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zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:48:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

and if women would gobble more cock, men would hold no interest in politics.

just sayin,

Ron


Interesting theory, Ron, want to test it out? *grins*




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:50:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

There is, however, a hierachy in politics and if men were angels we'd have no need for government.


If men were angels, they wouldn’t be men; therefore ineligible for the acquisition of liberty.

A little truth can go a long way.

As for politics, just another religion; man was not meant to be ‘kept’.

Kim



You missed the point.

Humans are not, at their nature, so perfect that we have no need for some sort of agency to keep rapists, child molesters, etc at bay from those who would be happy to live and let live.

Your "truth" is flawed.




mnottertail -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:50:11 PM)

I have said, and will say again, for god and country I will answer the call.

*bows*

Thankavuramutch




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:50:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I have said, and will say again, for god and country I will answer the call.


How very patriotic of you Ron lol




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:51:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

and if women would gobble more cock, men would hold no interest in politics.

just sayin,

Ron


Interesting theory, Ron, want to test it out? *grins*



Join our movement. I'm going to make buttons.




mnottertail -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:53:05 PM)

well, perhaps the religious right would join us and we would find commonality were the slogan to be:

Suck a dick for christ!!!!!




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:53:54 PM)

Count me in!!! Is it still patriotic even though I'm Canadian? I'm guessing the answer is yes




mnottertail -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:56:16 PM)

ein reich, ein volk, ein spasse!!!!!!!!!




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 1:56:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, perhaps the religious right would join us and we would find commonality were the slogan to be:

Suck a dick for christ!!!!!


That could work.....naaaaa maybe not




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:00:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, perhaps the religious right would join us and we would find commonality were the slogan to be:

Suck a dick for christ!!!!!


Mmm... we need to make it more diverse. "Suck dick for your deity(s)!"




XaviersXian -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:00:20 PM)

greetings to all,

This is just the president obeying Japanese custom.  One always bows to someone who is of superior station.  If I went to Japan, I would bow to everyone I meet, regardless of age, or station, purely because having been born and raised within the culture, those people are more knowledgeable than I am in things Japanese, and are my "elders and betters".

The depth of the bow (in the president's case, deeply) denotes how senior the other person is in relation to yourself.  For some people, a slight incline of the head and shoulders is sufficient, but for others (like in this case) one bows both head and shoulders to end up beneath the shoulder line and gaze of the other person.  The emperor is the "highest man in the land" and so bows to no one, because in his homeland, there is no one above him in rank.  If he were to go to the US, he would give the president a deep bow, because in the US, the president is above him in station.

Just .02 from a woman who has extensively studied Japanese etiquette and culture.

well wishes,




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:01:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Count me in!!! Is it still patriotic even though I'm Canadian? I'm guessing the answer is yes


It's for world peace so we need many divisions. You shall head our Canadian troops. [:D]




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:02:42 PM)

Interesting info. Thanks for posting!




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:03:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Count me in!!! Is it still patriotic even though I'm Canadian? I'm guessing the answer is yes


It's for world peace so we need many divisions. You shall head our Canadian troops. [:D]


Hey if it helps Canadian/US relations I'm willing to do my part.




housesub4you -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:04:49 PM)

Tell that to the Pope




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:09:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Count me in!!! Is it still patriotic even though I'm Canadian? I'm guessing the answer is yes


It's for world peace so we need many divisions. You shall head our Canadian troops. [:D]


Hey if it helps Canadian/US relations I'm willing to do my part.



Excellent. Now we just need to recruit.




cpK69 -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:19:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub


You missed the point.




No, I just have a different perspective on the situation.

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Humans are not, at their nature, so perfect that we have no need for some sort of agency to keep rapists, child molesters, etc at bay from those who would be happy to live and let live.


Slight understatement on the function of government as we know it; yes?

I am fairly confident enabling ourselves would be far better than relying on others to come to our rescue after the fact, since so few ‘criminals’ are caught before committing a crime.

I didn’t claim it would/could happen tomorrow.

Kim




AquaticSub -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 2:59:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
I am fairly confident enabling ourselves would be far better than relying on others to come to our rescue after the fact, since so few ‘criminals’ are caught before committing a crime.

I didn’t claim it would/could happen tomorrow.

Kim



The point is not that the criminals are caught beforehand. The point is that those who are stronger are not allowed to continue to abuse those who are weaker - which happens in a society with governing body to regulate and that there are punishments to deter those who would do harm to others if they could get away with it. People, while I believe most are good-natured at heart, are quite capable of hurting others on a grand scale and this will not magically go away over time or even in perfect conditions.




cpK69 -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 3:24:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

The point is not that the criminals are caught beforehand. those who are weaker - which happens in a society with governing body to regulate and that there are punishments to deter those who would do harm to others if they could get away with it.


I don't think that is working too well.

Kim




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Mr. President, quit bowing to royals!!! (11/15/2009 3:28:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

If Obama bowed to an American or anyone from any other culture where it was considered a submissive act, I'd be furious.  But to an Asian, where bowing takes the place of handshakes...

I have to admit that I'm still kinda squicked by Bush holding hands and kissing the Saudi prince, though.  Guess I'm not that open minded.



Obama bowed to the Saudi prince also.




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