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lusciouslips19 -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:12:06 PM)

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my threads were meant to elicit responses not elucidate others on my positions, i have made posts that did convey my positions but they were ignored


What i dont get is you say you posted to elicit responses. You elicited responses but your whining about the responses that were eliccited. It was cause and effect. You got what you wanted. Why complain? Why whine? Why act like an injured party?

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ive seldom seen a pack attack ive been subjected to here


Again, you elicited the response and then complain about the response? Perhaps you should post in a manner that asks submissives valid questions and not just look to as you say,"stir the pot".

So you stir the pot and then complain about the mix?
Its simple, you get what you give.




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:12:27 PM)

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osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:15:57 PM)

when is the exercise of speech punishable

adults discuss/debate speech, or so i thought




lusciouslips19 -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:18:56 PM)

Well its true. People do debate. But when you make blanket statements there is nothing to debate.




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:20:40 PM)

i have tried to make my statements as factual as i could

a response to a criticism is not the same as whining

and i dont believe i gave you anything personally

most all my comments were of a general nature not directed at anybody




Lockit -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:21:06 PM)

Psychonaut, I might have considered discussing things with you but you lost me on the white knighting comment. There isn't a thing we will agree on here and I don't feel like arguing with you over something like this. It really doesn't matter enough to me to do so.

If you can align yourself in defense of things osf has said to women around here.. his insults and such and justify them and basically say we women have no right to respond in any way we wish... so be it... you have made your stand. I will stand on the fact that this is a message board and we can say what we wish to say as long as it isn't against TOS and you can decipher that any way you wish.

If you see me as passive aggressive... so be it. It's all good.

You are very passionate in how you feel about this, just as we women have been about what osf has said and insinuated. It's all good. You want to argue with me... I will decline.




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:24:14 PM)

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If you can align yourself in defense of things osf has said to women around here.. his insults and such and justify them and basically say we women have no right to respond in any way we wish... so be it... you have made your stand. I will stand on the fact that this is a message board and we can say what we wish to say as long as it isn't against TOS and you can decipher that any way you wish.


show me any thing i said toward anyone that i initiated and was not in response to what was directed at me




Lockit -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:26:33 PM)

That too would take far more time that I wish to commit to it osf. Many have seen your words, wording, enticement of humiliation and all sorts of things and I don't think it is needed or productive for me to go through all your many threads to find them all. You feel justified in all you say... as do we I believe.




NihilusZero -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:27:20 PM)

My fascination with the ping-ponging here ( with both sides making interesting points) aside:

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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Oh the irony.


Why does no one ever use that word correctly?

Actually, it is often used correctly most of the times that people claim it isn't being used correctly. When the term is not being used in a literary sense, it need only be an indication of an incongruence of points.




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:29:06 PM)

your willing to take the time to say i have but not willing to take the time to document your accusations

gee thats a win win for you




Lockit -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:31:07 PM)

Not really. I don't see it as a win, win for me. I would like nothing more than to do many, many quotes to show every time you were insulting or slam dunking someone. I just do not care to spend my time tonight with all I have done today and still need to do, copying your many threads, here.




Elisabella -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:31:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

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If you can align yourself in defense of things osf has said to women around here.. his insults and such and justify them and basically say we women have no right to respond in any way we wish... so be it... you have made your stand. I will stand on the fact that this is a message board and we can say what we wish to say as long as it isn't against TOS and you can decipher that any way you wish.


show me any thing i said toward anyone that i initiated and was not in response to what was directed at me


The part where you said you hated women so naturally you wanted one to abuse is the first that comes to mind.




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:32:45 PM)

your just full of fairness




Lockit -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:34:26 PM)

It goes well with my red hair and freckles.




Elisabella -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:34:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

your just full of fairness


Seriously dude. You're. Not your.

How many times do I have to tell you this?




NihilusZero -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:36:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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Also by participating in a forum a person gives tacit consent to many things including other people replying to their words.


That's a dodge.  There is no such thing as tacit consent, and I wouldn't run around trying to convince admitted sadists that such a thing exists.  Claims of tacit consent are made by people who have done wrong to another without their express consent and are now trying to backpedal.

Maybe, but for the purposes of reductionism it doesn't work that way in practice. Verbal 'battery' is a matter of perception and can't be morally supported across the board with any logical foundation.

And the only community-specific ethical structure pertinent in cases like this are the ToS of the website containing the events.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

Neither of which actually address the point.  You're right, people won't always agree and won't always be nice.  Some people are assholes.  What's going on here is that first Lockit and now you are trying to defend behavior that makes one an asshole while denying that you are, in fact, assholes.  Which is what makes you both passive-aggressive bitches.  See how that works?

I'm thinking you're approaching this from an analysis of the web-clique-mob phenomenon. Purely on that level, I'd be inclined to agree. Although I think each situation presents different elements or reasonings for what can appear to be said phenomenon.

I suppose what would dinstinguish the situation is a retroactive assessment of whether osf's cumulative contributions to the fora merit (to some sensibility) the reactions he receives.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:36:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: osf

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If you can align yourself in defense of things osf has said to women around here.. his insults and such and justify them and basically say we women have no right to respond in any way we wish... so be it... you have made your stand. I will stand on the fact that this is a message board and we can say what we wish to say as long as it isn't against TOS and you can decipher that any way you wish.


show me any thing i said toward anyone that i initiated and was not in response to what was directed at me


The part where you said you hated women so naturally you wanted one to abuse is the first that comes to mind.


mmmmmyeah and the one about wanting to jump a woman in an alley and attack her *waves to Bella*




osf -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:37:15 PM)

not knowing me you dont understand my sense of humor so ill let that stand as #1 i did say that, but then it wasnt directed at anyone in particular if you can discount the whole female sex

also this is supposed to be an adult forum for those with less than socially acceptable sexual proclivities as such id say my statements are rather mild compared to what one is likely to find on collar me

and ive read many female profiles that stress a preference for being unloved and abused




Elisabella -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:38:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

mmmmmyeah and the one about wanting to jump a woman in an alley and attack her *waves to Bella*



Oooh I missed that one.

See how useful community efforts can be?

*waves back*
:D




NihilusZero -> RE: dangerous men (12/19/2009 8:42:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

So you stir the pot and then complain about the mix?
Its simple, you get what you give.

Well, not entirely. I haven't followed up on the osf saga, but there's a notable difference between finding someone's posts vapid and demeaning the posts and finding someone's posts vapid and demeaning them.

If he's been subjected to the latter, then it would be a concern.




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