, no secrets. Any sub or slave who isn't this , needs to rethink why they are going thru the motions

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 9:08:43 AM

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Keeping it real. Right on!

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 10:29:33 AM

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I think that most people will agree with you (myself included), and this is a great idea in theory. Unfortunately, in reality, people have secrets, that's just the way things are, there are things about me that are just between myself and the powers-that-be and I am sure it is the same for many, if not most, people. The other problem that occurs is that some individuals will ask others to bare their souls without doing the same in return. It's a two way street and there are many that do not realize that.

Sorry, I just have to play the devil's advocate in almost everything, I think it comes with being a law student

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 10:58:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: VetteMaster

I do love a slave who is real. I have nothing to hide, and I'd expect a slave to be the same. No lies, no secrets. Any sub or slave who isn't this , needs to rethink why they are going thru the motions

I don't understand why people lie, doesn’t make sense to me but i am looking for something real. I think the ones who are lying and just say what they think Y/you want to hear only want a internet fling. i am not into the internet cyber relationship, i can see if something starts that way but with potential of being more.

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Unfortunately, in reality, people have secrets, that are just the way things are, there are things about me that are just between myself and the powers-that-be and I am sure it is the same for many, if not most, people. The other problem that occurs is that some individuals will ask others to bare their souls without doing the same in return. It's a two way street and there are many that do not realize that.

ya W/we all have secrets but with a relationship as it grows Y/you need to share more and more of Y/your personal life with them. At first i may not share personal information or secrets but in time as Y/you get more comfortable and want a relationship Y/you have too and can't lie about them. Relationship built on lies never work…

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 11:23:46 AM

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I was not suggesting building a relationship on lies, that never works, only that not even my dom knows everything about me and he most likely never will. That's what makes a relationship interesting, finding out new things about a person just when you think you know them through and through.
Also, not all secrets are bad, some can be very good. For example, it's a secret how I learned some of the tricks that I use for pleasuring my dom, but you don't hear him complaining about it.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/1/2004 3:47:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: VetteMaster

I do love a slave who is real. I have nothing to hide, and I'd expect a slave to be the same. No lies, no secrets. Any sub or slave who isn't this , needs to rethink why they are going thru the motions

It's so hard to know who is real and who isn't. Eventually, the truth comes out but how much hurt is caused before it does? How many have read books and are looking for the fantasy but don't feel it deep inside? It's either there or it isn't...no matter how much you play or fantasize you have to be it or its just a game.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/4/2004 7:46:51 AM

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I do love a slave who is real.

Umm...do ya still like 'em a little bit, even?

Speaking from a more serious place, I would have to say, that you are preaching to the choir here. The only thing I tend to remember when I read the kinds of posts like your one here, is, that people that are claiming hard about how real they are, either have something to prove, or are "fake" themselves.

Since I have stopped being paranoid about real people on the net, I have noticed that everyone I have met online (Doms/subs alike) has been nothing but pure gold to me. I take that as a good indicator that I was creating the phoneys myself, by creating and drawing that universal energy to myself by thinking about it so much.

I hope you have wonderful luck finding whatever it is out there that you are looking for.

have a great day,

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/4/2004 8:45:19 AM

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Since I have stopped being paranoid about real people on the net, I have noticed that everyone I have met online (Doms/subs alike) has been nothing but pure gold to me.

I have met at least 25 online friends, most from my game site, and all have been exactly as they claimed, very real and nice people. Maybe it's different from a site like this or maybe i just got lucky.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/4/2004 7:47:51 PM

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I take that as a good indicator that I was creating the phoneys myself, by creating and drawing that universal energy to myself by thinking about it so much.

That's one hell of an observation, Pixie!

I don't even REMEMBER what year I first went online; I know it was all BBS', and I've seen it come up time and again, "You're not like that in r/l." "You can hide behind a monitor." etc. -- this is something I'm still vaguely defensive about, myself, because I run a web site that's very speak-your-mind and I draw a lot of criticism there as a user.

Long ago, I spent some time exploring alter egos and I have to admit, unless you just really get off on that kind of deception (and obviously, some people will), it's not worth the investment of time required to create an effective persona.

Just getting to the point where people recognize and respond to you is itself a fair amount of work, and then to put forward enough personality to make yourself interesting is more work, still. But the nice thing about being online, as has been said so often, is that the very first thing you deal with is what someone thinks. And, as has been noted, if you run into a knob, you can simply turn them off.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/5/2004 12:15:12 AM

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I don't even REMEMBER what year I first went online; I know it was all BBS'...

Long ago, I spent some time exploring alter egos and I have to admit, unless you just really get off on that kind of deception (and obviously, some people will), it's not worth the investment of time required to create an effective persona.

That really brings back memories for me. I spent many hundreds of hours on BBSes between 1988 and 1991, and spent a lot of time running them. One, in 1990, was one of two in the San Francisco Bay Area which had both the code and the modem pool to allow for chatrooms (that was hard to do under DOS) -- it had between 8 and 24 phone lines at various times. Places like that, and administering Internet MUDs, taught me a lot about how deceptive some people could be.

There was "Annaliese," a male university student from Washington. "She" had at least 3 guys with mad crushes on her. Exchanged bogus pics, even exchanged gifts in the mail and such. It started off as a bet between said student and his girlfriend, who didn't think he could pull off impersonating a woman on the Internet. Was she ever wrong, he kept it up for 1.5-2 years that I know of.

Then there was "Melly," an extremely cute and somewhat kinky blonde with a really nice ass, who happened to be a bearded male grad student from UC Berkeley. By the time he got tired of playing her online, she had quite a few people who really liked her. He decided that the best way to get rid of her was to have her commit suicide by insulin overdose. Another of his female personae spread the word of her demise. A number of people were feeling really bad, and mourned her, never knowing that she was a complete fiction.

There were others, but I won't belabor it. I'd like to emphasize the "obviously, some people will" because as an administrator I saw plenty of it. 98% of people were pretty honest, but the 2% remaining included some real doozies. I doubt that there are many here like that, but I don't doubt that there are a few who are mostly knowledgeable and experienced kinksters in their own imaginations, some who misrepresent the details of their marital status, etc. Most people avoid lying, but Diogenes still had a point.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/5/2004 12:42:10 AM

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NoCal:

I completely agree. NOBODY should ever let their guard down completely. My sense is that the generalization works in the opposite direction, though, that some people tend to be more naturally mistrustful than is required in some cases. Anybody that just rushes into anything is going to get burned sooner or later.

And I do know what you mean; I had a girlfriend who wrote a D/s column on-line for a couple of years, in a very minimal capacity; I did the better part of the writing, myself.

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RE: All About Being Real - 9/5/2004 5:46:31 AM

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