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Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 11/23/2009 2:19:16 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00A8-Vbyt3s&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rn-HM

Seems the US is up in arms again about a performance on TV... So it was a little over the top, but I can't see what the huge fuss is about. The performance was saved for last when most kids should be in bed. And besides, is that really what you want your kids watching anyhow if they are too young to be exposed to this? Otherwise it's a great opportunity to talk to them about sexuality.

The funny part to me is the gay bashing going on. I'm pretty sure i saw him interacting equally with women, who were generally more scandalously dressed and handled then the guys. So the guy hsa no clear boundaries. I'm thinking that is the scariest part for the shocked masses out there.

I say kudos to Adam for having the guts to do what female performers have done for years with no repercussions at all.

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 11/23/2009 2:22:15 PM

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I adore Adam Lambert and it is ridiculous for anyone to be up in arms about his performance. Everyone knows he is a dramatic performer.

I hope he continues to be scandalous for years to come.

(I guess there is a double standard when Lady GaGa performs!) :)

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 11/23/2009 8:19:48 PM

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sigh -- dick clark productions seems to have removed it from the web. and i missed it on the broadcast. but i love the song....

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/3/2009 4:53:17 PM

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And now he won't be on the NYE telecast either...

What they couldn't just agree to certain ground rules? Such immaturity by the suits in my opinion

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/3/2009 5:03:21 PM

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They are just intimidated by Adam. He is so hot (to both sexes) and so talented, so people like to rag on his performance. I downloaded his new CD and it is great; it was even a bit "quieter" than I thought Adam would do. LOVE that man!! (even though I am the wrong sex for him, I am sure he would appreciate my style. :)

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/3/2009 11:08:17 PM

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 2:56:28 AM

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A line from a Nine Inch Nails song pops into my head when it comes to how people react over situations like this.

"well they've got to hate what they fear"

Seems fitting. In my opinion, people who get outraged over a performance like that one, or anything that has a gay overtone are scared. They don't understand it and are afraid that if they go against the consesus then people may think that they are either in the closet or are gay friendly. Does that make sense?

I just think most people would rather hate or fear something they don't understand

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 3:43:16 AM

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I cannot believe all this fuss is over his kissing another man. Honestly I would have thought we would be beyond that but I guess not.

As for kiddies having seen it, from what I understand it was almost 11pm when he performed, what the hell were small kidlets doing up and watching tv at that hour? Even if they were, I doubt they would be traumatized unless they saw a negative reaction from their parents.

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 7:35:08 AM

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I cannot believe all this fuss is over his kissing another man. Honestly I would have thought we would be beyond that but I guess not.

As for kiddies having seen it, from what I understand it was almost 11pm when he performed, what the hell were small kidlets doing up and watching tv at that hour? Even if they were, I doubt they would be traumatized unless they saw a negative reaction from their parents.

Honestly, I think using the "kiddie excuse" is grasping at straws. As Adam Lambert himself said in the interview, earlier performances with Janet Jackson grabbing a male dancer's crotch and Lady Gaga's performance involving liquor bottles have met with no comments at all. When Brittany Spears and Madonna shared the full on open mouthed kiss, there was a little uproar, but no blurring it out. When you think about it, while it is not on every television show, there have certainly been plenty of gay characters shown on television, both in daytime soaps and on prime time shows. They have been shown kissing, and if I'm not mistaken even shown naked in bed together. So what makes Lambert's performance so shocking?

Perhaps because he refuses to apologize for who he is presents a bigger problem. Years ago, although I don't recall any blatently sexual acts with the people on stage with them, David Bowie and Ziggy Stardust certainly presented images that were "out there" for their time.

I think Adam Lambert is an extremely talented performer and look forward to seeing him for years to come. Perhaps some are worried because he may be able to not only outsing many of his male counterparts, but a good number of the women as well?

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 7:46:02 AM

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I think you might be overlooking the big one here, the FCC slamming the stations with another huge fine for indecency. I am willing to bet that played a huge part in the drama. And it wasn't only a kiss, the simulated oral sex head grabbing crotch thrusting was just for shock value. The emporer has no clothes methinks. When you are brand new out of the gate and have to resort to shock value tactics on an awards show, I wonder why...?

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 8:38:08 AM

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I think you might be overlooking the big one here, the FCC slamming the stations with another huge fine for indecency. I am willing to bet that played a huge part in the drama. And it wasn't only a kiss, the simulated oral sex head grabbing crotch thrusting was just for shock value. The emporer has no clothes methinks. When you are brand new out of the gate and have to resort to shock value tactics on an awards show, I wonder why...?

You are right, I completely forgot the FCC issues. But I still find it interesting that the FCC didn't have any such problems with the Madonna/Brittany kiss. Madonna has often offended with her performances and their blatent out there sexuality. I don't believe that Lambert did things simply for shock value, although I do think that being "brand new, out of the gate" he could have been a bit more reserved. Obviously, you don't care for him, which is all fine and good, but sometimes performers do get caught up in the moment and do things unscripted and unchoreographed.

Yes, now that "Idol" is over, Adam Lambert is very up front about who he is, a out of the closet gay male. He doesn't apologize for it, nor should he. His point that gay male performers are less accepted in the mainstream than lesbians is a true one.

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 9:04:40 AM

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Ya know, I may just be out of touch here and/or not watching the ~correct~ news reports. But Im seeing a lot of Lambert doing interview after interview after interview hyping that 'people are complaining about me'. But I dont see much of the actually complaining going on.

There was no doubt to me at all that this was just a publicity stunt. Do something outlandish and over the top in order to generate controversy, the public at large will wonder what all the controversy is about, and they will all go buy the new album. However, I dont see the 'other side' screaming and yelling as much as I see Lamberts own publicist standing up on a soapbox and shouting 'Hey! Look at us! People hate us! We are getting a lot of people mad at us!'.

ABC itself said that getting only 1500 complaints out of a viewership of several million was a moderate response. It wasn't until Lambert himself pointed to that <0.1% and claimed it was a HUGE controversy that ABC decided to jump on the bandwagon and milk the ~controversy~ for all its worth.

Maybe there are roaming hoards of millions of 'family values' fanatics roaming the streets with pitchforks and torches demanding Lambers head and Im just missing it. But from where I am all Im seeing is Lambert trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 9:26:42 AM

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Hi LafayetteLady,

No it's not that I don't care for him, truth be told I have never ever seen Idol and I only knew about this controversy from the segment on MSNBC so I watched it on youtube.

. I am an AC/DC, Zeppelin, headbanger kind of chick though so not a lot of that to keep me entertained on Idol.

I just think that he was relying more on the publicity from the stunt and shockvalue more than he was relying on his talent, which though not my taste, I can obviously see he has some. It isn't just Lambert, I see that a lot with younger stars, and it only serves to distract from their talents in my opinion. Save that for when you actually become a little more cememented in your fame and can actually afford a scandalous performance moment, not when you have to be googled to find out who the hell you are to a lot of people. Although, this being puritanical America, I absolutely agree because it was a man and not a hot chick, the outrage was way worse. We do love our hypocrisy here.

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/4/2009 10:08:03 AM

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that performance was TAME compared to the 1995 VH1 Fashion Awards where Prince opened the show in a red Versace suit singing the extremely explicit "Pussy Control"...or the 1991 MTV awards where Prince and the New Power Generation perfomed "Gett Off".

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/5/2009 8:59:53 PM

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As far as he and his publicist being the ones making something out of this, I actually first started paying attention to this after i read an article that allowed comments after and the comments themselves were seriously intolerant and ridiculous. The shows that have now cancelled his interviews and appearances cite their "fear" that he will do something else unscripted. The majority of these shows pre-tape or act on a delay, just like radio. If they were paying attention they could quash that without it ever being shown. Blurring the male kiss is silly when it has been shown on many regular programs now without there being any fines given out. The other sexual aspects were more out there to me and were with men and women. Sigh... Feels like sexuality is never really going to be accepted

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/5/2009 10:36:09 PM

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I read an article today about more shows cancelling appearances with him. The thing that it mentioned most interesting is that the FCC DOES NOT regulate programming after 10pm. It does however, regulate programming at 2pm when, particularly on ABC, "One Life to Live" is currently doing a homosexual love triangle.

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So while yes, Lambert is getting publicity for what occured, I still agree with the article that there is a great double standard at play here. Let's also not forget that "no publicity is bad publicity"

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RE: Adam Lambert - AMA performance - 12/6/2009 6:36:18 AM

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