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breatheasone -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:28:05 PM)

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Heck, most of the cursing I hear in public, esp the grocery store for some reason, is coming FROM the kids!

Yeah right-on, but i refuse to sink to their LEVEL! LM*O![sm=lol.gif]



GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:32:03 PM)

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ever since retiring from teaching I can't fukkin stop..
You know the Calamity Jane character in Deadwood,,??
yep that me..
 
GM



ShoreBound149 -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:33:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

ShoreBound, thank you for answering. Can i ask do you think it is more acceptable for younger generations? Gosh, i never thought i end up an old lady with a cursing problem? If my friends could see me now they would say what happen to you? Just curious:)

Age has no bearing on my view of cursing acceptability.  I curse all day long.  I have since I was a kid.   So did my friends.  So did the adult men around me....... when there were no women around.



DemonKia -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:34:11 PM)

Well, hell!! You mean I shouldn't use swears when I talk about cunts getting fucked with big dicks? How can we discuss fellatio without using 'cocksucker'? God-damn!?

Here I thought this was an adult message board discussing topics sexual & kinkified, & yet curse words do seem to trip some people 'round these 'bouts.

*'plexed, scratching head*

Talk fecophagia, but don't say 'shit'. Talk watersports, but don't say 'piss' (it's one of the forbidden words, really). & all you ladies better start calling those your bosoms, cuz 'tits' is also a forbidden FCC word .. .. .

& my grama tried that swearing-is-a-sign-of-a-limited-vocabulary thing on me, hehehehe . . .. Wow, imagine this -- I both swear (quite a bit) & have a large, powerful, evocative vocabulary . . .. . .

Check this thought out: if I stick to my $5 word vocabulary, people think I'm snotty, elitist, stuck up, that kinda thing. If I pepper my $5 word vocab with swears, slang, & other more informal kinds of linguistic tricks, it softens that impression & people are able to relate to me more easily . ... . I've tested this many times over the last 3 decades, I feel pretty confident about how this works. Plus, I usually get the vocab fetishists all worked up with my command of the $5 words. Motherfuck, I can spell most of those expensive words on the spur of the moment . . . . . lol

& which words, exactly, are the swears? My grama considers all of these to be naughty words: 'piss', 'tits', 'damn', 'bitch', 'hell' . . . . The FCC allows 'bitch' & 'hell' but not 'fag' or 'faggot' & my grama uses that one (that's right, no swears but homophobia's just fine by her) . . . . . I'm never sure where these lists end . . . . . .

& none of that has anything to do with the fact that I am a polite, well-behaved person who is socially sought after, nor does it change the fact that I tend to end up with equally polite, well-behaved partners. Tho', frequently, they swear too . .. . . .



wisdomtogive -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:34:13 PM)

Thanks to everyone. My curiosity just gets going at times. I know people with M.A that swear a blue streak. It has nothing to do with education imo. I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks, and dated a lot of ex cons, and could out cuss any of them, and made some turn blue. But i guess something in me changed. Yes, late hubby not tolerating it. Then after his death, the need never came back, and is still a no no with the Doms i been with. No biggie since i don't care for it. Still think it's a generation thing..i dont know. A lot of things i did in the 60's and 70's just arent part of who i am any mroe i am.

Thanks for answering everyone, and i am still reading. As i said i didnt post to step on toes, but to understand why this bugs me. when something bugs me i rather put out in the light and look at it. Not that i would start cussing again, but wondered why it irritated me. If nothing else i can understand why late hubby and those i been with since his death and Sir David find it not pleasing.



Sfortzando -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:45:55 PM)

My feeling re: cursing is don't use it in front of small children, don't use it in front of your or your SO's parents, don't use it in church.

[8|]

Think we're pretty safe on the message boards.

I do think that people over use curses like fuck, shit, or asshole too often, though. My guess is they feel it adds validity to their statements, when all it usually adds is cudeness. However, sometimes 'fuck' or 'shit' are the exactly correct words for the job and, in certain circumstances, are perfectly acceptable.

I feel this way about using vulgarity in general, so I'm having a difficult time understanding what it has to do with D/s in specific.



breatheasone -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:52:37 PM)

i think it has to be along the lines of  what grates your nerves, and what doesn't. There are people i know that cuss WORSE than me...and yet flip out at the word cunt LOL. i know people that wouldn't say shit, if it landed on their head, and yet, talk about male, and female genitalia using the words, cock and pussy, and even cunt LOL !  ....Then there are folks that find whole "genres" of language distasteful.....

Perhaps its like music preferences....i love pretty much all types of music, except jazz....i just can't stand jazz LOL(no offense honest!)



LadyPact -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 6:55:22 PM)

Would it bother you as a Dom. to have your s-type cursing on these boards?
Why and why not? 
No, it wouldn't.  It's rare for clip to curse.  To tell you the truth, if he's done it here, I honestly don't remember it.  If he did, it wouldn't phase Me and I would know that he was very succinct in what he said.

Does it bother you if they do out in the street? In a club?
No, because he doesn't curse around children at all.  If he's surrounded by adults, I think they can handle it.

What is your opinion on how you expect your s-type to present themselves verbally? 
Mine is actually better verbally than with the written word.  That has to do with a combination of a lack of spell check on his program and a splash of the ADHD thrown in.

Would it bother you if your s-type went to a mumch without you, and another Dom reported to you later in the day, you best control your s-type mouth. Her cursing makes you look as if........?
Mine does go to munches without Me due to his requirement to be in other locations.  I have never had an issue with his behavior in regard to reports that came back to Me.  There have been problems with a couple of Dommes who didn't have any sense to know that he was collared, but that's another subject.

Or perhaps it doesn't bother you at all?
No, it really doesn't.  I'd say he knows the appropriate uses for his mouth.


I'm going to take this over from My own opinion on the matter.

Yes, I curse.  I tend to do it more verbally, than when writing here on the boards.  I'm not perfect about it.  Off of the top of My head, here are some things that I've written here:

"I've met some damn fine people in the lifestyle."

"In almost three years on these boards, I've never had to say 'fuck you' to anyone."

"Yes, I have had great experiences introducing males to sucking cock."


Those are all direct quotes of things that I've written here.  All of them are completely within context, so if they are offensive, I'm afraid it might be a case of oversensitivity.


Edited to add, I can promise you that cursing is absolutely a part of certain humiliation/role play/interrogation scenes that I've done.  I find it to be very effective in getting a bottom into certain frames of mind.



Level -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 7:12:21 PM)

I swear a lot. Try not to do it if I know I'm going to offend someone, but the fact that it is pretty much universally accepted here at CM means that pretty much anything is going to pop out of my mouth here.

Swearing isn't "wrong". Take the "s" word. Means the same thing as "poo", "poop", or "defecate". Some guy, some joe blow somewhere far back down the line, for whatever reason, decided that one was acceptable, and "s" was not. Complete and utter lack of logic, I'd say.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 7:23:44 PM)

this slave isn't allowed to curse at the dinner table.
 
other than that...He hasn't ordered her not to.
 
a long time ago, cursing got this slave slapped across the face...and not in a good way.



AquaticSub -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 7:54:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

The following questions are asked because I am really perplexed by the common usage of curse words on this board. I do hope I worded my self without offending anyone, but I doubt it.

My personal bend on cursing is not to do it. I use to talk like a truck driver and when late hubby and i moved in with each other, he threw a dictionary in front of me and said..educate yourself  if you plan to be with me.

I have never agreed with the idea that cursing = ignorant. When I was a teen, I did a short stint with a newspaper and the woman training me taught me to use the phrases that feel most effective in convaying the intended idea and gave cursing as an example.

I think people use this as a way to insult a practice that they don't happen to agree with. While they have every right to not agree, it's equally ignorant to assume that, because someone curses, they are somehow inferior or uneducated.
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A million light years from that moment, i have learned to not curse especially in using the F..word. I do find how it is used at times very disrespectful.

Whereas I find the dictionary thing very disrespectful. Different strokes.
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Perhaps because i am of an older generation..but wait a minute, we were the people that could roll those words around so politically correct back in the 60's, so that is not it. I just find it being used as an adjective to someone's name very tactless. With that being said I do have some questions, if anyone would like to answer.
Would it bother you as a Dom. to have your s-type cursing on these boards?

Valyraen evidently doesn't give a flying fuck. [;)]
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Why and why not?

I asked him. He says he going to reply on his. Personally, I just don't care and if someone does care they have every right to. But then they shouldn't be with me cause I've made a sailor blush.
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Does it bother you if they do out in the street? In a club?

It's never bothered him.
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What is your opinion on how you expect your s-type to present themselves verbally? 

While he is going to post - he's always expected me present myself as me. To simply be me. Smart, funny, spunky, a fire eater and wanting to balence what I think and my respect for others. I make an effort not to curse in front of children because I respect that their parents don't want them to hear it the same way I make an effort not to go into my personal beliefs regarding religion.
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Would it bother you if your s-type went to a mumch without you, and another Dom reported to you later in the day, you best control your s-type mouth. Her cursing makes you look as if........?

Valyraen would laugh his ass off and ask them why they felt they needed to tattle to him. If they have a problem with me, they can take it up with me. So fair, he's never been with me to a munch and my cursing has yet to cause someone to go running to him. While someone might be thinking badly of him, we pretty much just get the "Dude you are so lucky to have her" response whenever anything like that does come up.
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Or perhaps it doesn't bother you at all?
That is why i am asking to find out a perspective on this.

For the s-types
Would you swear at a club, out in public with your Dom?

Every damn day.
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If you do not why would you on the message boards?
Do you find that it is easier to be lax on here, then when serving your Dom in public?

Nope. I think here it's harder cause there are hundreds of people perfectly happy to jump down my throat in the comfort of cyberspace.
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What are your views on how you present your self in regards to cursing and how others would think of your Dom.

I think if they think badly of him because I curse while we have a happy, healthy and loving dynamic, their priorities are seriously screwed up.
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I have to admit i am startled with the cursing and swinging of these words at people or used as adjectives for a person. Plus coming from a free spirited mind and generation, i am amazed that i am bothered. Maybe age does have something to do with it. In my world it is not used everyday. It is not used as a common word.

I am sure i might have stepped on some toes, but please do believe me i am curious to the why's. It can't be a generation thing, my daughter doesn't swear as much as i seen on these boards. So in my perplexitiy I ask for some understanding, and forgiveness on my spelling.


It might just bother you. That's not really a big deal. There are certain things that just bother me and I can't figure out the particular reason. As long as you respect that other people feel differently... Live and let live. [:)]



Missokyst -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 7:57:15 PM)

I dont use cuss words. And the F word is only used when I am begging to be Fucked. I never understood why a word that denotes extreme pleasure would ever be considered a curse.




Valyraen -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 7:59:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

Would it bother you as a Dom. to have your s-type cursing on these boards?
Why and why not? 
Does it bother you if they do out in the street? In a club?
What is your opinion on how you expect your s-type to present themselves verbally? 

Would it bother you if your s-type went to a mumch without you, and another Dom reported to you later in the day, you best control your s-type mouth. Her cursing makes you look as if........?
Or perhaps it doesn't bother you at all?
That is why i am asking to find out a perspective on this.



While I could be witty here and reply in the form of cursing, I'm going to sidestep that particular temptation and address the questions seriously (yes, I can be serious sometimes).

Does it bother me that Aqua curses on the boards? No, no moreso than it bothers me that she curses in physical interaction - which is to say, not at all. I don't attach a stigma to the words themselves, simply because they're just words. In the right context, I can do as much or more damage with a perfectly commonplace selection as with any permutation of the commonly accepted English curses. They're just words, and it's only the meaning that we've attached to them that gives them any significance - and yes, I realize that my English major's showing.

Would it bother me if another dominant told me how to handle my girl? Yes, because said individual's got no place in telling me how to run mine. I don't believe that someone's choice of words is any reflection on their level of intelligence - I've met brilliant folks to whom speaking is a big problem, and complete idiots who could spout high-falutin' vernacular all day and still not contribute anything useful to a conversation. The words are the vessel for the idea, nothing more - and yes, there's that pesky English major showing again. Can't keep the damn thing tied down.



AquaticSub -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:02:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Valyraen

While I could be witty here and reply in the form of cursing, I'm going to sidestep that particular temptation and address the questions seriously (yes, I can be serious sometimes).

*snips*

Can't keep the damn thing tied down.



I wanted to poke fun at this but Sir wouldn't let me.

Evil bastard.



WyldHrt -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:10:52 PM)

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I have never agreed with the idea that cursing = ignorant. When I was a teen, I did a short stint with a newspaper and the woman training me taught me to use the phrases that feel most effective in convaying the intended idea and gave cursing as an example.

For me, it depends. While I certainly don't think cursing=ignorant, someone who can't communicate at all without using "fuck" 3 times per sentence gets a bit of a "hairy eyeball". Of course, I give the same look to folks that use the word "like" as punctuation when they are speaking. Some things just irritate, for whatever reason. You, like, know what I mean? [:D]



AquaticSub -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:14:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

For me, it depends. While I certainly don't think cursing=ignorant, someone who can't communicate at all without using "fuck" 3 times per sentence gets a bit of a "hairy eyeball". Of course, I give the same look to folks that use the word "like" as punctuation when they are speaking. Some things just irritate, for whatever reason. You, like, know what I mean? [:D]



I do that because of my stutter. It buys me time to find another word. Perhaps people don't take into consideration that some of us have speech impediments that make it difficult for us to converse as easily. When I speak in person, I tend to use short, easy to say words because I die of embaressment every time I can't get the word out. "Fuck" is easy and something I never stutter over, which may been a reason I continue to use it.

Or maybe I'm just a naughty monkey. Both work for me... [;)]



WyldHrt -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:18:18 PM)

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Or maybe I'm just a naughty monkey. Both work for me... [;)]

I vote for naughty monkey [;)]



breatheasone -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:19:41 PM)

Aqua said something that caught my attention when answering this part of the OP

"Would it bother you if your s-type went to a mumch without you, and another Dom reported to you later in the day, you best control your s-type mouth. Her cursing makes you look as if........?"

She said Valyraen would laugh and ask why they were tattling. It occurred to me that if a person on either side of the kneel approached my Master about me, He would listen until He heard these words that i highlighted in red. That phrase would end the discussion. 



Valyraen -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:20:12 PM)

Definitely naughty monkey. Will NOT provide details on request.



AquaticSub -> RE: Re: cursing (12/11/2009 8:21:28 PM)

Can the naughty monkey get spanked now Sir? [:D][:D][:D]



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